Is the party over?

[Dalit]

Noonies have gathered...

 

[BATMAN]

What makes you think that a dictator, sharif or bhutto, or any other similar creature, can make progress happen without any foundations?

Please stop calling general lead rule as dictatorship.
Imran Khan has proved to be worst dictator in history of Pakistan, while Pervez Musharraf brought about revolution of freedom of speech to Pakistan, hence proved to be a democrat.

and If you only knew about the construction projects undertaken by Sharif, you would not equate him with Zardari and Imran Khan.

 

[Baghial]

Let us see what happens.

,, army never forgets, nor forgives, ,,,witches or aalims ,wont be of any use now,

guess, people will realise nawaz was right!

 

[VCheng]

,, army never forgets, nor forgives, ,,,witches or aalims ,wont be of any use now,

guess, people will realise nawaz was right!

People can realize anything all they want. It is what is decided that matters only to those who make the decisions.

Please stop calling general lead rule as dictatorship.

And call it what? As if changing the name will make it something other than what it is in reality.

 

[Baghial]

Please stop calling general lead rule as dictatorship.
Imran Khan has proved to be worst dictator in history of Pakistan, while Pervez Musharraf brought about revolution of freedom of speech to Pakistan, hence proved to be a democrat.

and If you only knew about the construction projects undertaken by Sharif, you would not equate him with Zardari and Imran Khan.

in 1990, kissinger,/ sahibzada yaqub khan were dining with goldsmith,
and gold smith asked kissinger to take good care of his boy,

yaqub asked which boy are u talking about
goldsmith said imran..........

the seed of evil was sown long ago,

the traitors of kashmir,........

People can realize anything all they want. It is what is decided that matters only to those who make the decisions.



And called it what? As if changing the name will make it something other than what it is in reality.

call them,
baaz-wala,s

 

[Jungibaaz]

So what benefit could possibly come from demanding a premature change of government?

Exactly, please see the above.

There is no benefit to removing IK prematurely, it's just this whole 'one page' chapter reaching its inevitable conclusion. The army's experiments never last, frankenstein and his monster always end up falling out.

Who knows, maybe history repeats itself again and IK comes back to politics long-term and becomes a lot like the current opposition.

 

[BATMAN]

Is the party over?
Fahd HusainPublished October 16, 2021

The writer is Dawn’s resident editor in Islamabad.
POLITICS has gone into a tailspin and stakeholders could be heading back to the drawing board. Here are 10 key pointers:

1. The relationship between PTI and the establishment is under unprecedented strain ever since Prime Minister Imran Khan refused to notify Lt Gen Nadeem Ahmad Anjum as the new DG ISI as announced by the ISPR on Oct 6, 2021. The strain is getting more intense by the day as the disagreement slowly but menacingly morphs into a stand-off. It may get resolved sooner or later, but the damage appears to have been done.
2. The stand-off has also brought the army’s routine postings — announced on Oct 6 — to a standstill. This too may be unprecedented. Since the prime minister has not signed the notification for Lt Gen Nadeem Anjum to take charge as DG ISI, he has not relinquished charge as corps commander Karachi. Lt Gen Muhammad Saeed cannot therefore take charge as corps commander Karachi and Lt Gen Nauman Mahmood cannot relinquish charge as corps commander Peshawar to join as president National Defence University because Lt Gen Faiz Hameed cannot relinquish charge as DG ISI to take over as corps commander Peshawar. And round and round it goes for the others who received their posting orders 10 days ago. Things do not work like this in the army.
3. Confusion exists whether the PM Office has received the summary containing three names for the appointment as DG ISI. There is a strange silence from the government. On Wednesday, ministers had confirmed the summary had been received and TV channels as well as newspapers ran the story. Military sources later denied the summary had been sent. In yet another unprecedented move, the names and photos of the three lieutenant generals supposedly presented for selection in the summary were flashed across TV screens. This made many within the establishment very uncomfortable. Now the PM wants to meet all three candidates so he can reject two three-star generals. This too is making many in the institution very uncomfortable.
4. PTI ministers, parliamentarians and party members are in a daze. Their political compass seems to have gone all wonky and true north is becoming impossible to navigate. They suddenly find themselves in ‘Nawaz Sharif territory’ in reference to tension with the establishment and this is as alien to them as landing on Mars. The situation has all the hallmarks of situations past when governments started their slide. “Is this the beginning of the end?” asked a PTI senator this week. He may have been reflecting the fears of a majority of his colleagues.
5. Things were building up. Sources have confirmed that it was back in July this year that army chief Gen Qamar Bajwa had asked Prime Minister Imran Khan that he needed to make transfers and postings and Lt Gen Faiz Hameed would have to move out of the ISI as a routine. The PM had deferred the decision. The army chief raised the topic again in August and September and both times the PM said he would discuss the issue soon. In October, Gen Bajwa told the PM he could not wait much longer as three lieutenant generals were retiring and he had to order the transfers. Matters subsequently escalated into the events of the last 10 days. The stand-off continues.
6. Till 10 days back, PTI was dreaming of a second five-year term. Now many in the party are concerned how they can hang on till the next elections. Their existential fears are based on the following: (a) their wafer-thin majority in the National Assembly is dependent on their allies MQM, GDA and PML-Q and if the allies ditch them the party for them might be over; (b) many among their own members are those who won as independents and will now be sniffing the wind, (c) a large number of PTI ticket holders are pro-establishment politicians and if they were forced to choose between the two sides, no one is in doubt which side they will opt for; (d) one establishment official recently remarked: “all we have to do is step back.”
7. This rupture was not supposed to happen so soon. Now that it has, the opposition has also gone back to the drawing board. PML-N is possibly drawing the following conclusion at this stage: (a) no change in the National Assembly or in the Punjab Assembly can happen without PML-N as per the numbers; (b) bringing down the PTI government in Islamabad is not a difficult task if the establishment steps back and withdraws its crucial support — more difficult is to agree on who or what replaces it; (c) PML-N will not like to be part of any set-up in the centre between now and elections in 2023, but it can support a new coalition if it means the ouster of PM Imran Khan; (d) This means PML-N can drive a hard bargain for this support but not such a hard one that it becomes a deal-breaker because if the present set-up is packed off, PML-N will be the biggest game in town — again.
8. PM Khan would also consider his options: (a) refuse to step back and insist he appoints the DG ISI on his terms thereby sending a signal that he is the boss — regardless of the cost; (b) escalate further and appoint someone other than the person already announced; (c) send everyone packing home and call early elections; (d) get ousted and conjure up an anti-establishment narrative
9. None of these are good options knowing that PTI is burdened with: (a) weak parliamentary numbers and acute dependency on unreliable allies and members; (b) poor governance performance; (c) political isolation as a result of divisive politics; (d) shortage of anti-establishment space on the political spectrum in the presence of Nawaz Sharif.
10. A PTI member remarked this week: “Perhaps Nawaz was right all along.” Irony died a painful death.

The writer is Dawn’s resident editor in Islamabad.
Twitter: @fahdhusain
Published in Dawn, October 16th, 2021

This guy Fahad Hussian, has totally ignored, how Imran Khan did not allowed PAF to hit Indian ammo dumps and fighter jets on 27th February, 2019.
Later Indian submarine launched from Chabahar port was also not permitted to target, as it risked to expose axis of evil against Pakistan.
Those who think Imran Khan is only an economic hitman, need to revisit how he lead Indian cold start doctrine from front.

 

[Baghial]

There is no benefit to removing IK prematurely, it's just this whole 'one page' chapter reaching its inevitable conclusion. The army's experiments never last, frankenstein and his monster always end up falling out.

Who knows, maybe history repeats itself again and IK comes back to politics long-term and becomes a lot like the current opposition.

dont expect anything before 2022, november...


after that u will be notified about janaza of youthia,s.( hitler did the same brain washing to his youth, as imran)

This guy Fahad Hussian, has totally ignored, how Imran Khan did not allowed PAF to hit Indian ammo dumps and fighter jets on 27th February, 2019.
Later Indian submarine launched from Chabahar port was also not permitted to target, as it risked to expose axis of evil against Pakistan.
Those who think Imran Khan is only an economic hitman, need to revisit how he lead Indian cold start doctrine from front.

i salut imran by making so many idiots ..........

 

[SaadH]

The sooner Niazi goes the better it is for Pakistan and it's people.

And whoever replaces Niazi will immediately open the gates of heaven and manna will rain down...right?

 

[VCheng]

There is no benefit to removing IK prematurely, it's just this whole 'one page' chapter reaching its inevitable conclusion. The army's experiments never last, frankenstein and his monster always end up falling out.

Who knows, maybe history repeats itself again and IK comes back to politics long-term and becomes a lot like the current opposition.

What can I say here except I told you so?

These are not "experiments" by the Army. These are exacting acts done purposefully to ensure no other viable institution ever gains a foothold, the Constitution be damned. Let us be clear on that first.

 

[Baghial]

And whoever replaces Niazi will immediately open the gates of heaven and manna will rain down...right?

guess what!, baaz- wala doctrine, is gone in toilet

 

[BATMAN]

And called it what? As if changing the name will make it something other than what it is in reality.

In reality Pervez Musharraf was a liberal and opposite to dictator.
While Imran Khan is a true dictator, who is dictating bureaucracy and state institutions to his personal wish, which he candidly term as his prerogative.
Do i need to list bureaucrats on record telling, IK wanted them to vindicate opposition, not necessarily PMLN but any pointing fingers? some key judges accuse Imran Khan for blackmailing using some adult videos and after they die mysteriously.
Do i need to remind about the recent NRO which he gave him self? which also reflect, he has seen his future in crystal ball.
If it's upto me, i will start with re-opening investigation of murder of Qadil Baloch and followed by 1000 more investigations, ranging from black mail, misuse of authority, corruption, conspiring with enemies of Pakistan, list is long.

 

[Baghial]

What can I say here except I told you so?

These are not "experiments" by the Army. These are exacting acts done purposefully to ensure no other viable institution ever gains a foothold, the Constitution be damned. Let us be clear on that first.

https://twitter.com/SHABAZGIL

 

[VCheng]

In reality Pervez Musharraf was a liberal and opposite to dictator.
While Imran Khan is a true dictator, who is dictating bureaucracy and state institutions to his personal wish, which he candidly term as his prerogative.
Do i need to list bureaucrats on record telling, IK wanted them to vindicate opposition, not necessarily PMLN but any pointing fingers?
Do i need to remind about the recent NRO which he gave him self? which also reflect, he has seen his future in crystal ball.

Gen Pervez Musharraf was a dictator. Imran Khan is the facade of a soft coup. Like it or not, that is the reality.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Dream on….

After a stark defeat in Afganistan dome “feel good” moments are generated for the dark satanic Imperialists!! Nothing to celebrate for their proxy traitors!!! Your days are getting over….