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Arabs hate each other more than any other nation. Each village hates the next. This collapse of humanity is fueling all the wars, civil wars, proxy wars in the Arab world.

It’s an observation when Syrian and Egyptians can’t stand each other, Gulf Arabs think they are superior to everyone especially Yemenis, Everyone hates Palestinians, Iraqis hate everyone else, Libyans/Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian/Egyptian North African Cold War, Qatar/KSA.

Unity and greatness for Arabs lies in Islam and seeing themselves as one component of a global nation, along with Turks, Pakistanis, Iranians, Africans, Malay/Indos etc.

Khilafat Rashidun and the Prophet’s family are the examples of the height of Arab nobility, virtue, and wisdom. Banu Umayya, Banu Abbas were usurpers and responsible for the decay and fall of Arab rule over Muslims.

See yourselves as Muslims firstly, shed your sectarianism and nationalistic diseases. Join together as one Ummah with the rest of us.

Maybe then Burma, CAR, Israel won’t have the audacity to murder and rape Muslims.
 
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Arabs hate each other more than any other nation. Each village hates the next. This collapse of humanity is fueling all the wars, civil wars, proxy wars in the Arab world.

It’s an observation when Syrian and Egyptians can’t stand each other, Gulf Arabs think they are superior to everyone especially Yemenis, Everyone hates Palestinians, Iraqis hate everyone else, Libyans/Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian/Egyptian North African Cold War, Qatar/KSA.

You're speaking on a level of 'hatred' that Arabs have for non-Arab neighbors as well, similarly the few Arab states that border non-Arab states such as Iraq and Syria. Iraq has similar 'hatred' for Iran and Turkey historically if going by your perspective.
 
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Arabs hate each other more than any other nation. Each village hates the next. This collapse of humanity is fueling all the wars, civil wars, proxy wars in the Arab world.

It’s an observation when Syrian and Egyptians can’t stand each other, Gulf Arabs think they are superior to everyone especially Yemenis, Everyone hates Palestinians, Iraqis hate everyone else, Libyans/Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian/Egyptian North African Cold War, Qatar/KSA.

Unity and greatness for Arabs lies in Islam and seeing themselves as one component of a global nation, along with Turks, Pakistanis, Iranians, Africans, Malay/Indos etc.

Khilafat Rashidun and the Prophet’s family are the examples of the height of Arab nobility, virtue, and wisdom. Banu Umayya, Banu Abbas were usurpers and responsible for the decay and fall of Arab rule over Muslims.

See yourselves as Muslims firstly, shed your sectarianism and nationalistic diseases. Join together as one Ummah with the rest of us.

Maybe then Burma, CAR, Israel won’t have the audacity to murder and rape Muslims.

By your logic every human being hates every other human being. What's your point? Arabs cannot take pride in their history (whether pre-Islamic or Islamic) but everyone else can.

Why are so many non-Arabs online butthurt if Arabs take pride in their glorious history (by all objective accounts just ask any serious historian if we have any reasons to be proud or not) or if we are "nationalistic" in the sense of wanting the best for our countries and the Arab world as a whole and as a region and wanting to see more mutually beneficial cooperation between Arab countries?

Does that exclude cordial ties with non-Arabs?:crazy: The answer is obviously no. Just look at a country like KSA that has cordial ties with every single Arab country outside of the Syria (Al-Assad regime) and Qatar currently and to a smaller degree.

This forum is a nationalistic Pakistani forum. Most here are nationalists. Do you see Arabs complaining or crying about this? I see Pakistanis talking about their history often here. Do you see Arabs having a problem with this? Not at all.

Insulting Arabs is a Swedish buffet but Arabs cannot reply to the insults and only Arabs have problems in the world and the only stable and perfect regions of the Muslim world are non-Arab countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Indonesia, Turkmenistan Nigeria, Bangladesh etc. (tons of others).

Did you not claim that most Arabs (you mean Afro-Arabs) were Black a few days ago, LOL?

Not sure if your posts are to be taken serious or if you are a troll/false-flagger. Anyway whatever the case, 3-4 trolls already derailed this thread so it does not matter. The thread is ruined which was probably the goal of those people.

Also this enemy talk does not work here as I already told you in the previous thread.

Now can we return to topic or what?
 
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PHOTOS: Blanket of clouds covers coastal Saudi city
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The city is called Khat, and is located 170 kilometers north, and 20 kilometers away from the al-Namas governorate. (Al Arabiya)

Staff writer, Al Arabiya English
Thursday, 31 May 2018

This southern coastal Saudi city sees a beautiful blanket of clouds on a few days in the year during the winter time.

The city is called Khat, and is located 170 kilometers north, and 20 kilometers away from the al-Namas governorate.

The coastal city enjoys great weather and hosts several breathtaking mountains. The city is meant to be under development.

Al Arabiya’s Thafer al-Bakry snapped a few pictures on Wednesday at dawn of the cloud phenomena in Khat to show the beauty of its nature.



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Last Update: Thursday, 31 May 2018 KSA 12:31 - GMT 09:31

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/li...nket-of-clouds-covers-coastal-Saudi-city.html

Al-Ula Treasures: Al-Khoraiba a reflection of the ancient Dadanian Kingdom

By Mohamed Hadi Hannachi Senior Producer, Al Arabiya News Channel
Monday, 21 May 2018

The sites around al-Khoraiba have witnessed civilizations after another in the historic region of Saudi Arabia’s al-Ula.

Al-Khoraiba site is part of the ruins of the ancient city of Dadan, which was Dadanian Kingdom’s metropolis. It is followed by Lehyan. The two are ancient Arabian kingdoms.

Dadanian Kingdom’s influence had emerged in the seventh century BC, dominating several neighboring regions, while Lehyan Kingdom influence had extended from the sixth century BC until the second century BC. Archeological findings show periods of weakness and strength in the Kingdom, which had ruled most of the north-west parts of the Arabian Peninsula.

Due to its historic and geographic significance, the site has become a key tourist destination for both visitors and locals interested in the history of ancient civilizations that ruled Arabia.

Al Arabiya’s Mohamed Hadi Hannachi reports from the site.

Last Update: Monday, 21 May 2018 KSA 00:16 - GMT 21:16

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/li...flection-of-the-ancient-Dadanian-Kingdom.html

Video in the link above.

Arabia’s Balghazi Mountains
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The Balghazi Mountains, which overlooked the market, were known for their archaeological sites from decades ago. (Supplied)

Nadia al-Fawaz, Al Arabiya.net
Thursday, 7 June 2018


Historical records revealed that the ‘Thursday Market’ located in the center of Balghazi in Jazan was the largest market in southern Saudi Arabia. Adjacent to a number of valleys, such as Wadi Gore and Wadi al-Qat, the market attracted several valley residents who descended from the peaks of the mountains to head to the market to shop and display their good, like fruit which they planted on their farms.



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The Balghazi Mountains, which overlooked the market, were known for their archaeological sites from decades ago. The evidence of its history that still exists today proves the greatness of past Saudi generations who built their livelihood in the area despite difficult weather conditions and climatic fluctuations in the region.



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Abdul Ilah al-Faris, a researched in the field, told Al Arabiya that there are several archaeological sites and historical villages in the Balghazi Mountains. Abdul Ilah called on the governorate to protect these artifacts.



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“Officially documenting and analyzing these areas by fully studying the geographical location, how long it’s been there, placing a value on its historical significance and rehabilitating it in a way that fits its natural surroundings will enable us to make this an open museum while protecting its deep history,” Abdul Ilah said.



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“The mountains of Balghazi have plenty of archaeological castles which tell the story of ancient glory, highlighting human creativity through elements of art, beauty, excellence and originality,” he added. “It reflects an aspect of our national identity and its historical role which extends to culture, social, tourism and strategic dimensions.”

Dozens of archaeological villages can be found on these mountains, which boast unique architechtural designs featuring wood and stone.

Last Update: Thursday, 7 June 2018 KSA 09:58 - GMT 06:58

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/li...etween-Saudi-Arabia-s-Balghazi-Mountains.html

Saudi village residents living among beautiful mountains focus on agriculture
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The al-Abid village is unique as its residents still uphold their farming tasks and live by a culture of giving. (Supplied)

Staff writer, Al Arabiya English
Sunday, 10 June 2018

A village in southern Saudi Arabia has combined agriculture and mountains where its residents have held on to old inherited customs and traditions showing daily life of simple farmers in rural areas.

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The al-Abid village is unique as its residents still uphold their farming tasks and live by a culture of giving.

Farming tractors are seen between the hills and mountains surrounding the village creating a beautiful scenery of nature.



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Photographer Rashud al-Harithy took some aerial shots some of the greenery and nature of the village for Al Arabiya.



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Last Update: Sunday, 10 June 2018 KSA 22:05 - GMT 19:05

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/li...bring-together-mountains-and-agriculture.html
 
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If you are obsessed about shrine worship you can visit Iran and some of the many shrines of dead Arabs there. This ignorant practice is no longer practiced in KSA.
Tourism is probably beyond beliefs and religious orientations must be set aside while promoting generic tourism. Having said that, there is no doubt that Saudi has potential to become a cultural and heritage destination. Since new Saudi leadership is about generating revenues from non-oil sector, tourism can play a hand but again, we can find pre-Islamic artifacts / unexplored sites in abundance. Places like Gulf of Aqaba / Haql and Neom city can become tourist attractions and they have tourist places like Al Baad (Mughayr Shuaib), Ism Tayyab, Mount Sinai, Al Ula close to them.

Sadly, same can not be said about Islamic sites. Expansions programs at the holy mosques triggered demolishing of the houses of early Islamic era. Most of the Turkish architecture was destroyed. Shrines at Baqi were buldozed to ground and only last week, I went to Haleema Sadia's house near Bani Saad and someone had buldozed it too. Hijaz Railway was a masterpiece but was never used for unknown reasons. That could have attarcted many. A month back, I went to North and drove towards mount Sinai but Army had closed it completely. Tight religious beliefs and tourism can't really go hand in hand and seeing changes recently is pleasant but that will require time.

We have to be open to admit that mistakes were made in the past but its not the end of the road.
 
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Tourism is probably beyond beliefs and religious orientations must be set aside while promoting generic tourism. Having said that, there is no doubt that Saudi has potential to become a cultural and heritage destination. Since new Saudi leadership is about generating revenues from non-oil sector, tourism can play a hand but again, we can find pre-Islamic artifacts / unexplored sites in abundance. Places like Gulf of Aqaba / Haql and Neom city can become tourist attractions and they have tourist places like Al Baad (Mughayr Shuaib), Ism Tayyab, Mount Sinai, Al Ula close to them.

Sadly, same can not be said about Islamic sites. Expansions programs at the holy mosques triggered demolishing of the houses of early Islamic era. Most of the Turkish architecture was destroyed. Shrines at Baqi were buldozed to ground and only last week, I went to Haleema Sadia's house near Bani Saad and someone had buldozed it too. Hijaz Railway was a masterpiece but was never used for unknown reasons. That could have attarcted many. A month back, I went to North and drove towards mount Sinai but Army had closed it completely. Tight religious beliefs and tourism can't really go hand in hand and seeing changes recently is pleasant but that will require time.

We have to be open to admit that mistakes were made in the past but its not the end of the road.

Finally an informative post although we don't agree on every topic that you mentioned which is only a natural thing. What a refreshment to see on PDF. Thank you.

The good thing about those Islamic sites is that they can always be rebuilt since none of them were original works. I honestly (personally) do not care much as I have never understood the fascination that some Muslims have with shrines.

You mean Ottoman architecture (which was influenced heavily by Arab and Persian architecture) and which there was very little off in KSA. I am not aware of any Ottoman heritage being destroyed other than the fort in Makkah which was a necessity due to the expansion projects.

Otherwise we agree with each other.
 
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Finally an informative post although we don't agree on every topic that you mentioned which is only a natural thing. What a refreshment to see on PDF. Thank you.

The good thing about those Islamic sites is that they can always be rebuilt since none of them were original works. I honestly (personally) do not care much as I have never understood the fascination that some Muslims have with shrines.

You mean Ottoman architecture (which was influenced heavily by Arab and Persian architecture) and which there was very little off in KSA. I am not aware of any Ottoman heritage being destroyed other than the fort in Makkah which was a necessity due to the expansion projects.

Otherwise we agree with each other.
Well lets leave the shrine part away. Culture codes are too complex to decode.

Apart from cultural and archealogical stuff, there are lot of adventure sites. Like I just found a fresh water stream a few weeks back close to Ash Shifa mountains. There are treks and trails, ideal for back packers. Cultural barriers may delay the proceedings but surely KSA will get there. Women are on roads, cinemas have opened. I went to Sharma (Neom) and someone told me casinos will be built there. I am not sure of authenticity of this news.

I, though, am in love with Gulf of Aqaba. Where egypt, israel and jordan are so close, this can become a middle east tourism power hub.
 
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Well lets leave the shrine part away. Culture codes are too complex to decode.

Apart from cultural and archealogical stuff, there are lot of adventure sites. Like I just found a fresh water stream a few weeks back close to Ash Shifa mountains. There are treks and trails, ideal for back packers. Cultural barriers may delay the proceedings but surely KSA will get there. Women are on roads, cinemas have opened. I went to Sharma (Neom) and someone told me casinos will be built there. I am not sure of authenticity of this news.

I, though, am in love with Gulf of Aqaba. Where egypt, israel and jordan are so close, this can become a middle east tourism power hub.

My friend, as you might know, the majority of KSA's population are not Hanbalis. KSA is one of the few Muslim countries, if not the only one, where you have large indigenous (also the respectively oldest) communities of Shafi'is (Hijaz), Hanbalis (Najd mainly but not only), Hanafis (North), Malikis (Hijaz and Eastern Region), Zaydis (Southern regions), Shai Twelvers (Eastern Province), Sufis (Hijaz) etc. Even Ismailis in Najran.

It's not so much a question whether it would hurt anyone personally it would just be a change in religious policies ever since KSA emerged. As you know the ulema is dominated by Hanbalis and clerics mostly based in or from Najd. There are historical regions for that similar to why Riyadh is the capital of KSA and say not Jeddah.

Another problem is that those shrines could become the major pilgrimage site for Shia Muslims and thus this would remove focus for the main purposes of Hajj and Umrah which are not about visiting shrines of long dead people.

It would need some time for people to accept this new reality but overall I don't think that it would case any great stir, especially not 10 years from now on.

KSA has many, many hidden jewels and diamonds across all of the territory (KSA is the size of Western Europe). The problems are a non-existent (modern) tourism sector which we know the reasons for all too well.

The Rub' al-Khali alone is quite some wilderness that could be turned into the ultimate adventure tourism for those with a fondness for desert exploration and desert tourism/life. Once could easily built world class results like the UAE did in their part of the Rub' al-Khali.
















And KSA has tons of lakes in the Rub' al-Khali and national parks. Desert safari could be combined with a day at a lake in Rub' al-Khali. How cool would that be?

Quite cool if you ask me.

Not sure about the Casino part. Sounds like some rumor on the internet or wishful thinking but who knows? Might very well occur in and around NEOM.

Yes, that's where NEOM comes into the picture my friend.

Also don't forget the goal of turning some of the 1.500 islands in KSA (many volcanic, mountainous, tropical etc.) islands into tourist resorts. Almost like another Maldives.



The volcanic areas around Madinah alone are some of the most remarkable landscapes for volcano enthusiasts in the world as per the experts own words.



https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fe...no-in-Saudi-Arabia-near-the-Prophet-tomb.html

I will go as far as saying that KSA is the least explored country tourism wise in the world that has the most to offer. Or very close to that "title".

Many locals are wishfully ignorant about everything that KSA has to offer and what it can end up offering with some care from the authorities.

Anyway locals would need to be educated in the hotel and tourism sector and familiarize themselves with foreigners, including Muslims, to offer the best services as possible. I don't expect the well-educated portion of the youth (majority) to want to work in that sector too much, so the lesser "fortunate" and lesser travelled portion of the society (the rural community - albeit well-known for their hospitality) would need to step up on this front.

Some of the really wild areas in KSA, for instance the South, are also a bit of a "Wild West" with everything this entails. For example it is rare to find high-quality accommodation in the South despite the beautiful nature (mountains and greenery). This simply has to be improved.

Infrastructure (railways, public transport, more metros in the major cities, even better airports) should also improve. Marinas in the many small coastal villages in Hijaz should also be built. Criminally underrated areas.
 
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I will go as far as saying that KSA is the least explored country tourism wise in the world that has the most to offer. Or very close to that "title".
True this. Its massive but unexplored. Going to Rab Ul Khali next month over the weekend to see the newly created lakes. I personally seek wilderness which is abundant in Saudi. I am off the casino and pool party age but with tourism promotion, comes social freedom. Now is the time for youth to have it. Cherio.
 
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True this. Its massive but unexplored. Going to Rab Ul Khali next month over the weekend to see the newly created lakes. I personally seek wilderness which is abundant in Saudi. I am off the casino and pool party age but with tourism promotion, comes social freedom. Now is the time for youth to have it. Cherio.

Sorry for the late reply. I was away for a few days and I did not receive this notification (as I often do not do for some strange reason).

I totally agree with you. What I prefer about tourism (personally) is the adventure tourism combined with visits of historical sites. Of course I like beach holidays as well but this is mostly something that people from cold countries prefer as they live inc countries where there is only decent weather 2-3 months (at most) during the year. In KSA you have beach weather in most of the country all year round.:lol: Also KSA has some of the most beautiful coastlines in the world so other than beautiful cliffs and mountainous coastlines in the Mediterranean, not too much will impress me being familiar with the coastlines of KSA and Arabia as a whole.

Anyway what KSA could offer for tourism is also something unique. Something much different than most other travel destinations. That is something that millions of people would be curious about alone. Also due to the somewhat negative reputation of KSA in recent decades (as a Pakistani you know what I am referring to here), tourists would only leave with a positive experience (if tourism infrastructure and the last few moronic laws were to be removed) as they probably did not expect much. I mean those who have little knowledge.

BTW please take some photos and share them here. If you are lucky you might encounter such scenes in the utter wilderness that is the Rub' al-Khali.

Lakes in the desert? New Nasa images show impact of huge tropical storm on the Empty Quarter

The phenomenon, which last happened 20 years ago, took place after tropical cyclone Mekunu tore through the region in May

Gillian Duncan
June 17, 2018
Updated: June 17, 2018 06:02 PM

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New images from Nasa show temporary lakes formed on the landscape of the Empty Quarter after it was hit by Tropical Cyclone Mekunu in May. Courtesy Nasa

Newly released images captured from space show the effect of tropical cyclone Mekunu on the Empty Quarter, after the storm dumped several years’ worth of rain on the desert and created temporary lakes between the sand dunes.

Tropical cyclone Mekunu tore through the region in May, dumping three times Oman’s annual rainfall – 278 millimetres – on the vast area in just 24 hours.

Now footage released by space agency Nasa has revealed the effects of the storm on what is usually one of the driest places on the planet.

“Mekunu dissipated as it tracked north-west over land, but still delivered plenty of water to the desert,” stated Nasa’s website.

“Notice where water collected in the lowlands between sand dunes. For comparison, the second image was acquired on May 13 and represents the typically dry appearance of the interdune sand flats.”

The Empty Quarter, also known as the Rub Al Khali, is the largest contiguous sand desert in the world and spans the southern third of the Arabian Peninsula, including the UAE.

The images were taken of the eastern part of the desert in Saudi Arabia, near the border with Oman.

It has been 20 years since rainwater last filled the flats, according to Nasa’s Earth Observatory website. It usually receives just three centimetres of rain each year.

The Landsat programme – the longest continuous space-based record of Earth's land – has also recently released pictures of Dubai that shows the breathtaking pace of the city’s development.

Part of a series released by the US space agency, the images show how quickly cities around the world have grown over the past 30 years.

Using images from its Landsat programme, the first picture shows Dubai in 1984, when it was home to 350,000 people and little more than a strip along the Arabian Gulf.

The second image, from last year, when the population had expanded to more than three million, shows the city creeping deep into the desert.

Many of its most recognisable landmarks are also visible on the coast, including Palm Jumerah, the World – and even upcoming developments such as Deira Islands.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/lake...-tropical-storm-on-the-empty-quarter-1.740960

3 amazing Youtube videos showing the beauty of Rub' al-Khali

Empty Quarter - George Steinmetz


الربع الخالي فلم مثيروحقايق غريبه مختصر استكشاف جامعة القصيم


علامة الساعة التى اخبرنا بها النبي (ﷺ) ـ ظهور نهر في الجزيرة العربية: عود أرض العرب مروجا وأنهار


Earth from Space: Rub’ al Khali Desert


Rub Al-Khali Collection (Empty Quater)

http://www.pbase.com/digitalazia/rubkhali_l

RIVERS IN Rub Al Khali “The Empty Quarter”

https://ayaat.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/rivers-in-rub-al-khali-the-empty-quarter/

Informative article about the Rub' al Khali

http://www.sidetracked.com/edition-08/oman.php

Difference (before and after satellite photo);






The situation not many millennia ago (one of the largest lakes and some of the longest rivers were located in Arabia) which explains why some of the oldest discovered civilizations and historical sites (advanced) have been found in Arabia and the nearby borderlands (back then non-existent as there are no geographic barriers) between Mesopotamia, Levant, Egypt (Sinai) etc.

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One now understands why leading archaeologists believe that the Rub' al-Khali is hiding some of humanities most interesting stories from the ancient world.

Already the oldest traits of humans migrating into Arabia from Africa and from then on the remaining world have been found and studied in recent years and that with less territory studied than 0,01%.

Oldest human fossil from Saudi Arabia changes timeline for migration out of Africa

Doyle Rice USA TODAY
Published 6:53 p.m. UTC Apr 9, 2018
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Ian Cartwright
The oldest homo sapiens fossil ever discovered in Saudi Arabia means the first human migration out of Africa was much more geographically widespread than originally thought, a new study suggests.

The fossil, an adult human's finger bone, dates back to 90,000 years ago, when the region's barren desert was green grassland.

Study lead author Huw Groucutt of the University of Oxford said the discovery for the first time conclusively shows that early humans lived in an expansive region in southwest Asia and weren't just restricted to the Levant, an area that includes modern-day Israel, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.

"The ability of these early people to widely colonize this region casts doubt on long-held views that early dispersals out of Africa were localized and unsuccessful,” Groucutt said.

The earliest homo sapiens fossils date to around 315,000 years ago from Africa. Previously discovered human fossils show an earlier human presence in Israel and possibly China.

More: Scientists discover oldest human fossil outside of Africa

The finger bone was discovered in 2016 at the site of Al Wusta, an ancient freshwater lake located in what is now the extremely arid Nefud Desert, about 340 miles southeast of the Sinai Peninsula.

Archaeologists previously thought humanity's movement out of Africa was in a single, rapid wave some 60,000 years ago, study co-author Michael Petraglia, an archaeologist from Germany's Max Planck Institute, said at a news briefing.

The finding instead suggests modern humans moved out of Africa multiple times during many windows of opportunity during the last 100,000 years or so, he said.

"This discovery of a fossil finger bone for me is like a dream come true because it supports arguments that our teams have been making for more than 10 years,” Petraglia said.

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Michael Petraglia
The authors conclude from this early incursion into what was then a green Arabia that human movement out of Africa may have been helped by natural climate change in the form of increased precipitation.

As summer rainfall began to fall more frequently in Arabia, it allowed migrating humans to occupy not only the woodlands of the Levant — which were sustained by winter rainfall — but also such semi-arid grasslands in the Arabian interior as Al Wusta.

At that time, the region was "a fertile, lowland zone attractive to colonization by plants, animals and humans," noted Donald Henry, an anthropologist at the University of Tulsa, in an article that accompanied the study.

The authors suggest that adapting to this new environment would have been an early step on homo sapiens‘ path to global success.

The results were published Monday in Nature Ecology and Evolution, a peer-reviewed British journal.

Contributing: The Associated Press

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...-saudi-arabia-discovered-migration/499222002/

Fascinating stuff to say the least.
 
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True this. Its massive but unexplored. Going to Rab Ul Khali next month over the weekend to see the newly created lakes. I personally seek wilderness which is abundant in Saudi. I am off the casino and pool party age but with tourism promotion, comes social freedom. Now is the time for youth to have it. Cherio.
Casinos will be built on the Egyptian and Jordanian sides of NEOM.. this was clearly stated by MBS when he announced the project..
 
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