Is PAF any good now after the russian sale of S-400 to Indians

[ebrahym]

I just want senior members to comment on the russian sale of S-400 to Indians.
I read it somewhere that they can destroy a pakistani aircraft or missile as soon as they take of ....... I just wanted to know that recent purchase of SU-35 is to counter it ..... or have we done anything to counter it or are they just bluffing about getting them because russia has not sold it to anyone yet and only possible dealers are going to be belarusians perheps ....... plz comments

 

[Muhammad Omar]

I just want senior members to comment on the russian sale of S-400 to Indians.
I read it somewhere that they can destroy a pakistani aircraft or missile as soon as they take of ....... I just wanted to know that recent purchase of SU-35 is to counter it ..... or have we done anything to counter it or are they just bluffing about getting them because russia has not sold it to anyone yet and only possible dealers are going to be belarusians perheps ....... plz comments

PAF buying Su-35 is just a rumor yet nothing concrete no deal...

 

[Ihtasham ahmed]

I just want senior members to comment on the russian sale of S-400 to Indians.
I read it somewhere that they can destroy a pakistani aircraft or missile as soon as they take of ....... I just wanted to know that recent purchase of SU-35 is to counter it ..... or have we done anything to counter it or are they just bluffing about getting them because russia has not sold it to anyone yet and only possible dealers are going to be belarusians perheps ....... plz comments

there are ways to destroy sam sites , and most of the sam sites are destroyed with in first few days of full blown war , terrain hugging and then bombing sams , jamming and the bombing , saturating the airspace with drones and let them fire to know their locations , destroying with special ground forces , s400 will be a serious threat for us but it can be countered

 

[Manticore]

Possible Russian S-400 sale to India and Pakistan's Response. | Page 28

 

[xyxmt]

I wonder why is US selling those 8 F16 to Pakistan, they offered it on their own...for what?

 

[Muhammad Omar]

I wonder why is US selling those 8 F16 to Pakistan, they offered it on their own...for what?

So Pakistan don't buy any Russian Jets

 

[wiseone2]

So Pakistan don't buy any Russian Jets

If I was Uncle Sam I would let the PAF acquire Russian jets. You can see for yourself how good or bad Russian technology is.

 

[ebrahym]

I wonder why is US selling those 8 F16 to Pakistan, they offered it on their own...for what?

i have heard they are nuclear capable but no verification yet

If I was Uncle Sam I would let the PAF acquire Russian jets. You can see for yourself how good or bad Russian technology is.

i think they are selling us F-16 probably to stop us from purchasing russian sukhois

 

[A2Z]

If I was Uncle Sam I would let the PAF acquire Russian jets. You can see for yourself how good or bad Russian technology is.

For that they don't need PAF to buy Russian jets. They have their own ways to test the potency of Russian technology. This offering is only to stop Pakistan from buying Russian jets similar situation occurred when PA decided to buy Mi-35 after US rejected sales of AH-1Z. Once Mi-35 was given thumbs up all of a sudden uncle sam approved the sales for 15 AH-1Z and 1000 hellfires. However then PA was wise enough to purchase both the platforms.

I just want senior members to comment on the russian sale of S-400 to Indians.
I read it somewhere that they can destroy a pakistani aircraft or missile as soon as they take of ....... I just wanted to know that recent purchase of SU-35 is to counter it ..... or have we done anything to counter it or are they just bluffing about getting them because russia has not sold it to anyone yet and only possible dealers are going to be belarusians perheps ....... plz comments

Firstly as per my limited knowledge the sales of Su-35 is still a rumor and so is S-400 until we don't see a confirmation from either side. Secondly even if S-400 is sold to India that doesn't mean PAF would become useless. There are dozens of ways to counter systems like S-400 one of which already mentioned is by saturating the air space by drones another can be by taking out radars of such systems by terrain hugging cruise missiles. So to sum it up even if India gets S-400 it would be a great threat to PAF but wouldn't mean game over.

 

[ebrahym]

For that they don't need PAF to buy Russian jets. They have their own ways to test the potency of Russian technology. This offering is only to stop Pakistan from buying Russian jets similar situation occurred when PA decided to buy Mi-35 after US rejected sales of AH-1Z. Once Mi-35 was given thumbs up all of a sudden uncle sam approved the sales for 15 AH-1Z and 1000 hellfires. However then PA was wise enough to purchase both the platforms.


Firstly as per my limited knowledge the sales of Su-35 is still a rumor and so is S-400 until we don't see a confirmation from either side. Secondly even if S-400 is sold to India that doesn't mean PAF would become useless. There are dozens of ways to counter systems like S-400 one of which already mentioned is by saturating the air space by drones another can be by taking out radars of such systems by terrain hugging cruise missiles. So to sum it up even if India gets S-400 it would be a great threat to PAF but wouldn't mean game over.

we can also buy some anti-radiation systems to counter S-400..... but still its sale to india is yet to be confirmed

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I just want senior members to comment on the russian sale of S-400 to Indians.
I read it somewhere that they can destroy a pakistani aircraft or missile as soon as they take of ....... I just wanted to know that recent purchase of SU-35 is to counter it ..... or have we done anything to counter it or are they just bluffing about getting them because russia has not sold it to anyone yet and only possible dealers are going to be belarusians perheps ....... plz comments

After the fiasco in Syria, PAF should give a very serious thought before buying anything entirely Russian. This is a very humble opinion from a naive in aerospace technology. Russian equipment + Indian maintenance is a marriage in heaven!!!

 

[nForce]

we can also buy some anti-radiation systems to counter S-400..... but still its sale to india is yet to be confirmed

Don't worry. We have a habit of getting what we want.

 

[Desi_Guy]

If I was Uncle Sam I would let the PAF acquire Russian jets. You can see for yourself how good or bad Russian technology is.

Bro Uncle Sam will loose a valuable customer and more importantly access to middle east through Pakistan if they allow the Pakistanis to purchase from Russia . It will be the end of their so called friendship

 

[Kakaspai]

Don't worry. We have a habit of getting what we want.

But still you can't have trade route through Pakistan

 

[nForce]

But still you can't have trade route through Pakistan

As of now, I dont see that happening. That's why we are working on workarounds. That is how we manage to get what we want. The goal is to have a trade route.