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Is it our war?

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Since 1979 Pakistan, being an important country as a gateway to Central, West and South Asia, has participated actively in the US-sponsored jihad against the Soviets and now the war against terrorism. Despite the fact that the jihad brought extremism and militancy in society, the war against terrorism is being fought against the products of jihad-e-Afghanistan. Now the million dollar question is that if this war, being fought against extremism and militancy by Pakistan, is in its own national interests or not? Before 1979, there were no extremism and militancy in Pakistani society other than some limited problems. These new issues have been brought to the region and Pakistan as a result of the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

The West has been responsible for breeding militancy and extremism in Pakistan by bring in thousands of mujahideen to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and then leaving Pakistan alone a decade later to face the armed warriors. Despite the fact that there have been Islamist reformist movements working in Pakistan since 1947, Pakistani society was tolerant and moderate till 1979. It has been rightly said that whatever extremism is in Pakistan it is direct fallout of 27 years of warfare and militancy around us.

Suicide bombing is, nonetheless, a new phenomenon witnessed in Pakistan in recent times. It has caused a great loss of life. Several hundred innocent people and jawans of the Pakistan army, police and paramilitary forces have lost their lives in suicide bombings by the extremists and militants over the past few years. PPP chairperson Benazir Bhutto also fell a victim to a terrorist attack while President Musharraf and former prime minister Shaukat Aziz survived attempts on their lives. In recent times, no other country seems to have suffered so much at the hands of terrorists and militants as Pakistan.

Today, Pakistan’s socio-economic and political stability is at stake because of extremism and militancy. Pakistan while enduring the problems of terrorism and militancy has born material as well as human losses. This menace is posing serious threats to our internal security situation. The tumult in Waziristan and Swat is an ample manifestation of the threat that these forces pose to Pakistan. The extremists and militants are not only trying to extend their influence in Pakistani tribal belt but also in settle areas too.

Many of these militants and extremists are foreigners who came to Afghanistan in the 1980s to wage their version of jihad against the Soviets. Even after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, these jihadis from Arab, Asian and African countries remained in Afghanistan and Pakistani tribal belt, marrying with the locals. After the US and coalition forces ousted the Taliban regime in late 2001, these foreigners sought refuge in the bordering tribal region between Pakistan and Afghanistan, extending the war on terror to Pakistan. Along with al Qaeda, these foreign extremists and militants and their allies in Pakistan have become perpetrators of violence and terror, while making the government as well as the people of Pakistan the prime targets.

Pakistan, that initially joined the war on terror as an ally, became a victim of terrorism. This situation led to military operations in Waziristan and Swat to confront the terrorists and militants who are not only challenging writ of the state but also creating chaos and instability in the region. No one can deny the negative repercussions of extremism and militancy on any state and society but there could be a difference of opinion on how to handle extremism and militancy. There is no denying the fact that Pakistan is fighting the war against terrorism for its own integrity and security. However, it is handling the menace of extremism and terrorism with full military might because of failure of some peace initiatives due to trust deficit.

There is a general perception that Pakistan is fighting someone else’s war. This perception comes from the unilateralist approach adopted by the US and the way the Western media covers the war on terror. Time and again, there has been pressure from the US on Islamabad to do more without fully realising the limitations for Pakistan. According to Shuja Nawaz, a military analyst, “there is always a little bit of resentment when the US acts unilaterally … because this is supposed to be a partnership.” The US at times has been giving the impression that counter terrorism is not a partnership based on understanding. Pakistan is cooperating with the US because of its own security compulsions and it can only cooperate with the US according to its own national interests.

Extremism and militancy can only be defeated through concrete efforts by adopting a multi-pronged strategy — economic, political and military. Only the use of force cannot and has not been able to achieve success. Most importantly, the process of socio-economic development, aimed at benefiting the common man must be a priority. The political strategy should focus on separating and isolating the terrorists from the rest of the population and ensuring political participation of the underdeveloped areas, such as the tribal areas. When people see a positive change in their lives, they turn away from violence and go towards peace and reconciliation. Lastly, the military option should be used as a last resort to counter insurgency.

Despite the fact that our success will require continued support of the US as both the countries share a long-standing strategic partnership based on the commonality of interests, there is a serious need for re-evaluating counter-terrorism policies by increasing emphasis on dialogue and developmental works in the troubled areas. There have also been voices in the US government and academia of increasing support to Pakistan for enabling it to improve its role in tackling terrorism. For instance, Senator Joseph Biden, Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee, advocated for a “democracy dividend” by tripling of US assistance for socio-economic development during the next decade. Some of the US experts on South Asia have also urged the US government for bolstering economic aid as well as trade access for Pakistan to create goodwill among the general public.

Extremism and militancy is, of course, an issue that has created turmoil in the region and has directly and indirectly affected Pakistan. The internal threat is also posing a challenge to the integrity of the country. With pragmatic policies and progressive approach not only Pakistan would be better able to defeat extremism but also develop its potential to play a significant role by becoming an important economic hub. The moderate forces should join hands to defeat the extremism and terrorism.
 
Very Well said and yeh it is our war that we must win at all cost
 
wel said But The million dollar question is what will happen even if we won this war ?.Will the US would continue its such support for Pakistan. What will be the relations between Pakistan and US and what kind of relations we be having with India ?
Would there be any betterment or we will again face sanctions Like we did after going Nuclear ?
Many people believe if we support those so called millitants rather than US it would make our defence much stronger cause those so called millitants prooved to be a gr8 deterance against India in Kashmir and they could be a gr8 deterance a
gainst any aggressor .
The US needs us to win the war in afghanistan.
Look Those Millitants helped us won the war against Soviats(which were ten times greater in number than the current forces in afghanistan).
And if some how US completely succeeds with our help in AfganWAr(2) than US will gain an important strategic victory . It will place missile defence sheild in Afghanistan and will gain a political dominance over (China Iran and Pakistan(Muslim Nuclear state)) with the help of india in this reagion. In other words China would be weakend and Pakistan will be deprived from its nukes and would be devided in to seperate states which would be like sitting ducks for india and Israel..
 
Yes, Pakistan is the state that was involved in nuclear proliferation, and provided nuclear bombs to North Korea and Iran. I am sure the US will deal with pakistan for this, sooner or later.

Let them come. We are always ready to defend our freedom and no Pakistani will every bow down, we rather get our heads cut off.:pakistan:
 
wel said But The million dollar question is what will happen even if we won this war ?.Will the US would continue its such support for Pakistan. What will be the relations between Pakistan and US and what kind of relations we be having with India ?
Would there be any betterment or we will again face sanctions Like we did after going Nuclear ?
Many people believe if we support those so called millitants rather than US it would make our defence much stronger cause those so called millitants prooved to be a gr8 deterance against India in Kashmir and they could be a gr8 deterance a
gainst any aggressor .
The US needs us to win the war in afghanistan.
Look Those Millitants helped us won the war against Soviats(which were ten times greater in number than the current forces in afghanistan).
And if some how US completely succeeds with our help in AfganWAr(2) than US will gain an important strategic victory . It will place missile defence sheild in Afghanistan and will gain a political dominance over (China Iran and Pakistan(Muslim Nuclear state)) with the help of india in this reagion. In other words China would be weakend and Pakistan will be deprived from its nukes and would be devided in to seperate states which would be like sitting ducks for india and Israel..


What will happen if the war was won can be compared with what is happening today when the war has not been won?

Supporting the Taliban or allowing the fundamentalists a free hand has caused immense problems for the average Pakistanis. The bomb blasts that are occurring regularly are making life very unpredictable and people are living under stress. Suicide bombers are Moslems and to blame other nations, as is the practice, only indicate that foreign nations can buy Moslems to wage war on Moslems. Obviously, such a thought is not palatable to the pious Moslem mind and most would reject such a thought since it goes against the religious belief that Moslems are beyond such allurements.

Now if the fundamentalists or as you say, so called militants are allowed a free hand, there is a good possibility that they take over the governance of Pakistan and bring in the regimen of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Are the Pakistanis ready for such a tight rein over its people. Is Pakistan ready to be stoned to death based on the Taliban court’s verdict and stoned to death in a Stadium? Are Pakistanis ready to forsake music and merriment?

If the answer is yes, then indeed the so called Militants should be supported, and all power should be given to them at the earliest.

As far as the missile shield is concerned, it is adequate to know that if it is placed in India, Sri Lanka or anywhere close, then the worry that you express will be in place without any win being required in Afghanistan.

In so far as Kashmir is concerned and the militants going berserk there, if Pakistan does have a Taliban regime, do you think that Kashmir will remain India’s problem? The whole West will then be at the doorstep.

It may also interest you that the Chinese are not too enamoured with the militants gaining an upper hand. They are highly worried about the Islamic movement amongst the Uighurs and they will be more so now because the Tibetans are up in arms.

If you are the one who likes to support the fundamentalists, then be frank and say so. You do not have to labour so vigorously and so ploddingly to prove your point.

Also, one must remember that Musharraf was not without good reasons for not supporting the fundamentalists. Like it or not, he held Pakistan together and kept it in fine fettle.

Let us see what 'democracy' brings for Pakistan!!
 
Astra,

Don't start a fire please. Thanks.
 
Now if the fundamentalists or as you say, so called militants are allowed a free hand, there is a good possibility that they take over the governance of Pakistan and bring in the regimen of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Are the Pakistanis ready for such a tight rein over its people. Is Pakistan ready to be stoned to death based on the Taliban court’s verdict and stoned to death in a Stadium? Are Pakistanis ready to forsake music and merriment?

If the answer is yes, then indeed the so called Militants should be supported, and all power should be given to them at the earliest.
I am not saying that They should be given the power to govern. The west is Already at our doorstep sniffing for a perfect time to strike. And this presence of west has created deep concerns in Bejing also. And i m not supporting fundamentalism . I am saying this is an element which can be used for a cause of defence in a worst case scenario as they were used when russia came close to our doorstep`.
Fundamental elemnts prevailed in our society even before the Afgan war. But were there any sucide bombings or any incident of a Pakistani soldier being beheaded .

since we enterd this war has the US did any thing for us for which we can feel proud instead of blaming us we are not diong more.
Bush Administration havent got the eyes to see Pakistani soldiers being Beheaded. They simply say we want more more more...
This war is definately not in our long term benifit.


The overall game is to neutralize the Pakistani nukes.
 

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