What's new

Is India making the same mistake Pakistan made by allying with the US?

India knows that and it is very reason it is backing terrorists in Afghanistan and Karchi to harm Pakistan politically and economically. Ecnomic Hit-Man pattern was what India was adopting but it has lost that war already. Pretty much every terrorist factor which it was backing is now either nullified or weakened to safe limits.

But I don not negate a possibility of a war with India. CPEC is going to prove lethal for India. Imagine a Chinese naval base and air-base in Gawadar encircling India from the eastern edge to western edge. This is what haunts India and itches it to do something to avoid this neck-stap.

CPEC is more the reason why chances of war between India and Pakistan has further decreased. China would not wants its $46 billion investments evaporate in thin air.

The future wars will be fought on economic turfs. And India, Pakistan and even China will do they same and have to adapt to fight on economics and influence. India is doing the same with Chabhar and Pakistan and China are doing with Gwadar.

This writer wants India to become a vassal state of China, we shouldn't follow our interests because China may not like it, what nonsense. Maybe we should also accept that Hafiz Sayed and Masood Azhar are social workers to please China.

The writer don't know what he wants to convey. You cannot keep quite if China keeps on hitting you.
 
.
Is India making the same mistake Pakistan made by allying with the US?
By Sanjay Kumar 4 hours ago

9 CommentsPrintEmail
35463-obamamodi-1466763262-585-640x480.jpg

U.S. President Barack Obama shakes hands with Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the end of their meeting in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington September 30, 2014. PHOTO: REUTERS

The post-colonial history tells us that Uncle Sam has been more of a destabiliser than a divine presence in the region. Pakistan has been a close ally of the US since the 50s. But has the Islamic country been a real beneficiary by playing the western world’s game in South Asia? In its blind desire to get military parity with India and neutralise the existential threat from its eastern neighbour, Islamabad became a front for Washington in the NATO’s war against communist Soviet Russia.

As a result, Pakistan, a newly born country, lost its strategic autonomy quite early in its life and became a pawn in the larger game of the western countries.

America used to fete the Pakistani leaders and military generals whenever they visited Washington. This gave them a bloated sense of their importance. What used to serve the egos of the Pakistani leaders was not in the larger interest of the nation.

Many of the evils afflicting the Islamic Republic today are by-products of its close embracewith the US.

India, under the first Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, decided to make a different tryst with its destiny. Victim of colonial power for more than 200 years, it decided to chart out a different foreign policy path and, instead of becoming a camp follower, it took steps towards becoming the leader of third world countries. Non-aligned Movement (NAM) was a by-product of this thinking. No doubt New Delhi has been a close ally of Soviet Russia ideologically and strategically. It, however, never rented out its strategic autonomy and independence in foreign policy.

But India, an emerging economy with overweening ambition, is ready to play Pakistan in the second decade of the 21st century. Unmindful of its colonial past and the history of the last six decades, New Delhi is willing to embrace the US in a close strategic hug, thereby auctioning its military independence and strategic autonomy. A leader of the NAM is in a great hurry to become a stooge of the US led alliance. Fearing the overwhelming presence of China in South Asia and the Asia-Pacific region, New Delhi, is willing to join the American camp to thwart the ambitions of Beijing.

The Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) or Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) that the South Asian democracy has agreed to sign in principle with Washington, would give the American military access to India’s bases. That would mean that New Delhi becomes a military lackey of the US, the way that Japan, Philippines and South Korea are. The South East Asian nations have different historical experiences and concerns, and they have reasons to join an Asia-Pacific alliance meant to contain China.

But India has its own place in history and nurtures a future which reflects its glory and achievement rather than being a flag bearer of another country’s ambition. It’s a fact universally acknowledged that America is in a desperate situation to play a leadership role in the world vis-à-vis China. Its depleted economic might limits its military ambition and outreach. Washington wants to rope in New Delhi to play its game and compensate its declining power.

The problem is that the governing party in India today is a Hindu right wing party, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a group that has never participated in any anti-colonial movement and its ideological parent, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), always served as a stooge of the British during the freedom struggle. A party with such a dubious history is bereft of the larger vision that shaped the struggle for independent India.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a man with highly constricted intellectual horizons, believes that by bringing India into a close military embrace with the US – he is venting the aspirations of new India. He wants India to think that anti-China strategic alliance with the west and a membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) are the best things that could happen to the country. But Modi, a man with limited ideology, does not understand that the corporatisation of the foreign policy might serve India’s corporate and business interests, but harms the larger vision of the nation.

He does not understand that India’s interests and the interests of the west are at odds with each other. Terrorism in the region found its roots, not because of Pakistan but because of the western world. Today Afghanistan is suffering not just because of Islamabad; Washington played a great role in legitimising destabilisation in the Hindu Kush.

A military alliance with the US would mean the sanitisation of the American sins in South Asia and elsewhere. Can we escape the consequences of accepting an international evil? If India allows Washington to launch drones from its territory against the Taliban or the ISIS, can we remain unscathed from the resultant consequences? A military alliance with America means India will also be drawn into war against terror, and that would make India even more vulnerable to terror attacks.

Friendship with the US comes at the cost of South Asian solidarity. It will not allow India to normalise their relationship with Pakistan. Joining the American camp pushes Islamabad deeper into the rival camp. Any future friendship with China becomes all the more difficult. The LSA means institutionalisation of historical animosities in South Asia.

You can choose your friends, but you cannot choose your neighbours. India has no option but to deal with its two neighbours – China and Pakistan. Why should New Delhi buy into the western notion that China’s rise is a threat to India? China is in a different league and India is nowhere close to the communist regime. Although ideally, establishing peace and stability in the larger picture would require New Delhi and Beijing to engage with each other more. However, at the moment, India’s alliance with the US creates tension in the region – with both the big neighbours looking at each other with greater distrust than ever before.

If New Delhi thinks that military alliance with the western nation would bring stability or parity in South Asia, it suffers from myopia. Bilateralism between India and Pakistan suffers. Normalisation of relations between the two neighbours becomes all the more difficult. As a result, Afghanistan remains just as disturbed as it has always been. Overall, the new military alliance promises to cause more destabilisation in South Asia than has ever been witnessed before.

If we don’t learn from history, history condemns us.

Sanjay Kumar
A New Delhi based broadcast journalist who reports on national and international affairs. He is a contributor to the Asia Pacific based magazine, The Diplomat. He tweets as @destinydefier (twitter.com/destinydefier)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

The guy has made some excellent points. Never expected from an Indian. Is he Indian by the way?
On topic Indians would find out the hard way just like Pakistan did, the cost of aligning with the US. Our biggest mistake was playing against the soviets and India is repeating the same mistake by doing so against the Chinese. US in all of this remains unharmed because it does not share a border. The countries in the region suffers while the americans enjoy the show all the while remaining safe.
 
.
Allying with USA is good for India.
That brings much needed assistance to the unnecessary bullying from China.
In fact, congratulations in successfully pushing us to USA's side which we resisted all these years foolishly thinking that peace will be attained with neighbors. When neighbors don't understand shake-hands what other options India has ?
 
.
The guy has made some excellent points. Never expected from an Indian. Is he Indian by the way?
On topic Indians would find out the hard way just like Pakistan did, the cost of aligning with the US. Our biggest mistake was playing against the soviets and India is repeating the same mistake by doing so against the Chinese. US in all of this remains unharmed because it does not share a border. The countries in the region suffers while the americans enjoy the show all the while remaining safe.

What a caring attitude !
You really know why India is cozying up with USA.
 
.
CPEC is more the reason why chances of war between India and Pakistan has further decreased. China would not wants its $46 billion investments evaporate in thin air.

The future wars will be fought on economic turfs. And India, Pakistan and even China will do they same and have to adapt to fight on economics and influence. India is doing the same with Chabhar and Pakistan and China are doing with Gwadar.

There are chances of war before CPEC completes. Once completed, changes of war will reduce while troubles of India would escalate. So why should it let its enemy build walls round its country and growth designs when it has a chance of preventing it? Also when Modi is in power, I expect aggression than reconciliation.
 
.
What a caring attitude !
You really know why India is cozying up with USA.

I dont care about India, its just the reality which is why i brought my country and pointed out the mistakes we did.
 
.
In the long term India will be dumping market for US reactors and weapons which India will have no enemy to use on..it will become a warehouse of US weapon stock piles..the best Indian dream of beating Chinese on any front will always remain a dream because even with all the weapon they do not have the Chinese economic and industrial might to continue fighting..PLA can send thousands of bombers at once to destroy large part of Indian industry in a matter of hours..while at the same time they can co-ordinate naval blockade by sending thousands of Ships and bombs strategic ports...
 
. .
There are chances of war before CPEC completes. Once completed, changes of war will reduce while troubles of India would escalate. So why should it let its enemy build walls round its country and growth designs when it has a chance of preventing it? Also when Modi is in power, I expect aggression than reconciliation.
off all your so so wrong about how NaMo will counter pakistani agression and chinese bullying he will never attack or use militarry force first but will not spare when attacked weather its a single fron or multiple fronts hope you know what i mean .... SIR
 
.
Then that's on them and not on the USA. When will people realize that generations of corrupt and incompetent politicians have literally, gotten away with murder and enriched themselves at their countries expense by using the old formula that always, always, works; "blame America!" They bet that when the people suffer, their infrastructure is a disaster, they suffer defeats, their government is corrupt, their children live in poverty, that rather than hold their own government accountable, their corrupt leaders can just blame big, mean, ole' America for all their faults and troubles. Wave the flag of patriotic nationalism and anti-Americanism, and it will works every time. :tsk:
I agree to some extend but it seems like you don't even know your own government. They use other countries not by giving economic warfare but by force and fear. Major of them all is economic sanctions, toppling of governments and installing puppet government of your own choice. Part of me is glad that Pakistan is moving towards Russia and china. Even more glad that china will take over in economic terms. Once india make enemy out of china, russia and what not then you will show your true face to them as well. We will be soon be hearing dictated terms to them as well ' Dont trade with iran else sanctions', ' No wars, sanctions' and most funny of them all ' gay rights, bomb the hell out of them'
 
.
In the long term India will be dumping market for US reactors and weapons which India will have no enemy to use on..it will become a warehouse of US weapon stock piles..the best Indian dream of beating Chinese on any front will always remain a dream because even with all the weapon they do not have the Chinese economic and industrial might to continue fighting..PLA can send thousands of bombers at once to destroy large part of Indian industry in a matter of hours..while at the same time they can co-ordinate naval blockade by sending thousands of Ships and bombs strategic ports...

You forgot that China was a grass eating country before USA's dumping (Bilateral trade, FDI etc) started.
China was exploited to the core by USA. But today's India is not in yesteryear's China's illiterate and ignorant position to be blindly played in to USA's one-sided interests. That is the reason India has a lot of disputes with USA (IPR policy, pharmaceuticals, recurring hearings in WTO about solar cell manufacturing and many more) today. You know we are far more wary and experienced about what Americans demand and expect. China sacrificed a lot to get just 20-30 % in return from USA. India is going to do a lot better than that. My sincere condolences to Pakistan for being terribly abused and exploited by Americans all these decades. At least China got to steal (reverse-engineer) something from USA. Your country gained nothing except for hostility with Taliban and Iran.
 
.
The guy has made some excellent points. Never expected from an Indian. Is he Indian by the way?
On topic Indians would find out the hard way just like Pakistan did, the cost of aligning with the US. Our biggest mistake was playing against the soviets and India is repeating the same mistake by doing so against the Chinese. US in all of this remains unharmed because it does not share a border. The countries in the region suffers while the americans enjoy the show all the while remaining safe.

What's shocking is that Pakistan took 60 years, a whole 6 decades to realise it's mistake.
 
.
What's shocking is that Pakistan took 60 years, a whole 6 decades to realise it's mistake.
And yet there are some who are bound to repeat the same mistake. Lets see how long it takes them to realise.
 
.
And yet there are some who are bound to repeat the same mistake. Lets see how long it takes them to realise.


I wouldn't call that long a period as a mistake,

if I remember, Pakistan received its first funds of 2 million from the US in 1950.

India isn't Pakistan to lie down and take it for the last 60 years.
 
.
[QUOTE="illusion8, post: 8415617, member: 133343"India isn't Pakistan to lie down and take it for the last 60 years.[/QUOTE]

But India is exactly that a third world country just looking to play its part in the larger game of super powers. Pakistan is no different either. We would had been much better if not for becoming a US lackey. I for one envy Nehru's policy of non alignment on which Indian remained until now. Rest if you believe US is merely opening up because of India's going clout than you cannot be more naive. John Maccain statement should be read in this regard.
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom