Is India cutting ‘off its nose to spite its face’ on OBOR?

[randomradio]

These are daily common scenes in Mumbai local, most of the people travel by Mumbai locals and the Mono rail constructed is just not in use to any extent.

The 7.5 million commuters on Mumbai’s local trains daily, 12 are killed on average daily on the local tracks in Mumbai alone...sad stats here.

Lol. Do you even know how old Mumbai local really is? It was first built in 1853.

Mumbai Metro is just about 12Km long today. It's brand new.

Google Delhi Metro.

@beijingwalker This should explain why non-Indians are not fit to talk about India. They are still in 1853. They have no clue of what's happening in India.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I think India has sidelined itself for a purpose but now it is feeling the heat. Everyone knows that Kashmir issue is a very old issue which India calls bilateral issue. I don't think China have any intentions to isolate India.China is thinking big.even president Putin played piano in china during obor meeting.this shows that most of the respectable nations are interested and they don't have ill intentions for China.who is asking India to become dependent on China? India can easily find ways to grow it's own economy by using this obor concept.nobody is hostile but India is thinking about the land! Kashmir problem exists since 1947.how can we solve it suddenly? We never criticized India when they carried out construction work in their part of Kashmir.if we want to do something in our Kashmir,than what's the problem? It's not military project.it is just a project to make sophisticated infrastructure and boost economy.one of the problems for India is that it's friend Russia is becoming best friend of China and they are enjoying it. India must look at other countries and how they are responding to China.they are all enjoying this project.no hostility. Even Americans was present.India must accept China as a friend rather than enemy.

 

[beijingwalker]

Is this particular Indian poster thinks that India will catch up with China in 5-10 years or all Indians here share the same opinion?

 

[third eye]

Not at all. The line below sums up India's POV.

“No country can accept a project that ignores its core concerns on sovereignty and territorial integrity,” Baglay said.

While on one hand China resents what India does in AP yet it expects India to join a project that passes through a region which India claims as its. Why does china object to road development in AP and / or even the visit of DL to that region of India ?

China cannot have a set of rules for itself & another for India .

The bottom line is that having surplus funds China is doing to Pak what the US did to Iraq . US contractors made millions in reviving the nation ( its a diff point that Iraq only went from bad to worse). The US got its money back.

Infrastructure is dependent on two things - Funds & real estate ( land) to construct it on. Nations are gladly parting with their land and accepting debts for China to create infra using Chinese companies enjoying tax holidays . What we have here is a one sided business model where :

China extends loans to nations who pay Chinese companies to create infra on their land.
China gets its money back while the host nation is left holding the baby with the onus to repay debts.
The host nation incurs yet more expenses to keep the tenuous line of communication created by China open.
The host nation exposes itself to multiple detractors who now have the option to choose any vulnerable point. Each hit gives immense political & media mileage.

Example:

The Siachen imbroglio will never solve itself. Pak will never be able to take the heights India holds. The reason why it does not sign on the map indicating the AGPL is that it will then validate India's position on the glacier.

The same applies to the route in question. Joining it would validate Pak's accession of disputed territory to China.

Pak is welcome to mortgage generations to come .

 

[Pakistan First]

BOTTOM LINE:

China is going ahead with it's OBOR plan. India can whine as much as it wants and China clearly doesn't seem to give a Fu@% about India and it's whining.

 

[rcrmj]

Who wants to miss one of the worlds largest market. The main aim of China with OBOR is to further develop it's export driven economy. Their total exports to the west are declining they are looking for new farming grounds.

do you even know the idea to be the worlds leading market? India is nowhere near to be the world's leading market, as you disposable income is pathetic, so as the Snapchat CEO agrees

a city with 8 million people like HK consumes more classic middle-class income goods than your 1.3 billion people do

There is a 5 times difference between India and China today.

By 2030, it would have fallen to about 2 to 2.5 times.

By 2040, it would be about the same.

By 2050, India would have surpassed China while continuing to maintain twice the growth for the next 20 to 30 years after 2050.

You are completely ignoring India's potential.

Ethopia has that potential too```but taking the fact that they are not as deluded and big mouth as Indian, I reckon they'd achieve their 'potential' better than India

Lol. Do you even know how old Mumbai local really is? It was first built in 1853.

Mumbai Metro is just about 12Km long today. It's brand new.

Google Delhi Metro.

@beijingwalker This should explain why non-Indians are not fit to talk about India. They are still in 1853. They have no clue of what's happening in India.

I have been to India many times, you cant fool me with one or two pictures, even your best city's infrastructure is quite awfal according to international standard, dirty, lack of detail and bad management. its always a struggle when commute in India with public transport system, fact