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Is China losing Taiwan?

We have to agree that Taiwan is of strategic interest to the region. And the discussion of Taiwan in here (PDF) tends to be mitigated.

Certainly, Taiwan is of great strategic interest to China, hence, the One China policy that almost the entire globe recognizes. There could not be a stronger political expression than this.

And China defines Taiwan (along with other integral parts of the PRC) as a core national security issue which cannot be questioned.

Frankly, any move to separate Taiwan from the PRC as an independent political entity is a casus belli.

There may not be too many crazies to try China's will and Japan may be one of those few crazies, as its recent history has proven.

What is different today may not be Japan, but China. You may repeat certain historical acts, but the result will certainly be different.

That's a promise China makes.
 
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Nihonjin believes Japan would come to TW's aid in case China would use force to take the island back. :azn:
After 2 mushroom clouds and still haven't learned a thing. :coffee:

Well they have learnt not to mess with uncle sam, no more and no less.
That is about the only thing japanese regret; not as much of what they have done to others than getting uncle sam involved.
No guilty feeling or shame whatsoever.
 
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Taiwan’s Ma Ying-jeou is learning a very valuable lesson the hard way: If you want to cozy up to China, it’s best not to be too Chinese about it.

The point is being driven home by hundreds of thousands of student protesters, enraged by the Taiwanese president’s attempt to enact a trade pact with China in the dark of night. The deal to open up the island’s service industries is controversial enough. But when Ma reneged on a promise to allow a clause-by-clause review before implementing it, he infuriated the island’s youth. Ma seems to have forgotten he’s running a democracy, not a Communist Party precinct.

This nascent battle between students and Ma’s ruling Kuomintang Party is about more than bank branches and beauty parlors. It’s about where Taiwan intends to position itself in the tug of war between Xi Jinping’s China and Barack Obama’s United States for influence in Asia.

No doubt Xi and Obama never expected Taiwan to flare up as an issue between them this year. In his almost six years as president, Ma has focused intently on improving ties with the mainland. But the students who last month stormed Taiwan’s Cabinet compound for the first time in history demonstrated the limits and unappreciated consequences of that policy. Although not exactly an Arab Spring, this “Sunflower Movement” suggests the calm across the Taiwan Strait that Beijing and Washington took for granted may officially be over.

Ma should shelve the China deal for now. His argument that backing out would undermine Taiwan’s economy and international credibility pales in comparison to the need to preserve the island’s hard-won democracy. Yes, China is Taiwan’s largest trading partner and Ma’s economy has been hit hard by the demise of the personal computer, on which the island largely bet its future. Clearly, alienating Beijing carries costs.

But so does a policy that depends on China’s goodwill. Taiwan’s sophisticated economy has more in common with those of the U.S. and Japan than China, and it should ink more free-trade pacts with developed nations, like the one recently signed with New Zealand. Its human capital, infrastructure and financial resources give Taiwan the leverage to move up the value-added ladder in the search for the next game-changing technology. That’s the only way Taiwan is going to maintain or improve its per capita income of about $39,000 — not by selling TVs and PCs to Chinese.

Ma’s bigger misstep was assuming his people would go along quietly with his Politburo-esque maneuver. Young Taiwanese appear to be mulling a very different future, one that shares the values espoused by the opposition Democratic Progressive Party. Are they proud of their Chinese heritage? Sure. But that doesn’t mean they’re prepared to give up freedoms and rights that still remain a dream on the mainland.

The Communist Party’s subjugation of its own citizens and overreach in Hong Kong is feeding the movement. Young Taiwanese have watched as China has backtracked on pledges to allow Hong Kongers to elect their own leaders. Beijing’s attempts to impose vaguely written anti-sedition laws and patriotic education, and to clamp down on the city’s freewheeling press, are equally unnerving. China should be learning from Hong Kong’s civil liberties and first-world financial system, not the other way around.

Taiwanese have to wonder what Beijing might try if Ma got his way and effectively merged the two economies. Trade pacts with China can involve political control as much as economics: Just as oil gives Russia undue influence over Ukraine, China’s trade brawn gives its vast leverage from Indonesia to Nigeria. If it’s displeased by events in Taipei, Xi could just cut off the flow of business to Taiwan.

Already racked by geopolitical crises from Ukraine to North Korea, the world doesn’t need a new cold war between China and Taiwan. But Ma’s miscalculation provides a chance for him to start fresh. He should try harder to sell his vision for expanding the 2010 Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement that led to this controversial services deal. Where differences emerge, he should tweak the pact accordingly. In case Ma forgot, that’s how democracy works.


Is China losing Taiwan? | The Japan Times

The Chinese need to act very carefully,if they are serious in annexing Taiwan
 
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Whether Taiwan comes back or lost we feel the same comfortable feelings for we are the same people not even speak same language.
 
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LOL we defeated Japan in WW2 and grabbed their territory like Manchuria and Taiwan. Now their empire is only Ryukyu islands and Hokkaido. Funny an emperor without an empire is just a king.

As PLA grows more and more powerful our territory gets bigger and bigger while neighbors like Japan and Vietnam lose control over East China Sea and South China Sea. Our ADIZ and platform 981 are just the beginning.

How miserable it must be to be an enemy of China knowing that you and your family will likely be vaporized by a Chinese nuclear weapon during your lifetime. Just another statistic on our military scorecard.
 
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LOL we defeated Japan in WW2 and grabbed their territory like Manchuria and Taiwan. Now their empire is only Ryukyu islands and Hokkaido. Funny an emperor without an empire is just a king.

Here is an admission that China holds / covets areas that are not its own.

Going by this , what's the grudge if arunachal which China calls Southern Tibet is with India ?
 
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Here is an admission that China holds / covets areas that are not its own.

Going by this , what's the grudge if arunachal which China calls Southern Tibet is with India ?
No grudge from me. You have the military power, then you own it. Soon USA will be too weak to contain China. Then our 3000 nuclear warheads will bring us all the territory and slave labor our empire needs.
 
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Taiwan is part of China. Taiwanese speaka Mandarin just as Austrians speaka German. :bounce: Which countries recognize Taiwan? Almost nobody. No country will ever sell a single fighter jet, a single warship, a single submarine to Taiwan. Let's see how long Taiwan's military hardware can last.
 
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Here is an admission that China holds / covets areas that are not its own.

Going by this , what's the grudge if arunachal which China calls Southern Tibet is with India ?

And your post is an admission of your poor knowledge of Asian history.
 
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do you really think this is the proper place to show your ignorance ? stupid indians

Lost ?
When did China have Taiwan ?
Please remember that this is no so-called "India" and "Indian" in the world.
Only Andhra, Assam, Chandigarh, Orissa, Gujarat, Karnataka, Meghalaya. . . Etc.
They do not belong to the "India" this country, they just your former colonial masters land,the colonists gone, doesn't mean that Belong to u so-called "India". Oh, yes, Andaman Islands more should be independent

:coffee:Don't provoke others, if you do not have the capital.
 
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Please remember that this is no so-called "India" and "Indian" in the world.
Only Andhra, Assam, Chandigarh, Orissa, Gujarat, Karnataka, Meghalaya. . . Etc.
They do not belong to the "India" this country, they just your former colonial masters land,the colonists gone, doesn't mean that Belong to u so-called "India". Oh, yes, Andaman Islands more should be independent

:coffee:Don't provoke others, if you do not have the capital.

Hmm..

You are sounding incoherent
 
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Please remember that this is no so-called "India" and "Indian" in the world.
Only Andhra, Assam, Chandigarh, Orissa, Gujarat, Karnataka, Meghalaya. . . Etc.
They do not belong to the "India" this country, they just your former colonial masters land,the colonists gone, doesn't mean that Belong to u so-called "India". Oh, yes, Andaman Islands more should be independent

:coffee:Don't provoke others, if you do not have the capital.

Its good to know that you know some of the Indian states...Otherwise most of the China people even do not spell the state name properly...This is a good thing in PDF..every ones gets to know about other nations..

Anyway, Indian in PDF are always in provoked mode as we are always attacked...So never mind..we are always prepared for you..
 
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