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is Bengal tiger bigger than Siberian?

kazirangan tiger frequently kill rhino & elephants, killing a kodiak bear doesn't mean that siberian are powerfull
Rhino and elephant calves yes, full grown adults, no, just not possible :what:!!

Siberian in captivity tends to grow very large but in wild they rarely exceed 220 kg mark,probably because of lost of habitat, latest study shows that Siberian tiger are ranging between 180 to 190 kg for male with few 230+ kg giants in wild,compare this to average male from central & north india especially from nepal & kaziranga that are well above 300 kg, i will post a link later of the study

here are some giants from india estimated to between between 280 & 320+kg

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140kg avg. Sumatran tiger vs 260kg avg. bengal tiger vs 306kg avg. siberian tiger
 
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Lots of great pics of pretty kitties. :cheesy:

AFAIK, The Siberian Tiger is bigger on average as compared to the Bengal Tiger. The Bengals are considered more aggressive only because they live in much closer proximity to humans and often hunt animals farmers may be raising and come into conflict with humans. Siberian Tigers by contrast, generally live in almost total isolation from humans and avoid contact with people at all cost. They are a more solitary and shy cat.

Btw, last year I got an automatic phone call from my local police saying, "Stay indoors! There is a mountain lion sighting in your area!" It was true and the lion actually roamed about my town, lost, and was caught on CCTV cameras from banks, the local courthouse, etc.

http://balancedecology.org/mountainlionwebsite/MountainLionItems/ML1.jpg
 
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Rhino and elephant calves yes, full grown adults, no, just not possible :what:!!




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140kg avg. Sumatran tiger vs 260kg avg. bengal tiger vs 306kg avg. siberian tiger

there some gore pic i cant post but here are some few

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adult rhino killed buy sub adult tigers in kaziranga probably 3 year old

i cant poist the pics but here some accounts

"It was a fight that even surprised the Forest officials of Similipal Tiger Reserve (STR). A duel between a tiger and an elephant in which the big cat prevailed. The tiger reserve rarely has witnessed such incidents in the past although tigers are known to kill elephant calves. Every year, two or three calves are hunted by the tigers in the reserve."

Tiger kills mother, baby elephant - Elephant News

_"A 20-year-old female elephant has been killed by a tiger in the Corbett Tiger Reserve (CTR), a forest official said.

The half-eaten body of the pachyderm was found by a forest patrolling team on Friday morning, Uttarakhand Chief Wildlife Warden Srikant Chandola said."

‘Rare incident'

“The killing of elephant calves by a tiger is a common incident in jungles, but this is a very rare incident when the tiger has attacked and killed an adolescent elephant,” he added.

Tiger kills elephant in Corbett Reserve - The Hindu

"In a rare incident recently a tiger is reported to have killed a tusker in the Eravikulam National Park near Munnar, intriguing forest officials and wildlife enthusiasts alike, says a report in the Indian Express.

For tigers have never been known to attack elephants — let alone kill them — being physically no match for the pachyderms. Perhaps, this was a territorial feud — common in the wilds — and the tusker presumably was ailing and weak. Yet it’s hard to imagine a tiger taking on an elephant and besting it."

http://www.wildlifewatch.in/news/india/1644.html

Of all the land carnivores, the tiger is the only species that has been known to charge and take down a full-grown male elephant, one-on-one. The killing of the elephant was called "Death by a Thousand Claws" by Colonel Kesri Singh. The killing happened for centuries in Asia, especially in Indochina, where elephants used to be utilized in military as weapons. Minor ethnic tribes, who are specialized in capturing and training elephants, have the traditions of testing captured male elephants by pressing one against a tiger. If an elephant survives the fight, it is considered ideal for battles. Today, however, due to the depletion of both species, these extraordinary confrontations become exceedingly rare and are hardly ever witnessed by humans in the wild (nor, hopefully, in captivity).

http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Tiger

Though other jungle inhabitants seldom interfere with an elephant, a hungry tiger will not hesitate to attack a solitary animal. The tiger will never let go an opportunity to prey upon calves and juveniles. J.C. Daniel in his book, The Asian Elephant, gives a number of recorded instances of tiger predating even upon full-grown elephants. Col Kesri Singh, in his book: The Tiger Of Rajasthan, has given an instance of a fight between a tiger and a big tusker in Assam. "...Some three or four years ago a tiger, having killed a baby elephant, was attacked by a tusker. Instead of trying to get clean away the tiger came at the elephant from the flank or rear, and having got on to his back raked and tore at him with his claws. The fight went on for a long time, the tusker apparently trying to dislodge the tiger by running under and against trees. He seems to have succeeded in this at least once, but only for the tiger to recover and return to the attack...In the morning the area was examined and the story reconstructed from the copious signs left about the area. The aggressor had had the best of it, for the party found the remains of the elephant calf and the dead tuskers huge bulk, atrociously torn, but the tiger had disappeared."

"Death by a Thousand Cuts".
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Tigress kills elephant

http://onlypunjab.com/fullstory2k5-insight-news-status-29-newsID-6008.html

An elephant is suspected to have died of wounds inflicted by the same tigress that attacked a man at the Corbett National Park in Uttaranchal.

Park officials confirmed that the pachyderm, which was found dead Friday night, had fought with the tigress that had mauled a man at the Dhikala tourist complex on the previous night.

According to a park official, "The elephant had been spotted with wounds, visibly inflicted by a tiger about five or six days back.

"We were keeping track of the animal. Finally we found him lying dead in the forest quite close to the Dhikala complex."

The elephant was found to have suffered multiple wounds on its trunk and it was amply evident that these were sustained in a battle with the tigress, which is suspected to have also suffered wounds.

The tigress had been spotted with two cubs. These cubs are believed to have been with the mother during the fight with the elephant.

Park officials were of the view that the elephant was unable to eat on account of the wounds on its trunk and therefore turned quite weak.

Asked why officials did not tranquillise the elephant to treat its wounds, Uttaranchal chief wildlife warden C.K. Chandola told IANS: "It is usually preferred that animals living in their natural habitat find their own natural means to heal themselves.

"No one thought that the wounds would prove fatal," he said.

"Special teams had been detailed to keep track of the movements of the tigress to assess the nature and kind of wounds it had received in the fight with the elephant."

While there is no evidence of the big cat turning into a man-eater, Chandola did not rule out the possibility.

"Irreparable wounds or old age and infirmity can force a tiger to turn to man-eating. We have to keep a strict vigil."

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Tiger attacks and injures elephant badly.

Elephant Polo 1995!

Scroll down to around last picture and caption

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Himalaya - India
Tiger kills man, injures elephant
Dalgaon, Nov 29, 2006. A Royal Bengal tiger which sneaked from the Orang National Park on the night of November 24 last and later killed one Niranjan Das (50) of village Nichilamari under Borchala police outpost also attacked a trained elephant of the Park. Briefing this, DFO, Wildlife informed that the elephant named "Indra" who was engaged alongwith three other domestic elephants of the Park to force the tiger back to the forest area, was seriously injured by the 'man-eater'. The team of forest guards and elephants were compelled to retreat after the severe attack. Tranquiliser specialists also failed to bring the man-eater under control. But to the utter relief of the Park authority and the villagers, the 'man-eater' returned to the Park in the afternoon of November 26 last, ascertained by the foot prints of the animal, the source added.

http://www.resourceshimalaya.org/contemporary_issues/india/tiger_kills_man_injures_elephant.htm

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Frank Leslie's popular monthly, Volume 45, 1879,
edited by Frank Leslie, New York: Frank Leslie's Publishing House.

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Elephants are very fearful of tigers, and always show more or less alarm when in their vicinity. I have known many an elephant to turn tail and run away when near the tiger's lair, and sometimes all the efforts of the mahout failed to check them. Not infrequently they run under the limbs of trees in their flight, and the howdah and its occupants

are brushed off. Major R , of Lucknow, was killed in this way during a tiger-hunt in the Pumeah district. A tiger charged his elephant, and the latter ran away. As it passed under a tree the howdah was swept off, and the major and his servant were both killed by the fall.

When in the neighborhood of a tiger the elephant generally holds his trunk high in the air, as it is his most vulnerable point, and he is anxious to protect it from injury. In a fight with a tiger the elephant uses his trunk very little, through fear of injury, but endeavors to trample his enemy under foot or pierce him with his tusks. Once let an elephant get his heavy foot fairly on a tiger, and the fight is soon over; it is all up with the yellow-coated thief -or, rather, it is all down with him. But in the majority of fights between them, the tiger generally gets the best of it, or would do so, if man did not come to the elephant's aid. In one of our hunts in the northeast we had one elephant killed by a tiger-or, rather, he was so badly hurt that he died the next day-and another very severely wounded. Even the elephant's thick hide cannot resist the tiger's claws; and as for his teeth, they have been known to make an impression on a plate of iron.

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all of this pic are of b 2 compared to a captive size Siberian tiger weighing around 305 with thick fur coat, B 2 was father of bamera i posted above & he was well above 280 kg mark

i can only found few Siberian tiger in wild who are freaking huge this is one of them
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this Siberian tiger easily weight between 320 & 350, never seen such a beast, lost of habitat had surely lead to extinction such magnificent animal
 

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Lots of great pics of pretty kitties. :cheesy:

AFAIK, The Siberian Tiger is bigger on average as compared to the Bengal Tiger. The Bengals are considered more aggressive only because they live in much closer proximity to humans and often hunt animals farmers may be raising and come into conflict with humans. Siberian Tigers by contrast, generally live in almost total isolation from humans and avoid contact with people at all cost. They are a more solitary and shy cat.

Btw, last year I got an automatic phone call from my local police saying, "Stay indoors! There is a mountain lion sighting in your area!" It was true and the lion actually roamed about my town, lost, and was caught on CCTV cameras from banks, the local courthouse, etc.

http://balancedecology.org/mountainlionwebsite/MountainLionItems/ML1.jpg
yep Siberian tiger as a whole are bigger than Bengal but if u exclude tiger from sunder ban & south India, north india tiger are probably the biggest cats roaming the planet
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these are some latest studies this is probably because they are few amur tiger left in wild, an average Bengal tiger from north india,nepal & bhutan easily match the biggest siberian & even out class them & remember the record holder for biggest tiger is a Bengal from central india not Siberian
 
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If there is fight between tiger vs lion... who will win. ..
 
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depends on each individual...but 7 out of 10 fights, tigers will win according to experts.
exactly. ..there is a incident somewhere else in EU, i think... tiger killed a lion in single blow...
 
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Leopards..these cats are intelligent than the big 2. Even will survive in the periphary of human settlements..opportunistic - eating, if not scavenging. Some crazy people keep Thendua(Leopard) as pets, rare though(and illegal).
 
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