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[yavar]

Iran Panha Co 4th gen Saba-248 dual engine 4 blade helicopter ساخت بالگرد صبا ۲۴۸

 

[VEVAK]

QAHER F-313 FLAYING IN YEAR 96 GENERAL DEHQAN SAID
WE WAITING WHEN ITS FLY AND SEE LONG FACE OF THOSE ONE SAID ITS FAKE YAVAR I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I THINK

اهمیتی نداره چه موتوری داخلش باشه مهم اینه که کاربری داشته باشه موتور جی 85 هم موتور خوبی هست و تا الان هم امتحانشو پس داده پس لطفا ایرادای بنی اسراییلی نگیرید تا دیروز که پلاستیکی بود حالا موتوراگه پرواز کنه و مثلا از اف18 هم بهتر باشه مثلا شما میگید نه این بدرد نمیخوره چون حتما باید بهتر از اف22 و35 و تی50 باشه نکنه انتظار داری موتور بشقاب پرنده توش بزارن تا شما راضی شی

You don't know much about anything!

Building an aircraft that looks nice but has 0 to limited military application is a mistake! And unless they make major design changes & modification to the Q-313 that they showed that aircraft will have limited capabilities & limited applications and other than a technology demonstrator it will be nothing but a waist of time & money!

J-85 is NOT a good engine! And an fighter jet powered by a single J-85 with the Q-313 design will not be able to go faster than 750km/h & will have a cruise speed of under 600km/h
For you to understand what that means the slow moving Su-25 that's practically a flying tank has a max speed of over 900km/h and can carry far more weapons

J-85 is a simple cheep & an extremely weak engine NOT a GOOD engine!

Also the Q-313 is not going to be a stealth fighter! Yes it has reduced RCS but so does the Saegheh!

Saegheh in every aspect from speed, payload, maneuverability, max G force,.... is a superior platform!

Unless Iran plans on producing them at a rate of 200 per year for the next 20 years they will give Iran no advantage against any country in the region! And even then Iran would still be better off building 100 Saegheh per year using 2 J-85 engines over that ridicules fighter they showed!

Instead of wasting time and money on that ridicules Q-313 Iran should have been working on adding built in IRST, Helmet Mounted HUD, Glass cockpit, Air refueling capability, PGM capabilities, upgraded radar & sensors, reduced RCS cockpit & canopy, vectored thrust, upgraded weapons & weapons systems to it's current Saegheh platform!
And then the next step for a platform should have been building a larger version using a larger turbofan engines!

Reduced RCS will not save you from ground sensors nor will it save you from IR missile it's slow speed means ground early warning systems will convey your position to interceptors with IRST's IR missiles and due to your slow speed your aircraft will be intercepted & downed using IR missiles long before you get to your target!

And the only thing the Q-313 will be able to intercept are helicopters & slow UAV's for it wont even be fast enough to intercept a Tomahawk cruise missile let alone a fighter jet!

So again other than use as a jet trainer the Q-313 is USELESS and UNLESS Iran builds a larger twin engine super sonic version with major design changes, that aircraft is NOTHING but a wait of TIME & MONEY! And anyone that tells you different doesn't have the slightest clue of what he or she is talking about!

 

[WarFariX]

so 9 march has passed ..where is qaher ?

 

[AmirPatriot]

so 9 march has passed ..where is qaher ?

He said before end of Iranian year, which is 20th of March.

 

[WarFariX]

He said before end of Iranian year, which is 20th of March.

iranian year what is that..heard it for the first time..my apologies

 

[AmirPatriot]

iranian year what is that..heard it for the first time..my apologies

Iranian new year is different to the Gregorian calendar. Our new year is on the 20th of March.

 

[WarFariX]

 

[raptor22]

iranian year what is that..heard it for the first time..my apologies

Iranian Calendar

 

[ashool]

You don't know much about anything!

Building an aircraft that looks nice but has 0 to limited military application is a mistake! And unless they make major design changes & modification to the Q-313 that they showed that aircraft will have limited capabilities & limited applications and other than a technology demonstrator it will be nothing but a waist of time & money!

J-85 is NOT a good engine! And an fighter jet powered by a single J-85 with the Q-313 design will not be able to go faster than 750km/h & will have a cruise speed of under 600km/h
For you to understand what that means the slow moving Su-25 that's practically a flying tank has a max speed of over 900km/h and can carry far more weapons

J-85 is a simple cheep & an extremely weak engine NOT a GOOD engine!

Also the Q-313 is not going to be a stealth fighter! Yes it has reduced RCS but so does the Saegheh!

Saegheh in every aspect from speed, payload, maneuverability, max G force,.... is a superior platform!

Unless Iran plans on producing them at a rate of 200 per year for the next 20 years they will give Iran no advantage against any country in the region! And even then Iran would still be better off building 100 Saegheh per year using 2 J-85 engines over that ridicules fighter they showed!

Instead of wasting time and money on that ridicules Q-313 Iran should have been working on adding built in IRST, Helmet Mounted HUD, Glass cockpit, Air refueling capability, PGM capabilities, upgraded radar & sensors, reduced RCS cockpit & canopy, vectored thrust, upgraded weapons & weapons systems to it's current Saegheh platform!
And then the next step for a platform should have been building a larger version using a larger turbofan engines!
HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DID NOT?

Reduced RCS will not save you from ground sensors nor will it save you from IR missile it's slow speed means ground early warning systems will convey your position to interceptors with IRST's IR missiles and due to your slow speed your aircraft will be intercepted & downed using IR missiles long before you get to your target!


And the only thing the Q-313 will be able to intercept are helicopters & slow UAV's for it wont even be fast enough to intercept a Tomahawk cruise missile let alone a fighter jet!

So again other than use as a jet trainer the Q-313 is USELESS and UNLESS Iran builds a larger twin engine super sonic version with major design changes, that aircraft is NOTHING but a wait of TIME & MONEY! And anyone that tells you different doesn't have the slightest clue of what he or she is talking about!

let it show up and after that make judgement plz
you speak about it like you are one of those who make qaher . who said its one engine maybe 2 .su 25 is 2 engine too
and did you think they are not too stupid to making fighter with max speed 700 kmh . i dont think so .in our condition (iran) no one goingto sell us anything or helping us to make one so the only choice is we ourselves do something and this is good starting . second are you iranian ?
and i dont say qaher engine is j85 i said j85 is good engine and it is . dont expect we are in first try to make fighter going to make UFO( BOSHGAB PARANDE)
with laser canon .
third

how do you know they didnt upgrade saeqes

 

[WordsMatter]

Photoshop image. Please don't use to imply it's fly-worthy.

 

[WarFariX]

Photoshop image. Please don't use to imply it's fly-worthy.

perhaps some burnol may do sir

 

[WarFariX]

by tommorow we must get QAHER news .....where is itt ..kept us waiting toooooooooooooooooooooooo long @SOHEIL @AmirPatriot

 

[Rukarl]

by tommorow we must get QAHER news .....where is itt ..kept us waiting toooooooooooooooooooooooo long @SOHEIL @AmirPatriot

Who told you we're going to get such news tomorrow bro?

 

[WarFariX]

Who told you we're going to get such news tomorrow bro?

irani new year is coming

 

[Rukarl]

irani new year is coming

I understand, but when did they say they will show anything regarding qaher? They just said it will have its first taxi flight. They should not show it. They should only show it when it is doing its full flights. We don't need another media shitstorm bro.