Iraq's war against IS terrorism | Updates and Discussions

[Al-Kurdi]

That's right, just like of your weaponry ended up in ISIS hands, even German weaponry just a week after it was delivered to Pesh, also the Pesh itself sucks big time you can quit that story here they're not any better then regular untrained IA as we found out.

Last time I remember S.Kurdistan is much bigger today than it was b4 IS entered. Has Iraq expanded their control?

 

[1000]

Kurds also say the same about Arabs leeching off them and their territory. So who is right?

They think they're right, we think we are all based on many things, no courts involved so here's the short answer.

Last time I remember S.Kurdistan is much bigger today than it was b4 IS entered. Has Iraq expanded their control?

Until ISIS decided to attack you and you fled Sinjar + Mosul dam resulting in air strikes and ISOF saving you, that answers the question of Pesh capability. IA and militias are fighting heavier battles in enemy territory, that means land inhabited by non Shiites unlike Kurds who lost friendly areas ( kurdish inhabited ). You see the difference, IA didn't lose areas friendly to them.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Fact is their head of the ground forces, special forces and air force are Kurds. One can say that we planned Iraq's failure all along . Just realized it. 1000 has found an excuse! To add with Barzani harboring sunni tribal leaders and terrorists, he can finally jizz his pants now!

 

[1000]

Fact is their head of the ground forces, special forces and air force are Kurds.

That's why they're so corrupt and untrained, now you found out, ISOF were given a lot of attention from the west giving them good capabilities, not because the commander is Kurd.

One can say that we planned Iraq's failure all along . Just realized it. 1000 has found an excuse! To add with Barzani harboring sunni tribal leaders and terrorists, he can finally jizz his pants now!

If selling your own Yazidi people to ISIS is worth it then theres not much to be proud of here, it's true that Barzani played a dirty game which they're paying for with blood now, ofc they're not the main reason they're just a small contributor.

 

[ResurgentIran]

The power of Hazzy in this forum is astonishing! Look at the havoc he has created in all the threads.
jk lol

 

[Al-Kurdi]

They think they're right, we think we are all based on many things, no courts involved so here's the short answer.



Until ISIS decided to attack you and you fled Sinjar + Mosul dam resulting in air strikes and ISOF saving you, that answers the question of Pesh capability. IA and militias are fighting heavier battles in enemy territory, that means land inhabited by non Shiites unlike Kurds who lost friendly areas ( kurdish inhabited ). You see the difference, IA didn't lose areas friendly to them.

Correction: First the Iraqi army fled Shingal(Sinjar), Mosul dam, simply the entire north, then poorly equipped, unpaid Peshmerga was forced to fill in the massive gaps. To hold this new frontline from Xanaqin all the way to Sinjar was impossible for Peshmerga. And playing heroes wouldn't really stop their advancing. There are many questions why Peshmerga abandoned Shingal. What are the facts here? Iran is the country that opposes Kurdish independence most and feels most threatened about it. They pressured weak unstable PUK(long time ally) to start attack IS, Barzani didn't think IS were stupid enough to attack Peshmerga and start new huge frontline. They weren't but when PUK Peshmerga started attacking IS like in Jalawla and IS started attacking unprepared, poorly equipped KDP Peshmerga in Shingal, Mosul dam and the Nineveh plains.

So according to you sunni Arabs hate Iraq and the Iraqi army?

btw this is from an Assyrian: I remember asking my Assyrian community why Assyrians didn't fight off ISIS when they invaded in Baghdeda, the #1 reply I received was that those Assyrians weren't armed. I then proceeded to ask why they weren't armed and the reply I got was that Baghdad disarmed them.

I actually did research on that and found a scanned Iraqi government document asking everybody of Baghdeda to disarm... After that, all I could think was "how can you be dumb enough to follow that?"

Now what's the reality on the ground? Peshmerga controls the center of Shingal city to Zummar then Mosul dam, still areas left in Nineveh(Assyrians doesn't want to be part of Iraq when S.Kurdistan is independent) to take back then all the way to Kirkuk, then khormatu, jalawla and south of xanaqin all the way to NAFT Khana. I should add that the oil fields in Zummar, Kirkuk has already been attached to the Kurdish pipelines and will remain so. Meanwhile more than 1/3 of Iraq, much more if including S.Kurdistan belongs to IS.

 

[Falcon29]

The power of Hazzy in this forum is astonishing! Look at the havoc he has created in all the threads.
jk lol

Just look at them

They can't agree on anything.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

That's why they're so corrupt and untrained, now you found out, ISOF were given a lot of attention from the west giving them good capabilities, not because the commander is Kurd.


If selling your own Yazidi people to ISIS is worth it then theres not much to be proud of here, it's true that Barzani played a dirty game which they're paying for with blood now, ofc they're not the main reason they're just a small contributor.

In what way are ISOF that good really? I think it's just that they got much more ammo and better equippment than the rest so that they can afford to pray and spray which they STILL do. I have seen recent vids of it.

About the Ezidi thing I agree to be honest. But the main fault isn't on Barzani or Peshmerga, they never controlled Shingal(Sinjar), in fact b4 the war Peshmerga greatest extent in the south west was north of Rabia. The protector of Iraq was meant to protect it and even though Ezidis are in reality Kurds by language, history, culture etc many don't consider them as such due Kurdish Sunni massacres against them in the past. But still that can not be an excuse to just abandon them like they did just runing away leaving them. Peshmerga is not the Iraqi army after all . But thank god YPG managed to come for their aid and opened a dangerous bridge and could escort hundred thousands of them to safety. And Peshmerga allongside with HPG/YPG units did protect the Shingal mountain that was under siege for months where a couple thousand remained. Peshmerga is now recapturing Shingal and I hope that Ezidis will forgive Muslim Kurds and the few of them who don't consider themselves Kurdish re approaches those thoughts.

Just look at them

They can't agree on anything.

akhi I am on your side

 

[Falcon29]

@Al-Kurdi

You are mocking me and joking. You aren't on my side.

 

[1000]

Correction: First the Iraqi army fled Shingal(Sinjar), Mosul dam, simply the entire north, then poorly equipped, unpaid Peshmerga was forced to fill in the massive gaps. To hold this new frontline from Xanaqin all the way to Sinjar was impossible for Peshmerga. And playing heroes wouldn't really stop their advancing. There are many questions why Peshmerga abandoned Shingal. What are the facts here? Iran is the country that opposes Kurdish independence most and feels most threatened about it. They pressured weak unstable PUK(long time ally) to start attack IS, Barzani didn't think IS were stupid enough to attack Peshmerga and start new huge frontline. They weren't but when PUK Peshmerga started attacking IS like in Jalawla and IS started attacking unprepared, poorly equipped KDP Peshmerga in Shingal, Mosul dam and the Nineveh pla
ins.

That's what I just said, Kurds were playing brave warriors whilst they weren't clashing with IS, the first attack resulted in the loss of Sinjar, loss of Mosul dam, ISIS artillery and forces in Arbil province which forced the US to intervene with air strikes or they'd enter Arbil city itself. This showing the capability of your forces which is nothing special.

So according to you sunni Arabs hate Iraq and the Iraqi army?

Many have, many wanted their revolution so they even worked/ignored ISIS, operating in enemy territory is a thousand times harder, you have locals helping and housing the enemy, Kurds have the difficulties operating in Kurdish inhabited land ( friendly territory ), this also explains why Southern Iraq is safe, it's friendly territory to the army, locals aren't housing and helping ISIS.

btw this is from an Assyrian: I remember asking my Assyrian community why Assyrians didn't fight off ISIS when they invaded in Baghdeda, the #1 reply I received was that those Assyrians weren't armed. I then proceeded to ask why they weren't armed and the reply I got was that Baghdad disarmed them.

I actually did research on that and found a scanned Iraqi government document asking everybody of Baghdeda to disarm... After that, all I could think was "how can you be dumb enough to follow that?"

Ok, your point ?

Now what's the reality on the ground? Peshmerga controls the center of Shingal city to Zummar then Mosul dam, still areas left in Nineveh(Assyrians doesn't want to be part of Iraq when S.Kurdistan is independent) to take back then all the way to Kirkuk, then khormatu, jalawla and south of xanaqin all the way to NAFT Khana. I should add that the oil fields in Zummar, Kirkuk has already been attached to the Kurdish pipelines and will remain so. Meanwhile more than 1/3 of Iraq, much more if including S.Kurdistan belongs to IS.

Mosul dam was taken by Iraqis ( ISOF ) as video's show, Jalawla was taken by shi'ite militia Kataib Hezbollah as another video shows, it all shows Kurds barely fought, losing friendly territory ( Kurdish inhabited Sinjar ) for 5 months + is what shows Pesh capability.

You're already having problems with Sunnis, their experience with ISIS and the non existing revolutionary idea is turning them against ISIS, with the other Iraqis (Shi'a) they can end the leeching of KRG, let's see how their stance will be after ISIS, mostly it depends on Sunnis.

In what way are ISOF that good really? I think it's just that they got much more ammo and better equippment than the rest so that they can afford to pray and spray which they STILL do. I have seen recent vids of it.

About the Ezidi thing I agree to be honest. But the main fault isn't on Barzani or Peshmerga, they never controlled Shingal(Sinjar), in fact b4 the war Peshmerga greatest extent in the south west was north of Rabia. The protector of Iraq was meant to protect it and even though Ezidis are in reality Kurds by language, history, culture etc many don't consider them as such due Kurdish Sunni massacres against them in the past. But still that can not be an excuse to just abandon them like they did just runing away leaving them. Peshmerga is not the Iraqi army after all . But thank god YPG managed to come for their aid and opened a dangerous bridge and could escort hundred thousands of them to safety. And Peshmerga allongside with HPG/YPG units did protect the Shingal mountain that was under siege for months where a couple thousand remained. Peshmerga is now recapturing Shingal and I hope that Ezidis will forgive Muslim Kurds and the few of them who don't consider themselves Kurdish re approaches those thoughts.

Training, training is more important, some spray but not many though does that spraying matter, they've proven themselves in holding Baiji refinery whilst under ISIS siege for months, they've retaken ISOF dam, they've proven themselves good enough, it's training not ammo or equipment.

You nationalists massacred your own lot ? lol. Pesh did run away, we've seen the video's, as I explained about Sinjar and dam earlier.

Bahoz are you still pretending you're Jordanian ? everyday another identity.

 

[Falcon29]

@1000

You are just as gullible as him. Nobody took over the refinery besides US forces backed by massive air support. The notion that ISOF conducted operation is propaganda.


And what siege are you talking about? LOL, the two iSis pick up trucks?

 

[Al-Kurdi]

@1000

"That's what I just said, Kurds were playing brave warriors whilst they weren't clashing with IS, the first attack resulted in the loss of Sinjar, loss of Mosul dam, ISIS artillery and forces in Arbil province which forced the US to intervene with air strikes or they'd enter Arbil city itself. This showing the capability of your forces which is nothing special."

PUK Peshmerga did. Fact is Peshmerga placed most of their limited resources on Kirkuk since day one of the IA's retreat, IS couldn't even near it. IS would never have entered Hewler, but they had long rage American artillery that they captured in Mosul that was about to reach a range to hit the airport(to the east). IS accounts on FB started spreading BS that they were about to attack Hewler which made some people starting flee while most were booing at them and laughing at them calling them cowards and that they're lying.

"Many have, many wanted their revolution so they even worked/ignored ISIS, operating in enemy territory is a thousand times harder, you have locals helping and housing the enemy, Kurds have the difficulties operating in Kurdish inhabited land ( friendly territory ), this also explains why Southern Iraq is safe, it's friendly territory to the army, locals aren't housing and helping ISIS. "

You don't think Peshmerga had the same problem? Like in Kirkuk? Or in Zumar, Jalawla etc filled with Sunni Arabs? The threat of Kurds who were also loyal to IS. Most of Peshmergas battles has been on Sunni Arab villages or mixed areas.

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People like Sarhad Qader is what makes Peshmerga special. Not many like him. I saw the BBC version of it.

"Mosul dam was taken by Iraqis ( ISOF ) as video's show, Jalawla was taken by shi'ite militia Kataib Hezbollah as another video shows, it all shows Kurds barely fought, losing friendly territory ( Kurdish inhabited Sinjar ) for 5 months + is what shows Pesh capability.

You're already having problems with Sunnis, their experience with ISIS and the non existing revolutionary idea is turning them against ISIS, with the other Iraqis (Shi'a) they can end the leeching of KRG, let's see how their stance will be after ISIS, mostly it depends on Sunnis."

Mosul dam and it's surrounding areas was taken back by Peshmerga and ISOF backed up by air support as videos show. Jalawla was taken back by PESHMERGA but as usual whenever Peshmerga advances Iraqi media in some way tries to find a way to claim to have been there. Claims to recaptured Shingal, Maxmor villages and so many other cases. It's just pure bullcrap. I have a tons of video evidence.

Sunni Arabs are being trained on Kurdish territory, Sunni Iraqi Arab leaders are having meetings in Hewler plaza hotels, not in Baghdad. They r turning against IS with the support of Kurds. You're blinded into beliving in a united Iraq. And as soon goes shite you point fingers on Kurds, like your kind always has.

there r more than 30 million Kurds and apparently I am this guy called bahoz then you're abu baghdadi

 

[1000]

@1000

"That's what I just said, Kurds were playing brave warriors whilst they weren't clashing with IS, the first attack resulted in the loss of Sinjar, loss of Mosul dam, ISIS artillery and forces in Arbil province which forced the US to intervene with air strikes or they'd enter Arbil city itself. This showing the capability of your forces which is nothing special."

PUK Peshmerga did. Fact is Peshmerga placed most of their limited resources on Kirkuk since day one of the IA's retreat, IS couldn't even near it. IS would never have entered Hewler, but they had long rage American artillery that they captured in Mosul that was about to reach a range to hit the airport(to the east). IS accounts on FB started spreading BS that they were about to attack Hewler which made some people starting flee while most were booing at them and laughing at them calling them cowards and that they're lying.

"Many have, many wanted their revolution so they even worked/ignored ISIS, operating in enemy territory is a thousand times harder, you have locals helping and housing the enemy, Kurds have the difficulties operating in Kurdish inhabited land ( friendly territory ), this also explains why Southern Iraq is safe, it's friendly territory to the army, locals aren't housing and helping ISIS. "

You don't think Peshmerga had the same problem? Like in Kirkuk? Or in Zumar, Jalawla etc filled with Sunni Arabs? The threat of Kurds who were also loyal to IS. Most of Peshmergas battles has been on Sunni Arab villages or mixed areas.

You live in Sweden, no? Then this is a MUST watch.

Dokument utifrån Världens farligaste jobb (2014) Filmer av Dokument utifrån Världens farligaste jobb (2014)

People like Sarhad Qader is what makes Peshmerga special. Not many like him. I saw the BBC version of it.

"Mosul dam was taken by Iraqis ( ISOF ) as video's show, Jalawla was taken by shi'ite militia Kataib Hezbollah as another video shows, it all shows Kurds barely fought, losing friendly territory ( Kurdish inhabited Sinjar ) for 5 months + is what shows Pesh capability.

You're already having problems with Sunnis, their experience with ISIS and the non existing revolutionary idea is turning them against ISIS, with the other Iraqis (Shi'a) they can end the leeching of KRG, let's see how their stance will be after ISIS, mostly it depends on Sunnis."

Mosul dam and it's surrounding areas was taken back by Peshmerga and ISOF backed up by air support as videos show. Jalawla was taken back by PESHMERGA but as usual whenever Peshmerga advances Iraqi media in some way tries to find a way to claim to have been there. Claims to recaptured Shingal, Maxmor villages and so many other cases. It's just pure bullcrap. I have a tons of video evidence.

Sunni Arabs are being trained on Kurdish territory, Sunni Iraqi Arab leaders are having meetings in Hewler plaza hotels, not in Baghdad. They r turning against IS with the support of Kurds. You're blinded into beliving in a united Iraq. And as soon goes shite you point fingers on Kurds, like your kind always has.

I live in Sweden ? don't you see the flag, are you blind or something. You're the one with the Swedish flag here whilst you don't even know Swedish as you told me earlier.

My mosul dam claim is proven by video content, afterwards they let Pesh come to hold it so they can go on another offensive mission, after all the main purpose of ISOF is offensive ops.

Jalawla, just a few old Kurds to be seen

The Arabs trained in Dohuk are to launch the offensive from the North, the main offensive is planned from Southern Mosul. Back to the mountains of Hakkari, Bahoz.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

those hizbullah fuckers entered jalawla like some fucking cockroaches just like they entered tuz xormato outskirts, fact is Peshmerga surrounded all sides of Jalawla except the western side, you could easily see Sadiya to the south.

here u go

Peshmerga even caught several shia militias looting since the moment they entered, in fact that's the only reason they came

 

[Falcon29]

Arguing over who completed operation in Jawala? What's wrong with you guys?