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some rumors about a half million Iranians to be moved into Anbar to replace its sunni poppulation
 
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Iraq: Win One War And Lose Another

February 14, 2016:...While ISIL atrocities against religious minorities gets some publicity, and recognition as war crimes, the similar atrocities by Iran backed Iraqi Shia militias have gone largely unpublicized. That is changing but not fast enough to slow down the killings. The United States and most European governments had adopted the attitude that Christians in Iraq have not been singled out for attack but now the growing mountain of evidence has led a growing number of Western governments to at least admit that Christians and other non-Moslems are under heavy attack from ISIL and Iraqi Shia (usually sponsored by Iran) militias. In 2014 ISIL atrocities against religious minorities like the Yazidis and Christians was noticed by the world media but that attention was temporary and the plight of Christians in Syria and Iraq was largely ignored. The Yazidis were a frequent target because many Moslems, and some Christians, consider the Yazidi pagans and devil worshipers. The Yazidi are Kurds who practice a pre-Christian religion related to the pre-Islamic Zoroastrian religion once common in Iran before Islam and now only found in India. The Yazidis are considered pagans by ISIL and to Moslems pagans must either renounce their beliefs or die. The Kurds have always gotten along better with Yazidis, Christians and other minorities and many of those people fled to the Kurdish north. In 2015 it was the Kurds who recaptured Yazidi territory from ISIL.

Atrocities against Christians is again newsworthy because the Iraqi Shia militias are increasingly attacking Christians in Baghdad. The militias are trying to drive all Christians out of Baghdad and Iraq. The militias are also out to make some money as they systematically seize the homes, businesses and other assets of the departed Christians and sell them off or trade them for something they need. The Iraqi government does nothing save for an occasional press release condemning this behavior. These press releases are to placate foreign aid donors who threaten to reduce aid if the atrocities do not stop. So far few aid donors have acted on these threats. In Baghdad the Shia militia want to emulate ISIL, which has, for the first time in history, killed or driven all Christians from Mosul. Some of these Shia militia have also been accused of going back to their use of death squads against Sunni civilians. There has been some of that but not as much as in 2006-8. That round of sectarian murders was only ended by the forcible disbanding of the Shia militias. This time around the government is so eager to mobilize over 100,000 Shia militiamen that these men are being put on the government payroll -

...Between ISIL and Iran backed Shia militia activity in Baghdad that city accounted for 35 percent of all deaths in January and 61 percent of civilian deaths. Most of the Baghdad civilian deaths were from ISIL terror attacks, meant to get media attention and terrorize the Shia population. A growing number of the civilian deaths in Baghdad (and nationwide) are caused by Shia militias killing suspected Sunni terrorists or simply encouraging Sunnis and non-Moslems to get out of Baghdad (and Iraq) -
 
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Iraq: Win One War And Lose Another

February 14, 2016:...While ISIL atrocities against religious minorities gets some publicity, and recognition as war crimes, the similar atrocities by Iran backed Iraqi Shia militias have gone largely unpublicized. That is changing but not fast enough to slow down the killings. The United States and most European governments had adopted the attitude that Christians in Iraq have not been singled out for attack but now the growing mountain of evidence has led a growing number of Western governments to at least admit that Christians and other non-Moslems are under heavy attack from ISIL and Iraqi Shia (usually sponsored by Iran) militias. In 2014 ISIL atrocities against religious minorities like the Yazidis and Christians was noticed by the world media but that attention was temporary and the plight of Christians in Syria and Iraq was largely ignored. The Yazidis were a frequent target because many Moslems, and some Christians, consider the Yazidi pagans and devil worshipers. The Yazidi are Kurds who practice a pre-Christian religion related to the pre-Islamic Zoroastrian religion once common in Iran before Islam and now only found in India. The Yazidis are considered pagans by ISIL and to Moslems pagans must either renounce their beliefs or die. The Kurds have always gotten along better with Yazidis, Christians and other minorities and many of those people fled to the Kurdish north. In 2015 it was the Kurds who recaptured Yazidi territory from ISIL.

Atrocities against Christians is again newsworthy because the Iraqi Shia militias are increasingly attacking Christians in Baghdad. The militias are trying to drive all Christians out of Baghdad and Iraq. The militias are also out to make some money as they systematically seize the homes, businesses and other assets of the departed Christians and sell them off or trade them for something they need. The Iraqi government does nothing save for an occasional press release condemning this behavior. These press releases are to placate foreign aid donors who threaten to reduce aid if the atrocities do not stop. So far few aid donors have acted on these threats. In Baghdad the Shia militia want to emulate ISIL, which has, for the first time in history, killed or driven all Christians from Mosul. Some of these Shia militia have also been accused of going back to their use of death squads against Sunni civilians. There has been some of that but not as much as in 2006-8. That round of sectarian murders was only ended by the forcible disbanding of the Shia militias. This time around the government is so eager to mobilize over 100,000 Shia militiamen that these men are being put on the government payroll -

...Between ISIL and Iran backed Shia militia activity in Baghdad that city accounted for 35 percent of all deaths in January and 61 percent of civilian deaths. Most of the Baghdad civilian deaths were from ISIL terror attacks, meant to get media attention and terrorize the Shia population. A growing number of the civilian deaths in Baghdad (and nationwide) are caused by Shia militias killing suspected Sunni terrorists or simply encouraging Sunnis and non-Moslems to get out of Baghdad (and Iraq) -


When this war is over we will face againg isis. Fact is Iraq is little iran, nothing more.
 
When this war is over we will face againg isis. Fact is Iraq is little iran, nothing more.
Which war do you mean, Turkey's war against Assad, Turkey's war against the Kurds, or Turkey's war against Russia? Did I leave someone out, it's getting hard to keep track...
 
Which war do you mean, Turkey's war against Assad, Turkey's war against the Kurds, or Turkey's war against Russia? Did I leave someone out, it's getting hard to keep track...

Turkey war against kurds? So why are the Peshmerga with the Turks:-)? Please stop ther you are a joke.
 
some rumors about a half million Iranians to be moved into Anbar to replace its sunni poppulation
It's a barren desert, not even southern iraqis would choose to live there yet alone Iranians. It's pathetic that these rumours are believed by some.

When this war is over we will face againg isis. Fact is Iraq is little iran, nothing more.
No one asked for your opinion, Iraq will still be Iraq, and iran is a strategic ally. Together, we have great influence in the region.

When IS "revolutionaries" came in with Turkish, Barzani, arab and wahabi backing, and the big treason which occurred in the army. All countries were laying back and enjoying the show. The gulf, Turkey and their lap dog Barzani all supported what was going on and hoped that the "revolutionaries" would enter Baghdad.

The west was busy blaming Maliki wile refusing to aid Iraq as they saw IS kill thousands.

It was then when we know who our friends were. The Iranians were the first to be on the ground, organizing the battle fronts. Iranian generals came to see the needs of the newly formed and inexperienced PMF's whomever were the only ones holding the iraqi state from total collapse. General Sulaimani was making lists of the needed weapons and ammunition. Hundreds of truckloads were being shipped directly from Iran, without having to wait for payments or complicated procedures,. The Iranians even started making local funds to collect donations for Iraq's war against IS. Some Iranian women went to giving their own jewellery. That was at a time in which Iranians were hard hit by sanctions, life was hard enough for them already.

All this and just a few decades ago Saddam Hussien launched an agression against iran just as it was hit by a revolution. This agression led to the death of hundreds of thousands from both sides.

And if it were and other country, the hate would have continued and anyone else in Irans place would not lend a hand.

So when you say iran and Iraq. No, neither country is a "puppet" of the other. But they are allies, have aligning interest in the region. They stand for each other as one. Our faith is the same, we have been neighbors ever since we existed, and we don't really care what closet IS-supporters think.

Yes there are Iranians in the battlefront in iraq, every years millions of Iranians and iraqis cross the borders for tourism.

Now, give me one reason I should hate iran and love the Turkish/gulf coaliton.

The glorious Iraqi army in action:
Well someone seems butthurt baghdad wasn't "liberated" by the mujahideen. Selecting a decade old video and presenting it as the fact on the ground.

The iraqi army even after all the treason and the international war which the gulf states and terrorism has launch, has still held together. Just because you don't bother checking your facts on the ground, doesn't mean your lot is winning.

Diyala, Babel, sallahidden, and now recently Ramadi. With hundreds of towns and villages Liberated and tens of thousands of IS fighters killed.

And now IS are trapped in Falujah and starvinf like the rates they are. IS has not been able to achieve any advances in months while each offensive they attempt ends up with dozens of dead rats. In mak-houl mountains, amriyah, Haditha, alas, seniyah. Every day no less than a hundred IS rats are killed due to airstrikes and failed attacks. Meanwhile the cities which supported them lay in ruins.
 
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