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[Saif al-Arab]

don't waste your time he doesn't speak Arabic and if he does the repeating caste will keep repeating

Malik is an Iraqi Shia Arab from Nasiriyah if I recall. He speaks Arabic as I have written with him in Arabic. He is a good user normally he has just been brainwashed by Wilayat al-Faqih propaganda from Iran on certain fronts. He is a brother in humanity, faith and race and I do not like Arab-Arab fighting. We have enough of this already. Almost all Arab users on PDF have great ties and we should continue that.

He seems misguided about Sunni Islam and he is a Shia so he has his believes and that is fine with me. Also if he dislikes certain regimes but then he should be fair and criticize the Iranian regime too and other ones. But this is politics.

Also he told me that he lived in KSA (Rafha) in the 1990's and he has praised the people and country outside of the rulers.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI is a good user too.

Lastly Sunni vs Shia nonsense has no interest for me. I am an ordinary Muslim that wants Muslims and non-Muslims to live in peace like throughout much of Islamic history. I was just telling him that Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) has always been respected by the Muslims of Arabia, Arab world and Muslim world and it is not something that Ahmad ibn Hanbal (ra) started but it is his choice to believe what he wants to believe after all there is freedom of speech on the internet.

 

[KTOOOOM]

Malik is an Iraqi Shia Arab from Nasiriyah if I recall. He speaks Arabic as I have written with him in Arabic. He is a good user normally he has just been brainwashed by Wilayat al-Faqih propaganda from Iran on certain fronts. He is a brother in humanity, faith and race and I do not like Arab-Arab fighting. We have enough of this already. Almost all Arab users on PDF have great ties and we should continue that.

He seems misguided about Sunni Islam and he is a Shia so he has his believes and that is fine with me. Also if he dislikes certain regimes but then he should be fair and criticize the Iranian regime too and other ones. But this is politics.

Also he told me that he lived in KSA (Rafha) in the 1990's and he has praised the people and country outside of the rulers.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI is a good user too.

Lastly Sunni vs Shia nonsense has no interest for me. I am a Muslim. I was just telling him that Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) has always been respected by the Muslims of Arabia, Arab world and Muslim world and it is not something that Ahmed ibn Hanbal (ra) started but it is his choice to believe what he wants to believe after all there is freedom of speech on the internet.

no sane person will believe what he believe i mean he say some really really stupid things with no prove almost all what he say never been written in history let alone the repeating of the same posts over and over

 

[Saif al-Arab]

no sane person will believe what he believe i mean he say some really really stupid things with no prove almost all what he say never been written in history let alone the repeating of the same posts over and over

I don't know what he is saying on other occasions. Also if he says something that you, I or others disagree with we can argue and prove him wrong. That's it. No need for any hatred here. He is a fellow human, Muslim and Arab.

He might write bullshit (granted I have seen this before too) but then just counter it or ignore it. Historical facts are historical facts. Him posting something else here that has nothing to do with ground realities won't change anything.

If he wants to hate every non-Shia then that's his problem. I don't hate any Muslim group. Or Christians. Or Jews. Or Buddhists etc. It is his fault that he has such a poisonous mentality that he hates all 1.3 billion Sunnis or all person x or y because some people that belong to those groups have done bad things in Iraq. Shias in Iraq are not innocent either. Nobody in wars/conflicts is that.

I have many Shia Arab and non-Shia Arab friends from KSA and elsewhere and most Shia's are definitely our brothers and sisters and good Muslims and people. Same with most Sunnis and most every other people.

This nonsense only happens on the internet in reality must people get along and do not care about sect at all. Youth in KSA do not care outside of a minority.

Atheism is growing because people get frustrated with brother killing brother for such silly reason can you imagine!

Anyway I have to depart for now.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Malik is an Iraqi Shia Arab from Nasiriyah if I recall. He speaks Arabic as I have written with him in Arabic. He is a good user normally he has just been brainwashed by Wilayat al-Faqih propaganda from Iran on certain fronts. He is a brother in humanity, faith and race and I do not like Arab-Arab fighting. We have enough of this already. Almost all Arab users on PDF have great ties and we should continue that.

He seems misguided about Sunni Islam and he is a Shia so he has his believes and that is fine with me. Also if he dislikes certain regimes but then he should be fair and criticize the Iranian regime too and other ones. But this is politics.

Also he told me that he lived in KSA (Rafha) in the 1990's and he has praised the people and country outside of the rulers.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI is a good user too.

Lastly Sunni vs Shia nonsense has no interest for me. I am an ordinary Muslim that wants Muslims and non-Muslims to live in peace like throughout much of Islamic history. I was just telling him that Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) has always been respected by the Muslims of Arabia, Arab world and Muslim world and it is not something that Ahmad ibn Hanbal (ra) started but it is his choice to believe what he wants to believe after all there is freedom of speech on the internet.

There is no problem between Sunnis and shiite.

I just commented on the thought of the four Khulafa'a.

أنا عربي طائي واعرف بالعربية اكثر منك يا كتوم وانا من مدينة امير المومنين مدينة النجف الاشرف بكل فخر.

بعدين تعليقتي كانت على مسالة الخلفاء الاربعة فقلت ان اهل السنة لم يعترفوا به خليفة رابعا راشدا الا في زمن الامم احمد بن حنبل هذه حقيقة وهي ان اهل السنة بقوا اكثر من قرنين لا يعترفون به خليفة رابعا بل ان بعضهم استنكروا .من الامام احمد الحاقه بالخلفاء ( .الراشدين(

 

[KTOOOOM]

There is no problem between Sunnis and shiite.

I just commented on the thought of the four Khulafa'a.

أنا عربي طائي واعرف بالعربية اكثر منك يا كتوم وانا من مدينة امير المومنين مدينة النجف الاشرف بكل فخر.

بعدين تعليقتي كانت على مسالة الخلفاء الاربعة فقلت ان اهل السنة لم يعترفوا به خليفة رابعا راشدا الا في زمن الامم احمد بن حنبل هذه حقيقة وهي ان اهل السنة بقوا اكثر من قرنين لا يعترفون به خليفة رابعا بل ان بعضهم استنكروا .من الامام احمد الحاقه بالخلفاء ( .الراشدين(

اولا لغتك العربيه رديئه وسيئه جدا ولا تقارن لغتي بلغتك انا عربي قح من قحطان اول من تكلم العربيه وفتقت على لساننا. النجف عندنا مثل اي مدينه اخرى نحن المسلمون نقدس ثلاث الكعبه والمسجد النبوي والقدس اما النجف او الكوفه او قم فلم تقدس في القران ولا سنة نبيه وانا من مدينه الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ومنبع الاسلام ومحشر الناس يوم القيامه

 

[Malik Alashter]

اولا لغتك العربيه رديئه وسيئه جدا ولا تقارن لغتي بلغتك انا عربي قح من قحطان اول من تكلم العربيه وفتقت على لساننا. النجف عندنا مثل اي مدينه اخرى نحن المسلمون نقدس ثلاث الكعبه والمسجد النبوي والقدس اما النجف او الكوفه او قم فلم تقدس في القران ولا سنة نبيه وانا من مدينه الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ومنبع الاسلام ومحشر الناس يوم القيامه

بسمه تعالى ومن أهل المدينة مردوا على النفاق لا تعلمهم نحن نعلمهم الآية

كونك من اهل المدينة لا يعني لي شيء اكثر من انك من المنافقين

نحن طيء يا جاهل اعرف من طيء قبل ان تتكلم.

 

[SALMAN F]

Of course not as only non-Muslims with an agenda do that. Besides they were crushed and were irrelevant in the larger history of the region.

Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Tamimi did no crimes whatsoever. He merely voiced his opposition against the ills that had developed in the Najd region of Arabia where people went astray from Islam. He was not a military man.

He was a reformer of the time which even Western historians agree with. Nothing more.

Ibn Saud was a military figure and had/has nothing to do with Islam let alone Sunni Islam. His conquests were solely about gaining power. Nothing to do with Islam at all.

Nonsense. Most were local Shia Arabs.

Socialism did not exist back then. Not sure what you are talking about here Salman?. No, the Abbasid Caliphate was ruled by Arab Caliphs, Islam was the religion, Arabic the official language and Arab culture etc was dominant. Only at the end did Arabized Turks/Mamluks play a role and that was mostly in the military sector as the Arab elites back then were more busy with the pleasures of life (architecture, poetry, being patron of the arts, science) than fighting. At least compared to earlier times. Hence the many splendid places and historical buildings built from Toledo in Spain to Aden in Yemen.

That's why they started importing slaves (Mamluks) to begin with because they did not bother to fight after creating the biggest empires in history (until the very short-lived Mongol empire and later the British, Spanish and Russian colonial empires a few centuries ago).

Robbery was popular all over the ME back then and is to this day in places like Afghanistan, Central Asia etc. Pillaging was done by almost all conquerors back then when conquering new territory or when encountering rich caravans. Caravans back the were what money transports are today. Highly valuable targets for people interested in enriching themselves.

The Banu Hilal were busy ruling North Africa at those times. In that time period they controlled/influenced an area stretching from Al-Andalus in the West to the Gulf of Oman in the East.

Abdulwahab was no reformist other wise isis are reformist he was the main source of terrorism.

Ibn saud used islam to kill his enemies if you know the history of your own country

The Abbasid caliphs were weak and didnt have any power you mentioned the mamluks but you forgot the Seljuks and buyids with barameka

The Abbasid were islamized version of the Sassanid both used black as thier main color and the Abbasids build their capita next to ctesiphon majority of the army commanders and officials were iranians the Abbasids armies who killed on million ummyyads were persians and turks and afghans from khurasan with few arab tribes from khurasan and kufa

اولا لغتك العربيه رديئه وسيئه جدا ولا تقارن لغتي بلغتك انا عربي قح من قحطان اول من تكلم العربيه وفتقت على لساننا. النجف عندنا مثل اي مدينه اخرى نحن المسلمون نقدس ثلاث الكعبه والمسجد النبوي والقدس اما النجف او الكوفه او قم فلم تقدس في القران ولا سنة نبيه وانا من مدينه الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ومنبع الاسلام ومحشر الناس يوم القيامه

لا تتبجح بالانساب لانها ليست ميزان التقوى يا قحطاني

مدينة النجف الأشرف هي أكبر مدرسة عربية و خرج منها الكثير من الشعراء منهم اشعر الشعراء المتن بي و هي عاصمة الحيرة سابقاً موطن الشعراء و منها أيضاً احمد الصافي النجفي

انت لا تستطيع ان تتحدى أهل العراق و اليمن بالفصاحة لأنهم أفصح العرب

بعدين يا قحطاني ترة الرسول افصح العرب و ابلغ العرب و قريش افصح العرب و ابلغها هم من مضر ولد عدنان من ذرية إسماعيل عليه السلام

 

[KTOOOOM]

بسمه تعالى ومن أهل المدينة مردوا على النفاق لا تعلمهم نحن نعلمهم الآية

كونك من اهل المدينة لا يعني لي شيء اكثر من انك من المنافقين

نحن طيء يا جاهل اعرف من طيء قبل ان تتكلم.

اولا انا قلت لك انا من قحطان هل تعلم من قحطان
عرب عاربة هم من أبناء قحطان، عاصروا العرب البائدة، وجدوا قبل إسماعيل عليه السلام وتعلم إسماعيل اللغة العربية منهم ليصبح وينتشر منه العرب المستعربة. ويـروى عن ابن عباس ( رضي الله عنهما) أنه قال : «العرب العاربة قحطان».
قول حسان بن ثابت رضي الله عنه: فنحن بنو قحطان والملك والعلا ومنا نبي الله هود الأخايرو ذكر الله عدداً من الأنبياء كانوا من العرب، وأرسلوا إلى العرب، ومنهم صالح نبي ثمود وكانوا عرباً من العاربة الذين يسكنون الأحقاف، وهي جبال الرمل، وكانت باليمن، ومنهم نبي الله إسماعيل الذي انحدر من نسل ولديه نابت و قيذار عرب الحجاز ومنهم هود، ومنهم شعيب عليهما السلام
فطيء هي فخذ من فخوذنا وترجع الى قحطان ومعروف الكثير في ذللك الوقت من ينسب نفسه الى غير نسبه و لغتك لا تدل على انك عربي
اما المنافقين علمهم عند الله وعادة المنافق يتهم الاخرين بانهم منافقين

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Ben de sizin topunuzu........

 

[KTOOOOM]

Abdulwahab was no reformist other wise isis are reformist he was the main source of terrorism.

Ibn saud used islam to kill his enemies if you know the history of your own country

The Abbasid caliphs were weak and didnt have any power you mentioned the mamluks but you forgot the Seljuks and buyids with barameka

The Abbasid were islamized version of the Sassanid both used black as thier main color and the Abbasids build their capita next to ctesiphon majority of the army commanders and officials were iranians the Abbasids armies who killed on million ummyyads were persians and turks and afghans from khurasan with few arab tribes from khurasan and kufa


لا تتبجح بالانساب لانها ليست ميزان التقوى يا قحطاني

مدينة النجف الأشرف هي أكبر مدرسة عربية و خرج منها الكثير من الشعراء منهم اشعر الشعراء المتن بي و هي عاصمة الحيرة سابقاً موطن الشعراء و منها أيضاً احمد الصافي النجفي

انت لا تستطيع ان تتحدى أهل العراق و اليمن بالفصاحة لأنهم أفصح العرب

بعدين يا قحطاني ترة الرسول افصح العرب و ابلغ العرب و قريش افصح العرب و ابلغها هم من مضر ولد عدنان من ذرية إسماعيل عليه السلام

قال تعالى: إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ الله أَتْقَاكُمْ إِنَّ الله عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ
بالنسبه للمدينه مثل ما قلت لك مثل اي مدينه اخرى عند المسلمون الموحدون لله
لم يقدسها الله في القران ولا نبيه ولا عموم المسلمين
اما بالنسبه للشعر فالشعر يقاس بمعلقاته
أعشى قيس - النابغة الذبياني-- امرؤ القيس -- الحارث بن حلزة اليشكري--- زهير بن أبي سلمى -- طرفة بن العبد -- عبيد بن الأبرص --عمرو بن كلثوم --عنترة بن شداد -- لبيد بن ربيعة
عصب الشعر وفائضه ومعروف من اين والى اين هم الشعراء لا غبار عليهم
وبالنسبه الفصاحه من جهلك ان تقول ان قحطان ليست افصح من اليمن لان اهل اليمن والجزيره العربيه هم من قحطان
وقحطان هم العرب العاربه هم من فتق اللغه العربيه واسسها وعلمها للعرب المستعربه

 

[Malik Alashter]

اولا انا قلت لك انا من قحطان هل تعلم من قحطان
عرب عاربة هم من أبناء قحطان، عاصروا العرب البائدة، وجدوا قبل إسماعيل عليه السلام وتعلم إسماعيل اللغة العربية منهم ليصبح وينتشر منه العرب المستعربة. ويـروى عن ابن عباس ( رضي الله عنهما) أنه قال : «العرب العاربة قحطان».
قول حسان بن ثابت رضي الله عنه: فنحن بنو قحطان والملك والعلا ومنا نبي الله هود الأخايرو ذكر الله عدداً من الأنبياء كانوا من العرب، وأرسلوا إلى العرب، ومنهم صالح نبي ثمود وكانوا عرباً من العاربة الذين يسكنون الأحقاف، وهي جبال الرمل، وكانت باليمن، ومنهم نبي الله إسماعيل الذي انحدر من نسل ولديه نابت و قيذار عرب الحجاز ومنهم هود، ومنهم شعيب عليهما السلام
فطيء هي فخذ من فخوذنا وترجع الى قحطان ومعروف الكثير في ذللك الوقت من ينسب نفسه الى غير نسبه و لغتك لا تدل على انك عربي
اما المنافقين علمهم عند الله وعادة المنافق يتهم الاخرين بانهم منافقين

طيئ فخذ منكم من انتم اولا

يا جاهل اكثر العرب اليوم في العراق وسوريا طيء على العموم روح افرح بعربيتك بعيدا هذا ان كنت عربيا حقا

فنحن طيء نصرنا محمد وال محمد ونحن على العهد من نصرهم باقون.

 

[SALMAN F]

اولا انا قلت لك انا من قحطان هل تعلم من قحطان
عرب عاربة هم من أبناء قحطان، عاصروا العرب البائدة، وجدوا قبل إسماعيل عليه السلام وتعلم إسماعيل اللغة العربية منهم ليصبح وينتشر منه العرب المستعربة. ويـروى عن ابن عباس ( رضي الله عنهما) أنه قال : «العرب العاربة قحطان».
قول حسان بن ثابت رضي الله عنه: فنحن بنو قحطان والملك والعلا ومنا نبي الله هود الأخايرو ذكر الله عدداً من الأنبياء كانوا من العرب، وأرسلوا إلى العرب، ومنهم صالح نبي ثمود وكانوا عرباً من العاربة الذين يسكنون الأحقاف، وهي جبال الرمل، وكانت باليمن، ومنهم نبي الله إسماعيل الذي انحدر من نسل ولديه نابت و قيذار عرب الحجاز ومنهم هود، ومنهم شعيب عليهما السلام
فطيء هي فخذ من فخوذنا وترجع الى قحطان ومعروف الكثير في ذللك الوقت من ينسب نفسه الى غير نسبه و لغتك لا تدل على انك عربي
اما المنافقين علمهم عند الله وعادة المنافق يتهم الاخرين بانهم منافقين

الرسول و الإمام مدحوا قبيلة الازد القحطانية و الاوس و الخزرج أنصار الرسول كانوا من الازد

اما في الملك في قحطان فهذه ليست فضيلة لو كان كذلك لفضله الله الفرس و الروم على العرب لأنهم ملكوا أجزاء كثيرة من العالم

اذا كان اهل النجف ليسوا عرباً فعلا علم الأنساب و العروبة السلام

 

[Serpentine]

Guys, stop ruining this thread with religious discussion and stop talking in Arabic.

 

[SALMAN F]

Guys, stop ruining this thread with religious discussion and stop talking in Arabic.

We are not discussing religion but we speak about arab tribes

 

[Full Moon]

Well, no one is going to convince anyone religiously through lengthy arguments. Surly PDF won't witness "the reconciliation" between Sunnis and Shias.