Iraqi pro-PMU protesters storm US embassy in Baghdad

[Saddam Hussein]

They're truly idiots to do this, the people in the Iraqi army are no different from the people in the PMU except that their command chain differs. What's the chance there might be some Iraqi soldier on those bases that decides to open fire on US troops there? Do you think it's impossible this will happen?

I doubt the US did this for revenge though, they likely decided to escalate the tension against Iran, starting in Iraq with certain PMU units and its political affiliated factions.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1212152748847841281

https://twitter.com/x/status/1212155902268194816

They do as they wish as they like. As if Iraq is their mothers home.

 

[PakFactor]

America need to stop its obsession with Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba. Start focusing all the attention on the Communist Chinese dictatorship that poses a threat to the free and Democratic world. Too many American politicians are corrupt. They take money from multinational corporations that are telling them to go easy on China. All these other countries pose no long term threat to the United States. Communist China must be aggressively confronted.

Like I said in another thread Americans are short sighted — other nations of the world have existed for thousands of years and culturally developed a set of diplomatic norms and how to survive and pass that thought on. America being a nation only 200+ years old and a melting pot of culture hasn’t developed these sort of norms and think short term and it’ll be its own undoing and unleash something it can’t control. Time to confront China is long gone.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Iraq riots expose an America weaker and with fewer options

Mobbing of US embassy after US strikes on state-sanctioned militia show America’s plan of maximum pressure only added to chaos

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/31/iraq-riots-embassy-expose-america-weaker-fewer-options

America need to stop its obsession with Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba. Start focusing all the attention on the Communist Chinese dictatorship that poses a threat to the free and Democratic world. Too many American politicians are corrupt. They take money from multinational corporations that are telling them to go easy on China. All these other countries pose no long term threat to the United States. Communist China must be aggressively confronted.

You are in absolutely no position to challange China. You are stuck in Afghanistan and the Middle East because of your own doing. Unless you don't resolve these conflicts amicably it is very difficult for your country to exit.

 

[moweike]

America need to stop its obsession with Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba. Start focusing all the attention on the Communist Chinese dictatorship that poses a threat to the free and Democratic world. Too many American politicians are corrupt. They take money from multinational corporations that are telling them to go easy on China. All these other countries pose no long term threat to the United States. Communist China must be aggressively confronted.

Anglo you will not have only one enemy,this is part of your culture australians are just Anglo prisoners,you should be proud of your ancestorsno one in China cares about Australia,if you don't like Chinese you can stay away,but you want to provoke China,you can get kickeddon't expect the US to help you,your country is even weaker than North Korea,Paper cat country
China becomes strong,are you scared? you will get used to it

America need to stop its obsession with Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba. Start focusing all the attention on the Communist Chinese dictatorship that poses a threat to the free and Democratic world. Too many American politicians are corrupt. They take money from multinational corporations that are telling them to go easy on China. All these other countries pose no long term threat to the United States. Communist China must be aggressively confronted.

free? I think you want to re-establish the Crusaders F—u—c—k free If you are strong, you can define freedom,this is what the West taught us,don’t be afraid of challengers are you afraid you will fail? change like Iraq ~ Syria ~ Afghanistan?

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

This is a humiliaton for the good old USA.

also provides how uncivilized Arabs are...

 

[mike2000 is back]

Actually the Shia say Saddam was brought to power by the west and the west supported him against Iran but after Kuwait invasion things turned upside down. When the Shia revolted in 1991 against Saddam the USA didn’t do anything and let Saddam crush them.

Actually that should have been the best course of action. The US should have just contained Saddam and stopped there like they did in the first gulf war. That would have kept the region more stable and avoided many of the militias and fractured state we see today. As bad as he was it was far better to keep him in power and contain him than removing him completely and dismantling his regime entirely. That led to the current situation.
Same would have happened to Syria if we removed Assad. So it's better to just contain him and let him carry on ruling the country, at least there will be some sort of stability (even though repression will continue).
Reason I said if the people want to remove their dictators they should shed their own blood themselves and sacrifice themselves to remove him . I know there will be massive casualties since these dictators dont hesitate to slaughter their own people just to remain in power. However I believe if most of the country rise up and sacrifice a couple of thousands or hundreds of thousands of themselves then they can achieve their objective of removing their dictators (be it Saddam, Assad, Mubarak etc) on their own. The issue here is that they didn't want to and were scared of sacrificing themselves in such large numbers(they knew how ruthless Saddam's Sunni led regime and military was) and so they had to plead with western powers to help them get the job done.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Actually that should have been the best course of action. The US should have just contained Saddam and stopped there like they did in the first gulf war. That would have kept the region more stable and avoided many of the militias and fractured state we see today. As bad as he was it was far better to keep him in power and contain him than removing him completely and dismantling his regime entirely. That led to the current situation.
Same would have happened to Syria if we removed Assad. So it's better to just contain him and let him carry on ruling the country, at least there will be some sort of stability (even though repression will continue).
Reason I said if the people want to remove their dictators they should shed their own blood themselves and sacrifice themselves to remove him . I know there will be massive casualties since these dictators dont hesitate to slaughter their own people just to remain in power. However I believe if most of the country rise up na sacrifice a couple of thousands of themselves then they can achieve their objective of removing him themselves. The issue here is that they didn't want to sacrifice themselves in such large numbers and so they had to plead with western powers to do the job for them.

And westerners are such emotional human beings that they they jump in to save them???

 

[Timur]

And westerners are such emotional human beings

indeed they are extreem emotional..
they care with high emotions..
they are civilisized in high manner..
they are kind and good..

but only to their own

 

[Rukarl]

indeed they are extreem emotional..
they care with high emotions..
they are civilisized in high manner..
they are kind and good..

but only to their own

Dude, you are accepted in Germany, living off their welfare system. Arent they kind to you?

 

[bsruzm]

Same would have happened to Syria if we removed Assad. So it's better to just contain him and let him carry on ruling the country, at least there will be some sort of stability (even though repression will continue).

Yeah, US did a mistake. Removing Saddam was completely against UK, and everything UK stood for in the region.

 

[Timur]

living off their welfare system

I am shure you would get walfare in germany, they are giving it to every gypsy but not to ppl like me who lack the gypsyness

 

[Rukarl]

I am shure you would get walfare in germany, they are giving it to every gypsy but not to ppl like me who lack the gypsyness

What are nationalist turks doing in germany ? why arent you living in turkey if you love it so much ?

 

[Timur]

What are nationalist turks doing in germany ? why arent you living in turkey if you love it so much ?

what does that matter you my hairy friend? why do you get triggered?

you may be on the right path.. chanting and rubbing your little friend when iran will be hit with american bombs.. would you feel better if I do the same?

 

[Rukarl]

what does that matter you my hairy friend? why do you get triggered?

you may be on the right path.. chanting and rubbing your little friend when iran will be hit with american bombs.. would you feel better if I do the same?

Turks are worldwide known as hairy beasts