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Iran's growing regional influence

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By John Simpson

BBC News, Iran

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Iran is now a regional superpower, and ever since the Islamic revolution in 1978-9, we in the West have consistently misunderstood it.


On 9 January 1979, a couple of weeks before his triumphant return to Iran, I interviewed Ayatollah Khomeini at his base in exile outside Paris.

In the interview, Khomeini sketched out Iran's entire future: the eradication of the monarchy, universal suffrage and the ban on "corrupt" Western influences.

And he outlined his attitude to Western countries like Britain and the US.

"We intend to reject a relationship which makes us dependent on other countries," he said.

"We have bitter memories of the British, because they ensured that Reza Shah (the last Shah's father) came to power, and for half a century we have been under the domination of this man and his son."

Heightened position

For almost 30 years, the West has concentrated on the religious, fundamentalist aspect of Iran's Islamic Republic.

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"The overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US has swept Iran's local rival off the chessboard"


We have forgotten that Khomeini's revolution was also a declaration of independence from British and American control.

Now, thanks to several different factors, Iran has suddenly reached a new level of power and influence.

The sky-rocketing price of oil has put a lot of money into its pocket.
The overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US has swept Iran's local rival off the chessboard, and free elections in Iraq have brought the Shia majority to power.

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Iraq, weakened by the immense violence which has followed Saddam's overthrow, now regards Shia Iran as the dominant partner in the relationship.

Finally, after eight years of ineffectual government by the moderate reformist President Mohammed Khatami, Iran suddenly has an loud, idiosyncratic, fundamentalist president who cannot be ignored.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has gone back to Ayatollah Khomeini's principles, and he wants to establish Iran's independence further by turning Iran into a nuclear power.

Relations with Israel

The US and Israel are seriously worried.
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"If President Ahmadinejad wants to attack Israel, there are simpler ways than building a nuclear bomb"

President Ahmadinejad insists that Iran is simply setting up a civil nuclear power industry, and that the US has no right to stop it.

But the American-based scholar Vali Nasr, author of The Shia Revival, believes he plans to go further: "He really wants to be one screwdriver short of a nuclear weapon," he said.

Israel's justice minister, Meir Sheetrit, is certain that Iran plans to build a nuclear bomb.

"They are fighting against the free world," he says, "and I'm warning not only Israel but all Europe and all democratic countries. Otherwise it could be too late."

But, if President Ahmadinejad wants to attack Israel, there are simpler ways than building a nuclear bomb.

Iran's close ally, the Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah, armed and trained by Iran, launched a highly successful brief war against Israel.
A guerrilla movement, well supplied with low-tech weapons, out-fought and outmanoeuvred a big conventional army using tanks, planes and artillery.

Modern alliances

By encouraging and arming Hezbollah, Iran has managed to create an anti-American front between Shia and Sunni Muslims in many parts of the Middle East.

Instead of the old Sunni-Shia hostility, there is a new unity.
Nowadays, you can see pictures of Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, in shops and streets and houses from Cairo to Amman to Jerusalem.

According to Prince Hassan of Jordan: "The populism of Ahmadinejad and Hezbollah is an alternative to civil society in the Middle East.
"By recruiting the poor and disenfranchised, they are closer to people's needs than governments are. Which is why they have this enormous following."

Pro-Western governments in the Middle East may not like it, but there is nothing they can do.

American influence in the area is visibly declining.
Their own positions are distinctly weaker.

President Ahmadinejad has put Iran at the forefront of all these changes.

For him, it is all part of the same process that Ayatollah Khomeini started, 27 years ago, when he overthrew the American- and British-imposed Shah.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/5363098.stm
 
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Iran's growing regional influence

By John Simpson
BBC News, Iran


Iran is now a regional superpower, and ever since the Islamic revolution in 1978-9, we in the West have consistently misunderstood it.


On 9 January 1979, a couple of weeks before his triumphant return to Iran, I interviewed Ayatollah Khomeini at his base in exile outside Paris.

In the interview, Khomeini sketched out Iran's entire future: the eradication of the monarchy, universal suffrage and the ban on "corrupt" Western influences.

And he outlined his attitude to Western countries like Britain and the US.

"We intend to reject a relationship which makes us dependent on other countries," he said.

"We have bitter memories of the British, because they ensured that Reza Shah (the last Shah's father) came to power, and for half a century we have been under the domination of this man and his son."

Heightened position

For almost 30 years, the West has concentrated on the religious, fundamentalist aspect of Iran's Islamic Republic.

"The overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US has swept Iran's local rival off the chessboard"

We have forgotten that Khomeini's revolution was also a declaration of independence from British and American control.

Now, thanks to several different factors, Iran has suddenly reached a new level of power and influence.

The sky-rocketing price of oil has put a lot of money into its pocket.
The overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US has swept Iran's local rival off the chessboard, and free elections in Iraq have brought the Shia majority to power.

Iraq, weakened by the immense violence which has followed Saddam's overthrow, now regards Shia Iran as the dominant partner in the relationship.

Finally, after eight years of ineffectual government by the moderate reformist President Mohammed Khatami, Iran suddenly has an loud, idiosyncratic, fundamentalist president who cannot be ignored.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has gone back to Ayatollah Khomeini's principles, and he wants to establish Iran's independence further by turning Iran into a nuclear power.

Relations with Israel

The US and Israel are seriously worried.

"If President Ahmadinejad wants to attack Israel, there are simpler ways than building a nuclear bomb"

President Ahmadinejad insists that Iran is simply setting up a civil nuclear power industry, and that the US has no right to stop it.

But the American-based scholar Vali Nasr, author of The Shia Revival, believes he plans to go further: "He really wants to be one screwdriver short of a nuclear weapon," he said.

Israel's justice minister, Meir Sheetrit, is certain that Iran plans to build a nuclear bomb.

"They are fighting against the free world," he says, "and I'm warning not only Israel but all Europe and all democratic countries. Otherwise it could be too late."

But, if President Ahmadinejad wants to attack Israel, there are simpler ways than building a nuclear bomb.

Iran's close ally, the Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah, armed and trained by Iran, launched a highly successful brief war against Israel.
A guerrilla movement, well supplied with low-tech weapons, out-fought and outmanoeuvred a big conventional army using tanks, planes and artillery.

Modern alliances

By encouraging and arming Hezbollah, Iran has managed to create an anti-American front between Shia and Sunni Muslims in many parts of the Middle East.

Instead of the old Sunni-Shia hostility, there is a new unity.
Nowadays, you can see pictures of Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, in shops and streets and houses from Cairo to Amman to Jerusalem.

According to Prince Hassan of Jordan: "The populism of Ahmadinejad and Hezbollah is an alternative to civil society in the Middle East.
"By recruiting the poor and disenfranchised, they are closer to people's needs than governments are. Which is why they have this enormous following."

Pro-Western governments in the Middle East may not like it, but there is nothing they can do.

American influence in the area is visibly declining.
Their own positions are distinctly weaker.

President Ahmadinejad has put Iran at the forefront of all these changes.

For him, it is all part of the same process that Ayatollah Khomeini started, 27 years ago, when he overthrew the American- and British-imposed Shah.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/5363098.stm

Brilliant artile,

Iran is a great nation and is the new voice of the islamic world. Unlike other US puppet states Iran is opposing US agression not only on itself but through out the muslim world. It is our duty as the only nuclear muslim country to support iran and be cautious who we call our allies. Slowly as you people have witnessed in the past few months Pakistan has considerably moved away from the US spere of influence and if our govt become a US puppet again then I hope that there will be a islamic revolution.

Right know I think Musharaf is making Pakistan go in a great direction by not siding with either side
 
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We support Iran and will continue to do so. But Imho its would be much better if there's a regime change and country is no longer ruled by the mullah's.
Don't forget Palestine and Iran are responsible for the alianation of muslims around the world, atleast for the greater part.
 
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We support Iran and will continue to do so. But Imho its would be much better if there's a regime change and country is no longer ruled by the mullah's.
Don't forget Palestine and Iran are responsible for the alianation of muslims around the world, atleast for the greater part.

First off Iran isnt run by mullah's it has a democracy in which the religious ayatollah is more powerful. This make sure Iran stays a Islamic democrasy which every muslim nation should adapt. In the koran it even says that once the muslim turn away from the islamic form of govt then thatll mean the last days are coming. Also the only people that have alianated muslims are the arabs and extremist. The arabs are nothing but baskstabbing losers. The palestanians for a half a century have lost there home to a population less than 1/3 its size thanxs to the wests support to israel and the only muslim nation to stand up to this aggression is Iran. I hope Iran stays this way and more muslim nations join iran as syria has done. Iran is no more a shia state, they are a muslim state ready to fight the zionist

long live iran
 
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There are some Muslim countries with Armies, some with tech, some with money. Someone with two but not three.

We have army and tech.

Iran has army and money

Saudi has money and has bought tech.

Turkey sure comes close to having all three.

They have too many differences with each other, otherwise combined they'd be a potent force. Pak is interestingly good with all of them. Without each other's cooperation all this is nothing.
 
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Pak by far is ahead of muslim nation in variety of key techonologies such as missile tech (pakistan has by far the best in the muslim world and 7 best in world), army (best in muslim world), pakistan is the only muslim nation that has made its own tanks, cruise missiles, DU rounds, Fighters, and frigates (2nd after turkey on this one)

But the main problem with Pakistan is that our govt is not willing to stand up to outside aggression. The US has multiple times invaded our land. They have earlier this year killed 11 inocent people in an attack they thought would kill Al-Qaeda 2nd in command which failed. Pak govt failed to respond or take action and know everyday event like these are still happening
 
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Iran is religous but they can be exterme sometimes(with their women laws etc) but by far iran is the only country who has the guts to stand up to the west. And pakistan sure supports them, after all it was A.QKhan who gave them the Nuke tech in the first place:chilli: . Iran-pak relations forever.
 
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Yes I agree with you bro. Its just a matter of time before all the muslim nations wake up and fight for what is right. It is not bad to have US as you allie but, if at the same time it is giving your neighbor better weapons, supporting seperatist, intruding our sovereinty, and constantly critisizing us when It was most of our troops who lost there lives so far in the war against terror. I think its time pakistan fights fire with fire and turns towards china and starts supporting Iran, and hezbollah heavily
 
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I am amused after reading all the comments. What has happened to this forum? This is supposed to be Pakistani forces. Whereas we see someone praising Wahabis to high heaven and now no limit to the praise of Iran and Knomeni. Pan Islamism is nothing new, remember Jamaluddin Afghani of 100 years ago? My fault lies in seeng everything from a Pakistani bias.

I feel that that most of us Pakistanis are so 'anti US and anti Israeli' that we overlook the best interest of Pakistan. As I have stated elsewhere in one of the earlier posts, a very strong Iran is not in the overall interest of Pakistan. I speak passable Farsi, I have visited Iran many times, during Shah's time, during the Iran/Iraq war and a few times since then and even now I speak to NIOC for the purchase of their products. Theferore I speak with the criterion of self refrence that many Iranians and their gov't is very pro Indian.

The concept of ' Vilayet -e- Faqih' is not a shia doctrine but invention of Khomeni to keep Mullah's hold on ultimate power. The council of guardians is not an elected body but it can over rule any law that Iran's Majlis passes. The system is therefore not democratic.

However, my objection to Iran becoming a regional power has nothing to do with Iran's system of govt. Iran has been staunchly pro India ever since the revolution. Yes; I am obsessed with India and I wouldn't want Pakistan to be squeezed between two nuclear and strong neighbours. Pakistan's and Iran's interests can clash. The two countries almost came to war when Taliban killed Iranian diplomats in Mazar Sharif. Our intetersts can clash again. Suppose India and Iran decide to jointly attack Pakistan, Iran claiming Baluchistan and India Azad Kashmir?. You can't rule out this scenario out of hand. I wouldn't want US to bomb Iran as it will kill lot of innocent muslims, but supporting Iranians regional ambitions 'NO'. Pakistan is also a part of the region and we would like to be friendly with all our neighbours, but a possibility of Iran - India axis cannot be completly ruled out.
 
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1. I feel that that most of us Pakistanis are so 'anti US and anti Israeli' that we overlook the best interest of Pakistan. As I have stated elsewhere in one of the earlier posts,

2. a very strong Iran is not in the overall interest of Pakistan. I speak passable Farsi, I have visited Iran many times, during Shah's time, during the Iran/Iraq war and a few times since then and even now I speak to NIOC for the purchase of their products.

3. Theferore I speak with the criterion of self refrence that many Iranians and their gov't is very pro Indian.

4. The council of guardians is not an elected body but it can over rule any law that Iran's Majlis passes. The system is therefore not democratic.

5. Yes; I am obsessed with India and I wouldn't want Pakistan to be squeezed between two nuclear and strong neighbours. Pakistan's and Iran's interests can clash. The two countries almost came to war when Taliban killed Iranian diplomats in Mazar Sharif. Our intetersts can clash again.

6. Suppose India and Iran decide to jointly attack Pakistan, Iran claiming Baluchistan and India Azad Kashmir?. You can't rule out this scenario out of hand.

7. I wouldn't want US to bomb Iran as it will kill lot of innocent muslims, but supporting Iranians regional ambitions 'NO'. Pakistan is also a part of the region and we would like to be friendly with all our neighbours, but a possibility of Iran - India axis cannot be completly ruled out.

1. You have forgotten all to easily the crippling sanctions lead and imposed by the U.S. on Pak. Israel contribution to Pak. has been to supply India with advanced weaponry to continue the oppression in Kashmir.

2. A very strong Iran will ensure that trade grows robustly, that Oil gas and electricity exports continue and that there are counterbalancing forces in the middle east.

3. If they are drawn to India it is simply because that India is a large energy market. The fact that Pak. is not is because of pathetic economic management in the past few decades which is changing under the current admin.

4. That is hypocritical, the current president of Iran was elected by a direct popular vote which neither Musharaff nor Manhomann Singh can claim.

5. The only way Pak. will not be squeezed is to be strong itself with good economic performance and good relations with Iran.

6. When has Iran ever attacked Pak.? This is ludicrous. Also Iran has never claimed Bal. this is a lie you are propagating.

7. An Indian-Iranian nexus can be prevented if Pak. takes the initiative and maintains and improves the current very good relationship. India is also moving away from Iran because of strong U.S. pressure (from nuclear deal) which presents a magnificient opportunity for Pak. to capitalise on.
 
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I am amused after reading all the comments. What has happened to this forum? This is supposed to be Pakistani forces. Whereas we see someone praising Wahabis to high heaven and now no limit to the praise of Iran and Knomeni. Pan Islamism is nothing new, remember Jamaluddin Afghani of 100 years ago? My fault lies in seeng everything from a Pakistani bias.

I feel that that most of us Pakistanis are so 'anti US and anti Israeli' that we overlook the best interest of Pakistan. As I have stated elsewhere in one of the earlier posts, a very strong Iran is not in the overall interest of Pakistan. I speak passable Farsi, I have visited Iran many times, during Shah's time, during the Iran/Iraq war and a few times since then and even now I speak to NIOC for the purchase of their products. Theferore I speak with the criterion of self refrence that many Iranians and their gov't is very pro Indian.

The concept of ' Vilayet -e- Faqih' is not a shia doctrine but invention of Khomeni to keep Mullah's hold on ultimate power. The council of guardians is not an elected body but it can over rule any law that Iran's Majlis passes. The system is therefore not democratic.

However, my objection to Iran becoming a regional power has nothing to do with Iran's system of govt. Iran has been staunchly pro India ever since the revolution. Yes; I am obsessed with India and I wouldn't want Pakistan to be squeezed between two nuclear and strong neighbours. Pakistan's and Iran's interests can clash. The two countries almost came to war when Taliban killed Iranian diplomats in Mazar Sharif. Our intetersts can clash again. Suppose India and Iran decide to jointly attack Pakistan, Iran claiming Baluchistan and India Azad Kashmir?. You can't rule out this scenario out of hand. I wouldn't want US to bomb Iran as it will kill lot of innocent muslims, but supporting Iranians regional ambitions 'NO'. Pakistan is also a part of the region and we would like to be friendly with all our neighbours, but a possibility of Iran - India axis cannot be completly ruled out.

Mr Niaz your lack OF knowledge shows in your thread :coffee:
 
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1. You have forgotten all to easily the crippling sanctions lead and imposed by the U.S. on Pak. Israel contribution to Pak. has been to supply India with advanced weaponry to continue the oppression in Kashmir.

2. A very strong Iran will ensure that trade grows robustly, that Oil gas and electricity exports continue and that there are counterbalancing forces in the middle east.

3. If they are drawn to India it is simply because that India is a large energy market. The fact that Pak. is not is because of pathetic economic management in the past few decades which is changing under the current admin.

4. That is hypocritical, the current president of Iran was elected by a direct popular vote which neither Musharaff nor Manhomann Singh can claim.

5. The only way Pak. will not be squeezed is to be strong itself with good economic performance and good relations with Iran.

6. When has Iran ever attacked Pak.? This is ludicrous. Also Iran has never claimed Bal. this is a lie you are propagating.

7. An Indian-Iranian nexus can be prevented if Pak. takes the initiative and maintains and improves the current very good relationship. India is also moving away from Iran because of strong U.S. pressure (from nuclear deal) which presents a magnificient opportunity for Pak. to capitalise on.

Nicely said Sig.
Thanks!
 
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Yes nicely said sig

I see why you support the US, Dont get me wrong im american, america is a great country. The US people are great people but, the problem is there govt is ran by zionist people that just wanna attack muslims. They will tell you in school about how jews where treated in WW2 (i to feel bad for them since I am human) but they never tell you about the millions of muslims killed by the crusaders, the israeli's, and the millions driven out of there own home in palestine and southern lebanon. The only muslim nation brave enought to stand up against this aggression is Iran. While we are being called great allie by the devil they are invading our nation, and supporting our enemy's on the eastern front and western (militanta).

They constantly critisize us for supporting terrorist when it was them that gave osama, saddam and other extremist billions of dollars

Long live the ayatollah
Long live the islamic revolution
Long live Pakistan
 
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