IRANS ANCIENT PAST.

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Persian inventions ( not Iranian).

@westtowel, we are calling ourself and our country as ''Eeran'' for over more then 4000 years in history. in 1930's we asked the world to call us how we call our country and each other and that is ''Iran''
Persian(n) is a greek word and nothing Iranian

If you read the tragedy of Rustum and Sohrab (tale popular in Pakistan) which was pre Islamic you hear the words Iran and Turan

Iran is not a new name for IRAN/PERSIA

 

[no_name]

Alot of misguided people thinks Iran is only about the Islamic clergy and mullas, just like alot of misguided people thinks China is only about Mao and his red guards.

 

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Some Iranians expats I think belief that if they try to distance themselves from the Islamic aspect of their history (or anything Islamic) they would be more acceptable in the West

Only time Iran/Persia was in the good books of the West was under the Shah Regime

 

[IranZamin]

If you read the tragedy of Rustum and Sohrab (tale popular in Pakistan) which was pre Islamic you hear the words Iran and Turan

Iran is not a new name for IRAN/PERSIA

Like i said, we are calling our country Iran for more then thousands of years. We dont care what uneducated people say
Btw, Its ''Rostam'' not Rustum
and also Turan at that time was turkey fighting against us

 

[Kazhugu]

Nicely said brother, but i promise you the most important thing should be for our people not those leaders who are sucking the country, they are hiding the true iran from us. our people want freedom but they will not get it from this islamic state, imagine an iran where all religion are respected and our own culture is valued much more than an arabic culture.

may your tribe increase !

 

[Ahmad]

Afghan Dari-gari…




Iran has a good history all empires rise and fall same with the Persian Empire.

But don’t let the Afghans and others destroy your culture by claiming to be Persians and whatnot.

Peace

could you stop your non sense? i ignored you in the other thread by non replying, but it seems that you are on a rampage against us. Yes, we are ethnically persian and why do you get agitated for it? chill out buddy, lets have respect to each other. Lets not all of us ruin the thread by discussing useless issues.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Tajiks from China, the connection of the Great Persia.

Tajikan - Tajiks from Taj Qurghan of China - Farsi song - YouTube

Tajik girl from china sings a Parsi song - Tajik is our geniune identity whether we are from China, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan or the artificial country of Afghanistan. The name Afghanistan was fabricated and imposed by the British on Khorasan in 1879 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aImVPZtfmo0&feature=related

 

[Developereo]

My parents always fondly mention the Iran of the Shah era. It was a progressive, liberal state that became the envy of the region.

You've got to be kidding.

The Shah was a boy idiot installed by the Americans precisely because he was so easy to control. He was a figurehead and, during his regime, the Savak took state brutality to a whole new level.

 

[roadrunner]

The Tajiks from China, the connection of the Great Persia.

Tajikan - Tajiks from Taj Qurghan of China - Farsi song - YouTube

Tajik girl from china sings a Parsi song - Tajik is our geniune identity whether we are from China, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan or the artificial country of Afghanistan. The name Afghanistan was fabricated and imposed by the British on Khorasan in 1879 -

China Tajik dance Noz,Www.Faryad.cn - YouTube

If that is Tajik sentiment, why aren't they living in Tajikistan?

Afghanistan was not a name imposed afaik.

 

[Ahmad]

If that is Tajik sentiment, why aren't they living in Tajikistan?

Afghanistan was not a name imposed afaik.

The british wanted to create this division, so they intentionally called it Afghanistan, now i dont say it was the work of british, but were keen on that. secondly this name does not represnt all of us and many people are not happy about it. People of differnt ethnicities live in differnet countries, if they want to express their love for thier ethnicity(as long as it is healhty), then i dont see any problem with it. Although i still need to see what the song says because i havent watchen them yet.

 

[nasser07]

Persian God and his Islamic rants again.

 

[roadrunner]

The british wanted to create this division, so they intentionally called it Afghanistan, now i dont say it was the work of british, but were keen on that.

So the British brainwashed the Afghan rulers? I dont think that happened.

You get majorities and minorities in countries. Sometimes nationalism comes out and countries are named after that.

Afghanistan might not be the ideal choice of name for minorities in Afghanistan. But why should the minority choice take presidence over the majority choice?

(ideally the name will suit everyone, but if it's not possible).

secondly this name does not represnt all of us and many people are not happy about it. People of differnt ethnicities live in differnet countries, if they want to express their love for thier ethnicity(as long as it is healhty), then i dont see any problem with it. Although i still need to see what the song says because i havent watchen them yet.

I'm sure you've watched them. It's only one click. You just need to get someone to translate it for you.

 

[Ahmad]

So the British brainwashed the Afghan rulers? I dont think that happened.

You get majorities and minorities in countries. Sometimes nationalism comes out and countries are named after that.

Afghanistan might not be the ideal choice of name for minorities in Afghanistan. But why should the minority choice take presidence over the majority choice?

(ideally the name will suit everyone, but if it's not possible).

And when did i say that the british renamed it to Afghanistan? did you read the post properly? i said they were keen on that, and pashtun nationalism was the driving factor of this change, THE SAME NATIONALISM WHICH DOES NOT RECOGNIZE YOUR TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY. I cant understand who will call 27-30 or even more of the population as minority(tajiks only in this specific case), secondly, the cobination of all the other ethnic groups surpass the pashtuns, so this name does not represtnt majority of the population. What do you and others will feel if Pakistan will be renamed to Panjabistan?

I'm sure you've watched them. It's only one click. You just need to get someone to translate it for you.

or in other words you called me liar,Thank you Mr.Think Tank!!. I am at work at the moment and the computers are barred from playing songs or access to the youtube. But i will see the contents of that song and tell you either today or tomorrow.

 

[roadrunner]

And when did i say that the british renamed it to Afghanistan? did you read the post properly? i said they were keen on that, and pashtun nationalism was the driving factor of this change, THE SAME NATIONALISM WHICH DOES NOT RECOGNIZE YOUR TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY. I cant understand who will call 27-30 or even more of the population as minority(tajiks only in this specific case), secondly, the cobination of all the other ethnic groups surpass the pashtuns, so this name does not represtnt majority of the population. What do you and others will feel if Pakistan will be renamed to Panjabistan?

I didn't say you said the british renamed it. I said your post implied the British brainwashed the Afghan rulers to call it Afghanistan.

The truth about population numbers is that noone really knows for sure. Under Tajik rule, Tajik figures go dramtically higher, under Pashtun rule, they go lower. However it is accepted that Pashtuns form the majority ethnic group in Afghanistan. Given that, why do you think the minority should get to choose the name?

On Pakistan although unrelated, i wouldn't mind what it's called. I could think of a few extra names. However since the leaders did not select Panjabistan, it is not a situation that matters.

or in other words you called me liar,Thank you Mr.Think Tank!!. I am at work at the moment and the computers are barred from playing songs or access to the youtube. But i will see the contents of that song and tell you either today or tomorrow.

but you have enough time to patrol this forum most of the day as the voice of Afghanistan. proxies aren't difficult to use btw.

 

[Ahmad]

I didn't say you said the british renamed it. I said your post implied the British brainwashed the Afghan rulers to call it Afghanistan.

I never said that and never meant that, but they were keen, for example, the British, constantly were calling Timorshah as King Of Afghaistan, while he himself was calling himself the King of Khorasan.

The truth about population numbers is that noone really knows for sure. Under Tajik rule, Tajik figures go dramtically higher, under Pashtun rule, they go lower. However it is accepted that Pashtuns form the majority ethnic group in Afghanistan. Given that, why do you think the minority should get to choose the name?

Since you claim that the numbers do change time to time, how do you know that Pashtuns are majority?

On Pakistan although unrelated, i wouldn't mind what it's called. I could think of a few extra names. However since the leaders did not select Panjabistan, it is not a situation that matters.

Not related, but we can well include it in our argument. If the name afghanistan was chosen by all parties as council etc, then no objection to it, but why should we accept it as the ethno nationalists imposed the name on everybody else? secondly, the same nationlaists and nationalist kings/cabinet/policy makers have chosen to claim on your territory, why is that not accepted to you but you are very keen more than anybody else that the name is suitiable for us? which is in fact hurting us and our unity.

but you have enough time to patrol this forum most of the day as the voice of Afghanistan. proxies aren't difficult to use btw.

posting comment is something and listening to music is somehting else, i dont know what a proxy is and i certainly dont know how to use it, but when i see songs on the forums this is the message i get: You are trying to access the web page:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/-pGnh4mPiLA"

which is listed as: "CardiffandCo_Allow;Open/Mixed Content;Audio/Video Clips"


The Council has developed restrictions to certain categories of site to protect both employees and the public from accessing inappropriate sites.

on the other hand, to listen to music, you need to have speakers which we dont have them.