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[Commandant]

You are right, but that time was better than now, just in compare with other forces they earned less. nowadays whole the army in the air force, navy or ground forces have not a good quality of life.

It was a little better, and that was because of the US grants that were given to the army.
Right now the situation is terrible ...
The nominal budget of the IRGC is way more than the army, while army has more personnel (four or more times)
and this budget is not for the warfare, its for the salaries and annual spendings. You can easily compare the life of their personnel.

 

[mohsen]

It was a little better, and that was because of the US grants that were given to the army.
Right now the situation is terrible ...
The nominal budget of the IRGC is way more than the army, while army has more personnel (four or more times)
and this budget is not for the warfare, its for the salaries and annual spendings. You can easily compare the life of their personnel.

old and lazy army personnel who hardly can walk let alone fighting. useless against stronger classic armies, useless against terrorists and asymmetric warfare.
no matter west or east, Pjak or Jeishol sh!t, It's IRGC which has to take care of them. inside the borders army doesn't even recognize it as it's responsibility. what about deterrence? as long as its army, just forget this word.

 

[haman10]

old and lazy army personnel who hardly can walk let alone fighting. useless against stronger classic armies, useless against terrorists and asymmetric warfare.
no matter west or east, Pjak or Jeishol sh!t, It's IRGC which has to take care of them. inside the borders army doesn't even recognize it as it's responsibility. what about deterrence? as long as its army, just forget this word.

Well PJAK was co-terminated by Army and IRGC , does 48th fat'h brigade ring any bells ?

 

[Serpentine]

old and lazy army personnel who hardly can walk let alone fighting. useless against stronger classic armies, useless against terrorists and asymmetric warfare.
no matter west or east, Pjak or Jeishol sh!t, It's IRGC which has to take care of them. inside the borders army doesn't even recognize it as it's responsibility. what about deterrence? as long as its army, just forget this word.

Will you also compare the budgets of 2 organizations? Does the army have massive financial activities like IRGC?

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Iranian reverse-engineered M4 Carbine, named Fajr 224:

 

[Commandant]

old and lazy army personnel who hardly can walk let alone fighting. useless against stronger classic armies, useless against terrorists and asymmetric warfare.
no matter west or east, Pjak or Jeishol sh!t, It's IRGC which has to take care of them. inside the borders army doesn't even recognize it as it's responsibility. what about deterrence? as long as its army, just forget this word.

After the revolution, they said whats the use of these equipments and these personnel (army), they said disband it and sell the equipment. So they expelled most of the officers.

But after the beginning of the war, they returned and fought for they country, and they died for it.
Air force lost about 250 pilots during the war, if you ask their colleagues, they would tell you that two third of them were expelled after the revolution, and after the war started, they returned on their own.

Now they say, it has became old and useless, let's disband it.
It sounds familiar.

 

[mohsen]

After the revolution, they said whats the use of these equipments and these personnel (army), they said disband it and sell the equipment. So they expelled most of the officers.

But after the beginning of the war, they returned and fought for they country, and they died for it.
Air force lost about 250 pilots during the war, if you ask their colleagues, they would tell you that two third of them were expelled after the revolution, and after the war started, they returned on their own.

Now they say, it has became old and useless, let's disband it.
It sounds familiar.

reconfigure, not disband. don\t mix them.

 

[Uhuhu]

old and lazy army personnel who hardly can walk let alone fighting. useless against stronger classic armies, useless against terrorists and asymmetric warfare.
no matter west or east, Pjak or Jeishol sh!t, It's IRGC which has to take care of them. inside the borders army doesn't even recognize it as it's responsibility. what about deterrence? as long as its army, just forget this word.

Ive seen you posted several times nonsense in Iranian forum, but never tried to waste my time for you, but here, you started to insult army while some beardeds even have not simple discipline in their organization. it seems you forgot the main defence forces to protect the country is army and whenever IRGC cant clean its own shit, they beg army to help them. what happened for IRGC su-25s in iraq? do they think only buying toys and fly with them is enough? they couldnt even do a shit about ISID and finally asked army airforce to bomb them in iraq to prevent them to capture the samera and karbala??

do you want we compare the Commanding battles during 8 years war?

this is the Order of battle of the Iraqi army in the start of invasion to Iran.


1st Army Corps (sector between Rawanduz and Marivan)

• 7th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq)
• 11th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq) (-) (113th Infantry Brigade)

2nd Army Corps (sector between Qasre-e-Shirin, Ilam, and Mehran, armor deployed between Mehran and Dezful)

• 6th Armored Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 9th Armored Division (HQ Samavah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 2nd Infantry Division (HQ Kirkuk, Iraq)
• 4th Infantry Division (HQ Mosul, Iraq)
• 6th Infantry Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq)
• 8th Infantry Division (HQ Arbil, Iraq)

3rd Army Corps (HQ al-Qurnah, Iraq) (Sector between Dezful and Abadan)

• 3rd Armored Division (HQ Tikrit, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 12th Armored Division (HQ Dohuk, Iraq) (Held in Reserve) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 1st Mechanized Division (HQ Divaniyah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 5th Mechanized Division (HQ Basrah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 31st Independent Special Forces Brigade (-) (2 battalions) (one was attached to 5th MD, another to 3rd AD),
• 33rd Independent Special Forces Brigade
• 10th Independent Armored Brigade (T-72) (BMP-1)
• 12th Independent Armored Brigade (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 113th Infantry Brigade (Detachments) (From 11th Infantry Division)

1. سپاه اول(بین راوندوز و مریوان)

a. لشکر هفتم پیاده

b. لشکر یازدهم پیاده(منهای تیپ113 پیاده)

2. سپاه دوم(بین قصر شیرین، ایلام، مهران و دزفول)

a. لشکر ششم زرهی300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر نهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

c. لشکر دهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر دوم پیاده

e. لشکر چهارم پیاده

f. لشکر ششم پیاده

g. لشکر هشتم پیاده

3. سپاه سوم(بین دزفول و آبادان)

a. لشکر سوم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر دهم زره 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه(ظاهرا این واحد در دو محور عمل کرده)

c. لشکر دوازدهم زرهی(ذخیره ی سپاه سوم) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر اول مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

e. لشکر پنجم مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

f. تیپ 31ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص منهای دو گردان(یک گردان به لشکر پنجم مکانیزه و دیگری به لشکر سوم زرهی ملحق شده بودند)

g. تیپ 33ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص

h. تیپ مستقل دهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

i. تیپ مستقل دوازدهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

j. تیپ 113 پیاده (از لشکر یازدهم پیاده)

جنگها و تاریخ - سازمان رزم عراق در هنگام حمله به ایران

only over 2200 ! tanks took a part in the invasion, forget about hundred thousands infantrymen. do you think saddam was delusional that said he would be in tehran less than a week? waves over waves tanks were coming, who stopped them in the border area? you or other useless Bearded who were slaughtering army personnel? that time even there wasnt a proper organization to name IRGC. let alone rest of the war that how IRGC Commanded and designed operations.


and nowadays IRGC is look like a corrupted fractious child who receives everything he demands while their efficiency is very low.

when our army and only good trained forces are lack of budget to buy some new equipment, when they take celebration for delivering 2 overhauled and repainted old howitzers to ground forces, lots of money is wasting for basijis to play with. every day new camouflage, new guns with new patterns, while they even have not trained well. everyday coming to the headquarters! near mosque to have fun and take some new pictures and play with them.


majority of army personnel have 2 jobs as being taxi driver, hand seller and ...
this is what happens when a corrupted system and organization take control of the country.

at the end, look at the parades to see who cant even walk.

 

[scythian500]

These are what Iranian soldiers will use in future:

 

[بلندر]

 

[scythian500]

Ive seen you posted several times nonsense in Iranian forum, but never tried to waste my time for you, but here, you started to insult army while some beardeds even have not simple discipline in their organization. it seems you forgot the main defence forces to protect the country is army and whenever IRGC cant clean its own shit, they beg army to help them. what happened for IRGC su-25s in iraq? do they think only buying toys and fly with them is enough? they couldnt even do a shit about ISID and finally asked army airforce to bomb them in iraq to prevent them to capture the samera and karbala??

do you want we compare the Commanding battles during 8 years war?

this is the Order of battle of the Iraqi army in the start of invasion to Iran.


1st Army Corps (sector between Rawanduz and Marivan)

• 7th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq)
• 11th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq) (-) (113th Infantry Brigade)

2nd Army Corps (sector between Qasre-e-Shirin, Ilam, and Mehran, armor deployed between Mehran and Dezful)

• 6th Armored Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 9th Armored Division (HQ Samavah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 2nd Infantry Division (HQ Kirkuk, Iraq)
• 4th Infantry Division (HQ Mosul, Iraq)
• 6th Infantry Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq)
• 8th Infantry Division (HQ Arbil, Iraq)

3rd Army Corps (HQ al-Qurnah, Iraq) (Sector between Dezful and Abadan)

• 3rd Armored Division (HQ Tikrit, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 12th Armored Division (HQ Dohuk, Iraq) (Held in Reserve) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 1st Mechanized Division (HQ Divaniyah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 5th Mechanized Division (HQ Basrah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 31st Independent Special Forces Brigade (-) (2 battalions) (one was attached to 5th MD, another to 3rd AD),
• 33rd Independent Special Forces Brigade
• 10th Independent Armored Brigade (T-72) (BMP-1)
• 12th Independent Armored Brigade (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 113th Infantry Brigade (Detachments) (From 11th Infantry Division)

1. سپاه اول(بین راوندوز و مریوان)

a. لشکر هفتم پیاده

b. لشکر یازدهم پیاده(منهای تیپ113 پیاده)

2. سپاه دوم(بین قصر شیرین، ایلام، مهران و دزفول)

a. لشکر ششم زرهی300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر نهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

c. لشکر دهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر دوم پیاده

e. لشکر چهارم پیاده

f. لشکر ششم پیاده

g. لشکر هشتم پیاده

3. سپاه سوم(بین دزفول و آبادان)

a. لشکر سوم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر دهم زره 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه(ظاهرا این واحد در دو محور عمل کرده)

c. لشکر دوازدهم زرهی(ذخیره ی سپاه سوم) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر اول مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

e. لشکر پنجم مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

f. تیپ 31ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص منهای دو گردان(یک گردان به لشکر پنجم مکانیزه و دیگری به لشکر سوم زرهی ملحق شده بودند)

g. تیپ 33ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص

h. تیپ مستقل دهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

i. تیپ مستقل دوازدهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

j. تیپ 113 پیاده (از لشکر یازدهم پیاده)

جنگها و تاریخ - سازمان رزم عراق در هنگام حمله به ایران

only over 2200 ! tanks took a part in the invasion, forget about hundred thousands infantrymen. do you think saddam was delusional that said he would be in tehran less than a week? waves over waves tanks were coming, who stopped them in the border area? you or other useless Bearded who were slaughtering army personnel? that time even there wasnt a proper organization to name IRGC. let alone rest of the war that how IRGC Commanded and designed operations.


and nowadays IRGC is look like a corrupted fractious child who receives everything he demands while their efficiency is very low.

when our army and only good trained forces are lack of budget to buy some new equipment, when they take celebration for delivering 2 overhauled and repainted old howitzers to ground forces, lots of money is wasting for basijis to play with. every day new camouflage, new guns with new patterns, while they even have not trained well. everyday coming to the headquarters! near mosque to have fun and take some new pictures and play with them.


majority of army personnel have 2 jobs as being taxi driver, hand seller and ...
this is what happens when a corrupted system and organization take control of the country.

at the end, look at the parades to see who cant even walk.

your response is as irrelevant as insulting army or IRGC... these two both are effective and each has its own unique dis/advantages... Bearded ones are not useless.. I can bet in future war these useless bearded men will be the first to step in with the first call... Army men and IRGC men are both soldiers and children of Iran and will fight like a lion when the time comes...

In charto parta ro mitoonesti be farsi ham benevisi agar hadafet sohbat ba mohsen bood...dorost nist asabanyate khosoosi beine do nafar ham vatan beshe source etela,ate gheire irooni ha ke shart mibandam hamashoon doost daran sar be tane tak take iroonia nabashe...

sharmande tond raftam vali postet agar mokhatabexh mohsene bayad dakheli bemoone... harchand aslan na harfaye mohsen va na shoma fair va ba ensaf nist

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thats a chinese origin machine gun... do you make chinese weapons under license? Also noticed Type-52-2 rifles.. (small arms-- i know about noor aka C series Anti ship missiles)...

 

[بلندر]

Thats a chinese origin machine gun... do you make chinese weapons under license? Also noticed Type-52-2 rifles.. (small arms-- i know about noor aka C series Anti ship missiles)...

I'm not an expert ... so I don't know ...

 

[mohsen]

Ive seen you posted several times nonsense in Iranian forum, but never tried to waste my time for you, but here, you started to insult army while some beardeds even have not simple discipline in their organization. it seems you forgot the main defence forces to protect the country is army and whenever IRGC cant clean its own shit, they beg army to help them. what happened for IRGC su-25s in iraq? do they think only buying toys and fly with them is enough? they couldnt even do a shit about ISID and finally asked army airforce to bomb them in iraq to prevent them to capture the samera and karbala??

do you want we compare the Commanding battles during 8 years war?

this is the Order of battle of the Iraqi army in the start of invasion to Iran.


1st Army Corps (sector between Rawanduz and Marivan)

• 7th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq)
• 11th Infantry Division (HQ Sulaimaniyah, Iraq) (-) (113th Infantry Brigade)

2nd Army Corps (sector between Qasre-e-Shirin, Ilam, and Mehran, armor deployed between Mehran and Dezful)

• 6th Armored Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 9th Armored Division (HQ Samavah, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 2nd Infantry Division (HQ Kirkuk, Iraq)
• 4th Infantry Division (HQ Mosul, Iraq)
• 6th Infantry Division (HQ Baqubah, Iraq)
• 8th Infantry Division (HQ Arbil, Iraq)

3rd Army Corps (HQ al-Qurnah, Iraq) (Sector between Dezful and Abadan)

• 3rd Armored Division (HQ Tikrit, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• ?10th Armored Division (HQ Baghdad, Iraq) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 12th Armored Division (HQ Dohuk, Iraq) (Held in Reserve) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 1st Mechanized Division (HQ Divaniyah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 5th Mechanized Division (HQ Basrah, Iraq) 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)
• 31st Independent Special Forces Brigade (-) (2 battalions) (one was attached to 5th MD, another to 3rd AD),
• 33rd Independent Special Forces Brigade
• 10th Independent Armored Brigade (T-72) (BMP-1)
• 12th Independent Armored Brigade (T-62) (BMP-1)
• 113th Infantry Brigade (Detachments) (From 11th Infantry Division)

1. سپاه اول(بین راوندوز و مریوان)

a. لشکر هفتم پیاده

b. لشکر یازدهم پیاده(منهای تیپ113 پیاده)

2. سپاه دوم(بین قصر شیرین، ایلام، مهران و دزفول)

a. لشکر ششم زرهی300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر نهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

c. لشکر دهم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر دوم پیاده

e. لشکر چهارم پیاده

f. لشکر ششم پیاده

g. لشکر هشتم پیاده

3. سپاه سوم(بین دزفول و آبادان)

a. لشکر سوم زرهی 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

b. لشکر دهم زره 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه(ظاهرا این واحد در دو محور عمل کرده)

c. لشکر دوازدهم زرهی(ذخیره ی سپاه سوم) 300 (T-62) (BMP-1)دستگاه

d. لشکر اول مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

e. لشکر پنجم مکانیزه 200 (T-55) (Czech OT-64 APC/BTR-50 APC)دستگاه

f. تیپ 31ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص منهای دو گردان(یک گردان به لشکر پنجم مکانیزه و دیگری به لشکر سوم زرهی ملحق شده بودند)

g. تیپ 33ام مستقل نیروی مخصوص

h. تیپ مستقل دهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

i. تیپ مستقل دوازدهم زرهی(T-72) (BMP-1)

j. تیپ 113 پیاده (از لشکر یازدهم پیاده)

جنگها و تاریخ - سازمان رزم عراق در هنگام حمله به ایران

only over 2200 ! tanks took a part in the invasion, forget about hundred thousands infantrymen. do you think saddam was delusional that said he would be in tehran less than a week? waves over waves tanks were coming, who stopped them in the border area? you or other useless Bearded who were slaughtering army personnel? that time even there wasnt a proper organization to name IRGC. let alone rest of the war that how IRGC Commanded and designed operations.


and nowadays IRGC is look like a corrupted fractious child who receives everything he demands while their efficiency is very low.

when our army and only good trained forces are lack of budget to buy some new equipment, when they take celebration for delivering 2 overhauled and repainted old howitzers to ground forces, lots of money is wasting for basijis to play with. every day new camouflage, new guns with new patterns, while they even have not trained well. everyday coming to the headquarters! near mosque to have fun and take some new pictures and play with them.


majority of army personnel have 2 jobs as being taxi driver, hand seller and ...
this is what happens when a corrupted system and organization take control of the country.

at the end, look at the parades to see who cant even walk.

I have seen your nonsenses too, and I don't waste my time on you at all.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I'm not an expert ... so I don't know ...

Well we also use and produce both weapons (Type rifle - discontinued).. so it was interesting to see Iran using them..

These are what Iranian soldiers will use in future:

Khyber 2000? failed..

The last kit is actually a Roni kit (available in market)... Fajr rifle? looks kinda nice-- AK type rifle?

 

[بلندر]

Well we also use and produce both weapons (Type rifle - discontinued).. so it was interesting to see Iran using them..

well , from what I read and hear , we begin many project with Chinese but they almost in all projects , abandoned it .... but we had to continue those projects and we did it but with extra difficulty and spending more money ...