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After a long debate, the highest levels of the military could not forecast a way in which things would end favourably for the United States,” said Richard Clarke, counter-terrorism adviser in the White House under three administrations.

That was back in 2007, and he was talking about the Pentagon’s attempts to come up with a winning strategy for a U.S. war with Iran. No matter how they gamed it, the U.S. lost.

Two years later, in 2009, U.S. Marine General Tony Zinni warned that any attack on Iran would lead inexorably to “boots on the ground.”

“If you liked Iraq and Afghanistan,” he added drily, “you’ll love Iran.”

And in 2011 Meir Dagan, former head of Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, said that an attack on Iran was “the stupidest idea” he had ever heard.

This was all back in the days when various people in the West were talking far too loosely about war with Iran, because the Iranian president at the time was a loud-mouthed extremist named Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Then he lost the 2013 election and was replaced by a moderate reformer, Hassan Rouhani.

Rouhani stopped all the aggressive talk, and in 2015 he cut a deal with most of the world’s major powers to put Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions, if any, on ice for at least 15 years. Everything then went quiet until another loud-mouthed extremist, Donald Trump, tore up the 2015 agreement and began talking about war with Iran again.

He doesn’t necessarily mean it.

What Trump says on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays he often recants on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. (To make matters even more inscrutable, his threat to bring about “the end of Iran” was made last Sunday, and there are no rules for Sundays.)

But he is surrounded by people who sound like they really are looking for a fight with Iran.

To be fair, Vice-President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are probably telling themselves that plausibly terrifying U.S. threats will suffice to make Iran crumble.

Only National Security Adviser John Bolton understands that the threats will cause Iranian reactions that can then be used as an excuse for an actual attack (and he’s just fine with that).

So is the scenario of a U.S. attack on Iran, with or without Saudi Arabian and Israeli help, still as hopeless a project as it was 10 years ago?

It’s not hopeless at all if you just drop nuclear weapons on the 20 biggest Iranian cities. That’s not enough to cause a nuclear winter, but quite enough to kill between a quarter and a half of Iran’s 80 million people.

If you do that (and either the United States or Israel could do it single-handed), the Iranians will never come back for a re-match.

But neither the United States or Israel is going to do that.

It would make them literally the enemies of all mankind.

And short of doing that, there are no good options for winning a war against Iran, because (as in all “asymmetric” conflicts) the Iranians don’t need a winning strategy. All they have to do is not lose.

The United States could certainly bomb all of Iran’s military and industrial facilities to rubble. But this would not force the Iranians to surrender, nor would it prevent Iran’s sea-skimming missiles, fired from mobile launchers anywhere along 3,000 kilometres of coastline, from stopping all the tankers going into and out of the Persian Gulf. (They carry about 20 per cent of the world’s oil.)

So in the end it would have to be “boots on the ground,” just as Zinni said — but the ground war is unwinnable, too.

Iran’s army is about the same size as that of the United States, but it could quickly expand to 10 times that size with volunteers, just as it did during the U.S.-backed Iraqi invasion of Iran in 1980-88.

The Iranian volunteers would be poorly armed and they would die in droves, but if only one American soldier died for every 10 Iranians, the U.S. public would quickly reach its maximum tolerance level for American casualties. It would be a high-speed replay of the Vietnam war, and the U.S. would lose again.

On Tuesday they wheeled out Acting U.S. Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan to say it’s OK. Don’t panic. The grown-ups are still in charge. Our timely threats have deterred the Iranians from doing the evil things they were planning to do (or rather that we said they were planning to do), and so there’s no danger of a war.

I’d really like to believe him. But actually, nobody’s in charge.

Gwynne Dyer’s new book is “Growing Pains: The Future of Democracy (and Work).”
 
one of the greatist inovations of our ground force:
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this drone has 5 km range, day/night vision and can carry up to 8 kg of payload.
the bombs are actually shaped charge bomblets of british made BL755 cluster bombs that iran produces with name of simorgh. each one of this bomblets have almost 1.18 kg, so each drone can carry up to ~7 bombs.
this is the dream of any infantry man and any war planner goal, a cheap and always available air support of foot soldiers. if iranian MOD manage to arm half of it's ground units with this drones, it would increase the lethality of army at least 2 times against their adversary, whether it's a mechanized unit, ground unit or even armored unit. also it increases a foot squad reach at least three times.

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guys do you have any idea how much one of these drones cost in market??
 
one of the greatist inovations of our ground force:
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this drone has 5 km range, day/night vision and can carry up to 8 kg of payload.
the bombs are actually shaped charge bomblets of british made BL755 cluster bombs that iran produces with name of simorgh. each one of this bomblets have almost 1.18 kg, so each drone can carry up to ~7 bombs.
this is the dream of any infantry man and any war planner goal, a cheap and always available air support of foot soldiers. if iranian MOD manage to arm half of it's ground units with this drones, it would increase the lethality of army at least 2 times against their adversary, whether it's a mechanized unit, ground unit or even armored unit. also it increases a foot squad reach at least three times.

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guys do you have any idea how much one of these drones cost in market??

i think around 30/000/000 toman


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one of the greatist inovations of our ground force:
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this drone has 5 km range, day/night vision and can carry up to 8 kg of payload.
the bombs are actually shaped charge bomblets of british made BL755 cluster bombs that iran produces with name of simorgh. each one of this bomblets have almost 1.18 kg, so each drone can carry up to ~7 bombs.
this is the dream of any infantry man and any war planner goal, a cheap and always available air support of foot soldiers. if iranian MOD manage to arm half of it's ground units with this drones, it would increase the lethality of army at least 2 times against their adversary, whether it's a mechanized unit, ground unit or even armored unit. also it increases a foot squad reach at least three times.

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guys do you have any idea how much one of these drones cost in market??

So the greatest invention of Iran’s armed forces is what ISIS and terrorist groups in Syria/Iraq were doing with off the shelf drones?

This is not groundbreaking in anyway and a simple anti drone gun would eliminate it. Plus iran already had small “suicide drones” anyway.
 
So the greatest invention of Iran’s armed forces is what ISIS and terrorist groups in Syria/Iraq were doing with off the shelf drones?

This is not groundbreaking in anyway and a simple anti drone gun would eliminate it. Plus iran already had small “suicide drones” anyway.


these drones are the future.
ISIS and terrorist groups in Syria/Iraq were doing with off the shelf drones?
US gonna come with these kind of drones in next few years.
This is not groundbreaking in anyway and a simple anti drone gun would eliminate it
well first of all the anti drone gun is a jammer that if soldiers notice the drone gonna use it, secondly it means the enemy should build or acquire them, thirdly you can use encrypted signals to guide and receive data.
the probability that enemy gonna deter our drone should not be considered, it's like US commanders saying why decrease the RCS of a plane, enemies can detect it with IRSTs.
This is not groundbreaking in anyway
a soldier max reach is 3 km with a mortar, this drone has 5 km range....
Plus iran already had small “suicide drones” anyway.
suicide drones are good but this drone is not for one time uses, beside SDs are heavy.

also it enables you to have a idea of what's going on in the battlefield by looking at it in day or night. if we manage to equip each of our army squads with it i'm telling you it's gonna be ground breaking.
 
this is a new concept: "Man Portable Air Force"
i'm wondering what would happen if we add helium filled capsules to it??
there are so many ideas that we can fill to this, even miniature turboshaft engines. this concept is a magic lamp.
 
this is a new concept: "Man Portable Air Force"
i'm wondering what would happen if we add helium filled capsules to it??
there are so many ideas that we can fill to this, even miniature turboshaft engines. this concept is a magic lamp.
I love the idea of "man portable airforce"..This Drone is a great asset in the tactical level..ideal for increasing the enemy human casualty in the field (weak under belly of the US military)..perfect for proxy wars that Iran is waging against enemies....Iranian military planners showing their innovative approaches to the war..:cheesy:
 
I love the idea of "man portable airforce"..This Drone is a great asset in the tactical level..ideal for increasing the enemy human casualty in the field (weak under belly of the US military)..perfect for proxy wars that Iran is waging against enemies....Iranian military planners showing their innovative approaches to the war..:cheesy:
beside of proxies it establishes a layer of air superiority between the fighter jets and ground forces and fills the gap. similar to helicopters.
 
honestly if they used Yasir for such operation instead of a quad-copter it would have been more interesting ,it would have carried half the payload but it was a lot faster and the range would have increased to 100km and it could have loiter on battlefield and drop the munition when needed.
 
honestly if they used Yasir for such operation instead of a quad-copter it would have been more interesting ,it would have carried half the payload but it was a lot faster and the range would have increased to 100km and it could have loiter on battlefield and drop the munition when needed.
well i was doing some math last night, with 120 MD=one f-22/35 investment, each squad of army (12 people) would receive 2.6 of these drones. in other word we can have one quadcopter and one farpad or yaser like drones or even kamikaze ones per squad.
it means you can have cake, you can eat it and have affair with the one who baked it.:enjoy::enjoy:
 
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farpad drone:
flight endurance:45 min
range:20 km
weight: ~4 kg
if we manage to make such drones with reduced weight and fill them with explosive and arm our army with them, it will be ground breaking in battles.
 
well i was doing some math last night, with 120 MD=one f-22/35 investment, each squad of army (12 people) would receive 2.6 of these drones. in other word we can have one quadcopter and one farpad or yaser like drones or even kamikaze ones per squad.
it means you can have cake, you can eat it and have affair with the one who baked it.:enjoy::enjoy:
If you like that,then you`ll love this,check it out:
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Yes,that is a 40mm drone thats designed to be fired out of a grenade launcher.Now just imagine one of those 40mm automatic grenade launchers fitted out with these...wham,bam,instant drone swarm.:guns::guns::guns:
Now I dont know how practical this really is or if it can carry a worthwhile payload or if its just intended for short range recon without letting the enemy know you`re around.However its cool factor is off the charts :enjoy:.
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/05/24/sofic-19-defendtex-drone-40/
 
If you like that,then you`ll love this,check it out:
img_9166.jpg

Yes,that is a 40mm drone thats designed to be fired out of a grenade launcher.Now just imagine one of those 40mm automatic grenade launchers fitted out with these...wham,bam,instant drone swarm.:guns::guns::guns:
Now I dont know how practical this really is or if it can carry a worthwhile payload or if its just intended for short range recon without letting the enemy know you`re around.However its cool factor is off the charts :enjoy:.
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/05/24/sofic-19-defendtex-drone-40/
it's cool but i can't see any EO sensor on it??
 

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