Iranian Drones vs Turkish Drones: Comparing Technology And Efficiency

[Hack-Hook]

Sir I asked for some credible proof.
S-136 is not designed to destroy mig-29s may be some accidental collision occured.
Regarding Karrar,it destroyed a drone not fighter jet that too in controlled conditions

Against mig-29

Ukraine Confirms 1st Known Case Of Fighter Jet Going Down To A Kamikaze Drone; EurAsian Times' Assessment Hits Bulls Eye!

Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet has been brought down by the Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drone used by the Russian military.

www.eurasiantimes.com

Ukraine Claims MiG-29 Pilot Downed Five Drones Before Ejecting

Accounts from the Ukrainian Air Force provide further indications of a burgeoning aerial drone war being fought over the country.

www.thedrive.com

Historic! A kamikaze drone downs a fighter aircraft, Ukrainian MiG-29 crashes trying to shoot an Iranian Shahed-136

Probably for the first time in history, a fighter aircraft was lost trying to shoot down a kamikaze drone in actual

frontierindia.com

and then again against su-27

2nd Kill For Suicide Drone! Russian Kamikaze UAV ‘Downs’ Ukrainian Sukhoi Su-27 Fighter Jet, Pilot Killed

An Iranian-origin kamikaze drone has reportedly taken down a Ukrainian air force’s Sukhoi Su-27 fighter, killing the pilot. The Su-27 and its pilot are only the second set of victims of Iranian-origin loitering munitions since the Russia-Ukraine war began over a year ago. The first combat jet...

www.eurasiantimes.com

the ad-08 is a proper air defense missile not man-pad missile . did you expect Iran test the platform against a fighter . the missile is designed to engage fighters and now it will be fired from drones

 

[White and Green with M/S]

for example GaN based AESA Radar on AKINCI UCAV which is the first in the world

for example AKINCI UCAV fired supersonic Ballistic Missile which is the first in the world

for example AKINCI UCAV fired a modern Cruise Missile which is the first in the world

for example TB-2 UCAVs kill record included 48 SAMs including in Ukraine ...

for example great fire power of Turkish UCAVs to compare with other UCAVs in the World

for example KIZILELMA made a formation flight with a manned Jet ( F-16 ) which is the first in the world


But as always you can not discuss like a real man
you can say only "lol" like a silly boy

These you called technical aspects of discussion you're talking about lol I called this a self praising discussions with no technical input

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Against mig-29

Ukraine Confirms 1st Known Case Of Fighter Jet Going Down To A Kamikaze Drone; EurAsian Times' Assessment Hits Bulls Eye!

Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet has been brought down by the Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drone used by the Russian military.

www.eurasiantimes.com

Ukraine Claims MiG-29 Pilot Downed Five Drones Before Ejecting

Accounts from the Ukrainian Air Force provide further indications of a burgeoning aerial drone war being fought over the country.

www.thedrive.com

Historic! A kamikaze drone downs a fighter aircraft, Ukrainian MiG-29 crashes trying to shoot an Iranian Shahed-136

Probably for the first time in history, a fighter aircraft was lost trying to shoot down a kamikaze drone in actual

frontierindia.com

and then again against su-27

2nd Kill For Suicide Drone! Russian Kamikaze UAV ‘Downs’ Ukrainian Sukhoi Su-27 Fighter Jet, Pilot Killed

An Iranian-origin kamikaze drone has reportedly taken down a Ukrainian air force’s Sukhoi Su-27 fighter, killing the pilot. The Su-27 and its pilot are only the second set of victims of Iranian-origin loitering munitions since the Russia-Ukraine war began over a year ago. The first combat jet...

www.eurasiantimes.com

the ad-08 is a proper air defense missile not man-pad missile . did you expect Iran test the platform against a fighter . the missile is designed to engage fighters and now it will be fired from drones

TheDrive is a credible source
Here is what it reported:
The Shahed-136 has no means of engaging a hostile aircraft in the air, although it’s conceivable that a fighter jet could collide with one, ingesting it into its engines or taking a critical hit sufficient to bring it down.
Looking at the video evidence, however, that is not the case here. The MiG-29 itself fires a missile, with its telltale missile exhaust plume visible, which then streaks off ahead of it. There’s nothing in this footage to say with any certainty that the MiG was attacking a drone. While it remains possible this footage does show the jet that was involved with the multiple drone kills and subsequent ejection, and it may have been engaging a drone, there’s simply no evidence that this was the moment it was lost. This would also not be the first time a snippet of video showing a confused air combat situation has led to some mistaken or extravagant claims. Such is the ‘fog of war’ in the social media age.

the missile is designed to engage fighters and now it will be fired from drones

Drones have very little situational awareness.
I doubt karrar carries enough sensors to detect and engage fighter jets.

 

[MMM-E]

I replied to your specific comment that said South Korea had no hardkill APS.
You changed the post to "in active service" and then accused me of trolling.

You replied with your ignorance as always

You didn know that USA-Germany-S.Korea dont have any APS in service
ignorant wikipedia boy

You're either a liar or just too dumb to understand what we are talking about.

Later Legionnaire replied to your post. You never said "hardkill":

You are both knows nothing about military

No need to say hardkill
Russian ARENA , Israeli TROPHY and Turkish AKKOR are hardkill APSs
real military experts very well knows about it


ignorant wikipedia boys says even Syria has APS ...

 

[MMM-E]

Against mig-29

Ukraine Confirms 1st Known Case Of Fighter Jet Going Down To A Kamikaze Drone; EurAsian Times' Assessment Hits Bulls Eye!

Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet has been brought down by the Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drone used by the Russian military.

www.eurasiantimes.com

Very interesting

-- S-136 is low speed Drone with max speed of 185 km/h
-- S-136 doesnt have E/O Camera or Active radar homing to find Fighter Jets
-- S-136 doesnt have data-link and man-in-the-loop capability to be controlled by Drone Pilot

how can a dumb and low speed kamikaze Drone hit a Fighter Jet ?

Ukranian Jets are sleeping ?
No Radar ?
No air to air Missiles ?

 

[Sineva]

Iranian dumb kamikaze Drones are killing innocent people and terrorize people in Ukraine

on the other hand Turkish TB-2 used MAM-L laser guided munition to hit only military equipment

and TB-2 UCAVs destroyed over 1.000 military equipment including 48 SAMs in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and Ukraine

Heres a frame by frame composite shot of an iranian qaem-5 drone launched glide bomb hitting its target,you can clearly see from this just how accurate it is.
One of the reasons that irans drone launched munitions are so accurate is because the bulk of them use their own optronic seekers.Turkish drone launched munitions,such as the mam-l,requires active laser illumination of the target.
The obvious down side of this,is that at a minimum,it does potentially give some degree of advance warning to whomever you are trying to attack.

Interestingly the turks look to be producing their own versions of "iranian dumb kamikaze drones",I guess that they know a good idea when they see it.....unlike you,eh?
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/turkey-develops-replica-of-shahed-136-kamikaze-drone/

 

[Sineva]

Very interesting

-- S-136 is low speed Drone with max speed of 185 km/h
-- S-136 doesnt have E/O Camera or Active radar homing to find Fighter Jets
-- S-136 doesnt have data-link and man-in-the-loop capability to be controlled by Drone Pilot

how can a dumb and low speed kamikaze Drone hit a Fighter Jet ?

Ukranian Jets are sleeping ?
No Radar ?
No air to air Missiles ?

Most likely debris from the drone caused critical damage to the fighter.

 

[MMM-E]

.Turkish drone launched munitions,such as the mam-l,requires active laser illumination of the target.

Turkiye is MASTER of guided Bomb and Missiles


Iranians can show images edited on computer

Turks can show real videos to hit the target with pinpoint accuracy ( below 1 m ) from 100+ km away

NO laser or IIR seeker .. just INS-GPS

AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs carry KGK-82/83 guided Bombs

HGK-84 INS-GPS guided Bomb hit the target with pinpoint accuracy ( below 1 m )

Miniature Bomb hit the target with pinpoint accuracy ( below 1 m )

Turkish UCAVs fires Missiles with Laser , IIR and RF seeker ( range of 15-25-30-40-60-80-150-180-280 km ) to hit everything including Warships and Air Defense Systems


MAM-L with IIR seeker

Length : 0.95 m
Diameter : 160 mm
Weight : 23 kg
Range : 25+ km
Guidance : IIR seeker , RF Data Link

 

[MMM-E]

Most likely debris from the drone caused critical damage to the fighter.

Iran or Russia can not control S-136 to explode it in the Air
( No E/O Camera , No Active radar homing seeker and NO datalink )

GPS-INS guided S-136 kamikaze Drone can hit Fighter Jet on the ground

 

[MMM-E]

Interestingly the turks look to be producing their own versions of "iranian dumb kamikaze drones",I guess that they know a good idea when they see it.....unlike you,eh?

Iranian S-136 is a dumb kamikaze Drone without E/O Camera


Superior Turkish AZAB has Camera

1-- With the help of the operator, you can guide AZAB with its camera from a 200 km line of sight and take it to the target yourself

2-- At the same time, it can directly reach and destroy its target with the GPS coordinates you provide.

-- Range 500 km
-- Max speed 278 km/h
-- full of composite material for stealth flight capability
-- anti-jamming capability
-- Oto pilot technology
-- 200 km line of sight capability
-- low flying capability with real time live imaging via E/O Camera

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638456670958305284

there are also mini AZAB version

 

[MMM-E]

Interestingly the turks look to be producing their own versions of "iranian dumb kamikaze drones",I guess that they know a good idea when they see it.....unlike you,eh?

Turkish KARGI anti-radiation Drone ... only Turkiye in NATO

Range : 800 km
home-of-jam capability
RF seeker
SATCOM communication
Datalink
SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses)
DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses)

All critical subsystems such as navigation and automatic flight control system , software , warhead , RF Seeker, Engine, Booster, Link System, Propeller and Fuel Tank were developed completely by Turkiye

Kamikaze Drone version with E/O Camera

 

[Hack-Hook]

Looking at the video evidence, however, that is not the case here. The MiG-29 itself fires a missile, with its telltale missile exhaust plume visible, which then streaks off ahead of it. There’s nothing in this footage to say with any certainty that the MiG was attacking a drone. While it remains possible this footage does show the jet that was involved with the multiple drone kills and subsequent ejection, and it may have been engaging a drone, there’s simply no evidence that this was the moment it was lost. This would also not be the first time a snippet of video showing a confused air combat situation has led to some mistaken or extravagant claims. Such is the ‘fog of war’ in the social media age.

that footage is unrelated and later surfaced . you read the drive but ignore Ukraine admitting it happened

Drones have very little situational awareness.
I doubt karrar carries enough sensors to detect and engage fighter jets.

i wonder how much situational awareness these SAMs have

unlike what a certain person think here only a certain country in the region is aware of the existence of network centered warfare, its a decade that Iran air defense is network centered , the drone have Datalink and have access to all data that any RADAR in Iran have access and the missile itself after being fired have access to its own sensors

 

[Hack-Hook]

Very interesting

-- S-136 is low speed Drone with max speed of 185 km/h
-- S-136 doesnt have E/O Camera or Active radar homing to find Fighter Jets
-- S-136 doesnt have data-link and man-in-the-loop capability to be controlled by Drone Pilot

how can a dumb and low speed kamikaze Drone hit a Fighter Jet ?

Ukranian Jets are sleeping ?
No Radar ?
No air to air Missiles ?

ask Ukraine , they lost two mig-29 and one su-24 to the drone. actually Israel also nearly lost one f-16 to the drone (the pilot was just more competent and managed to save f-16 just fraction of second out of the harm way

if you search the net about the first incident there is a video of an Ukrainian pilot who explain why this happens
A hint for you it has something to do with this and before you say anything the source is independent not iranian

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572590167218884608

 

[ROKOR]

You replied with your ignorance as always
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You didn know that USA-Germany-S.Korea dont have any APS in service
ignorant wikipedia boy



You are both knows nothing about military

No need to say hardkill
Russian ARENA , Israeli TROPHY and Turkish AKKOR are hardkill APSs
real military experts very well knows about it


ignorant wikipedia boys says even Syria has APS ...

Koreans developed KAPS hard-kill a decade ago and decided not to install (costs & danger for nearby infantry). AKKOR isn‘t in service either. Exactly 2 Yeni Altay tanks with AKKOR installed were delivered to Turkish army in 2023 for 2 years test and trials. With Korean power pack (diesel engine and transmission). Serial production of Altay will - fingers crossed - start in 2025 if the BMC power pack is ready (also still in trials).

Turkish army gets revamped indigenous main battle tank for trials

Türkiye’s army has received what officials dubb one of the most modern main battle tanks in the world that will undergo testing in the period ahead...

www.dailysabah.com

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iranians can show images edited on computer

very much like the fact you think that .
it happened with rq-4 when they claimed before that our air defense is just Photoshop and for domestic propaganda. after hitting RQ-4 without turning the radar of 3rd of khordad on and at the range of more than 70km and altitude above 40000 feet without it or the aircraft accompanying it become aware they are being targeted or become aware of the missile which was racing toward them or there is any air defense in the region and deploy their defensive measure which is the most advanced in the world for the drones .

Iran or Russia can not control S-136 to explode it in the Air
( No E/O Camera , No Active radar homing seeker and NO datalink )

GPS-INS guided S-136 kamikaze Drone can hit Fighter Jet on the ground

actually shahed-136 can change its target and even detonated at will , it only need another Iranian drone in the area to tell it do that

Iranian S-136 is a dumb kamikaze Drone without E/O Camera

that dumb drone twice have hit moving ships in middle of red sea hundreds of km away from Iran , that is 15-20 hours of flight without target and that is 15-20 hours of ship sailing from where the drone launched it translate in a circle with hundreds of km radius, now explain that to us . and bring for us example of sophisticated and advanced turkish drones managed to do that
how the drone managed to do that if it is that blind and dumb.