Iran warns: will hit militant 'safe havens' inside Pakistan

[Mutakalim]

Ok iran has anything to domwith islam ?

Nothing to do with Islam. Its just a game of power.

 

[Mav3rick]

I don't understand what Iran wants to do.

Their FM came to Pakistan, and held great talks, and got a pledge for great cooperation from Pakistan.

Instead of following up on that, they make another belligerent, jingoistic statement against Pakistan.

The Pakistani state has never threatened Iran this way. Their nuclear program development is because of Pakistan.

Iran is getting isolated in the world, and doesn't have any friends or allies. Pakistan and the Pakistani people appreciate Iran, we are the only country in the world where the majority of the population view them favorably.

Yet, instead of working with us, they release these jingoistic statements. Pakistan and Pakistanis like Iran, but that does not mean that we take kindly to threats being made against us. We aren't perfect, but we are facing many threats through the WOT in Afghanistan; and it would be better for Iran to work with us.

Iranians do not reciprocate, they prefer Indians over Pakistanis any day.

In response to the Iranian Military Chief's threat, the COAS should have clarified that Pakistan will be extremely sad but will still return any and all Iranian soldiers, who cross the border, in body bags!

But, before any of that, Pakistan should have bombed Afghanistan for atleast a week, day in and day out, to the point where these Afghan BAST**** learn their lesson and never repeat their cowardly acts again. Our response was negligible!

 

[Solomon2]

Who is going to define the "terrorists". For your info the resolution 1373 failed to define terrorists.

That is a deficiency of the Resolution. However, the U.S. defines terrorism as, "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

Where does it say that nations soverinity can be challenged by any Tom dick and Harry using the pretext of terrorism?

The SC's remit is security and the Resolution invokes Chapter 7 of the Charter, making it the binding sovereign obligation upon U.N. member-states. No action by Pakistan = no rights to claim sovereignty with regards to other member-states' attacking terrorists on Pakistani soil.

For us, the men sitting on PM chairs in new Delhi and tel Aviv are jet black terrorist -

You have the right to your own opinions but not your own facts - meaning you don't have the right to re-define the terms used by others for your own convenience, nor portray peace-loving peoples as violent as a pretext for robbing and murdering them, etc.

Rest assured, our guns, our tanks, our jets, our missiles, even our nukes will be ready -

Pakistan's generals disagree: link.

(And you have no idea how painful it is for me to support the murder-mongering mullahs of Iran over Pakistan...)

Unlike the

Sounds nice but since 2013 , 43 iranian guards have been killed by pakistan based terrorists.
So either pakistan security forces are incompetent to tackle terrorists using their territory or complicit in facilitating the terrorists.
Either way iran has the right to protect its border guards in the way it seems fit.

Last I checked, Pakistan does not deploy many security assets near its border with Iran so the announced redeployment may result in a sharp drop in cross-border terrorist activities (assuming that's how the new troops will be employed.)

 

[salarsikander]

Nothing to do with Islam. Its just a game of power.

Then we will be kicked out of the game if yhey dare to attack pakistan

 

[Khanate]

Pakistanis were right from day 1. Iranis, Indians and Afghans have made an alliance against Pakistan. We will see them.

Anyways more than typical rhetoric from Irani general, I 'd like to see Pakistani Shia members reply to this threat.
@BHarwana

No one on this forum speak for anyone besides themselves. If there is anything wrong here, its your approach to the discussion. Kindly don't bring your sectarianism views to the discussion next time.

 

[sbh02]

Iranians do not reciprocate, they prefer Indians over Pakistanis any day.

Well, I'm not sure about that. I think they are neutral in Pakistan-India relations, and don't have a particular liking for either country (or any country in the world in fact, which is why they are getting isolated globally).

Iran has openly spoken out about the oppression of Kashmiris at the hands of Indians, and supports their cause.

They have economic interests with India and Pakistan, nothing else. Their oil exports to India have been declining, so they needed alternative options in the shape of Pakistan.

 

[imadul]

Man f uck them and their temper, they may shove it up their......, if army discovered iranian link in terrorism in pakistan, why should they remain silent when that munafiq mullah comes here n acts as friend while using his intel to destabilize pakistan, its not our responsibility to cool tempers of every tom dick n harry, u should worry more about pakistani establishments temper when we discovered iran was in cahoots with india in their plans to terrorize karachi and balochistan, those munafiq iranian mullahs should come here n cool our tempers down n in regard to this idiotic kid general who thinks he can conduct attacks on pakistani soil, well we will stick a barrage of baburs and nasars up his **** in the first week and leave iran to mercy of its enemies with all of its airforce taken out on the ground in the first week...

Iranians have big psychological problems.....but a head of state should not be humiliated on a state visit. Issue of kulbhushan was raised with him but he should not ne snubbed on the face.
Iran has been supprting Sipah Mohammad for 20-30 years, Pak govts never openly protested. These inconsisten policies embolden others. Having said that, Pak and Iran are not enemies and Pak should try to have good economic and political rrlations. It is not good to have another hostile country at your borders.

 

[ISI-1]

Pakistan has sent it's border guards to secure the boundaries, coordinated action is expected against the terrorists. Hopefully

As much as I like my Iranian brothers, they should look before they leap. It is extremely hypocritical for Iran to expect these so called terrorists to be stopped, yet, it has a short term memory, regarding the zionist hindu Indian spy working from their side, Chahbahr. Let me remind our Iranians who their real brothers are and it is certainly not the zionist hindu Indians, who will cost Iran a lot in the long term should Iran cosy up with these merciless killers.

There is no room for hypocrisy my dear Iranian brothers! We should be working together to end the tyranny caused by not only our side, but by the enemies of Islãm, vis-a-vis, the West, the illegal zionist state and zionist Hindu Indians who continue each and everyday to cause immense suffering amongst the muslims in general.

With love from Pakistan

 

[Max]

Pakistan summons Iranian ambassador over recent ‘threats’ by Iranian Army Chief

Pakistan
by Hamza Rao | Published on May 9, 2017

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ISLAMABAD – Foreign ministry on Tuesday summoned the Iranian ambassador and expressed serious reservations over recent statements made by the head of the Iranian armed forces.

The head of the Iranian armed forces on Monday had warned Islamabad that Tehran would hit bases inside Pakistan if the government does not confront militants who carry out cross-border attacks.

The foreign ministry, while condemning the statements, stated that such statements were detrimental to the bilateral relations between the two neighbouring countries adding that the Iranian authorities should refrain from making such inappropriate statements that bring negative effects on the relations.

The head of the Iranian armed forces made a veiled threat despite a recent agreement between two Muslim neighbours to work together to boost border security in the wake of a border attack that killed 10 Iranian guards.

Iranian state TV quoted the army’s chief-of-staff, Gen Mohammad Hossein Bagheri, as saying that Iranian soldiers will attack “terrorists wherever they are,” suggesting they could cross into Pakistan to target militants there. The Sunni militant group Jaish al-Adl claimed the April assault.

Ten Iranian border guards were killed by militants last month. Iran said Jaish-al-Adl, a militant group, had shot the guards with long-range guns, fired from inside Pakistan.

The border area has long been plagued by unrest from both drug smuggling gangs and separatist militants.

 

[Syed Mukkarram]

Iran is nothing but a shia mullah state whose main aim is to establish khomeni powers in other muslim countries and have no interest to rule the hearts of muslim except killing them. The problem is Iran game is looking to be over in syria and islamic alliance turkey and russia will join hands in Syria.

 

[Fledgingwings]

I am yet to see Iranian army in action.its not worth messing with neighbours but if Irans serious then its about time to see what they come up with.We will destroy Israel,We will destroy Saudi Arabia,We will Destroy USA.what the heck???????So far its just talky talk.

 

[Magi Brahmin]

Well done Modi ji and Islamic military alliance.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

That is a deficiency of the Resolution. However, the U.S. defines terrorism as, "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

US can define however it wants, doesnt mean the rest of the world give any credence to it. You are living in immediate 9/11 era, plenty of water has passed under the bridge since, hence the reason the Russia are bulldozing the American/Isreali "good terrorists" in Syria without having the second thoughts. You are fully entitled to do your randi rona in UN about it though. As per Sir John Sawers, the era of Pax-Americana is over.

Bottom line is, the resolution 1373 is irrelevant in this day and age which you quoted very enthusiastically. Every nation got it own narrative and definition of the word "terrorist" depending on their own national interests and long held ideologies.

The SC's remit is security and the Resolution invokes Chapter 7 of the Charter, making it the binding sovereign obligation upon U.N. member-states. No action by Pakistan = no rights to claim sovereignty with regards to other member-states' attacking terrorists on Pakistani soil.

Quote me where does it explicit say that UN resolution justify breech of national security of member states on the pretext of terrorism? If the world affairs are handled by idiots like you, and their interpretation and definitions which border the declaration of war on sovereign nations, then we will would be living in post Armageddon by now.

By your definition, We in Pakistan are perhaps more entitled then anybody else to disregard many nations sovereignty as we have been the most effected nation by foreign sponsored terrorism.

You have the right to your own opinions but not your own facts - meaning you don't have the right to re-define the terms used by others for your own convenience, nor portray peace-loving peoples as violent as a pretext for robbing and murdering them, etc.

We have, as sovereign nation of 200 million, all the right to define and label anyone, based on our own facts for which we dont need anyone's approval neither we are in need of such.

The events of Gujrat and streets of Palestine speaks for themselves.

As I said earlier:

"Bottom line is, the resolution 1373 is irrelevant in this day and age which you quoted very enthusiastically. Every nation got it own narrative and definition of the word "terrorist" depending on their own national interests and long held ideologies."

Pakistan's generals disagree: link.

(And you have no idea how painful it is for me to support the murder-mongering mullahs of Iran over Pakistan...)

Unlike the

Pakistan general? An opinion expressed by some random unnamed persona is taken as a stance of deep state? How old are you kid?

This is from today :

https://www.dawn.com/news/1332052/t...f-pak-iran-brotherly-relations-fo-tells-envoy

They have been told by the deep state of Pakistan to put the sock in their mouth, ofcourse in diplomatic way by summoning their ambassador.

They are upset that we are entering their turf in Middle East. They will come to terms with that along with "other" ME nations as well.

As for support to Persian Mullah, dont worry we totally understand, infact know it all along how Pakistan give pain to you lot many times more then Iran, infact Iran is just a smoke screen.

At the end of day, you lot have all the right to pursue your agendas and deceptions and if deceptions dont work, you are fully entitled to declare war on Pakistan under any pretext. We will defend our sovereignty with all we got. Just do you cost calculations before treading this path.

 

[war&peace]

Man f uck them and their temper, they may shove it up their......, if army discovered iranian link in terrorism in pakistan, why should they remain silent when that munafiq mullah comes here n acts as friend while using his intel to destabilize pakistan, its not our responsibility to cool tempers of every tom dick n harry, u should worry more about pakistani establishments temper when we discovered iran was in cahoots with india in their plans to terrorize karachi and balochistan, those munafiq iranian mullahs should come here n cool our tempers down n in regard to this idiotic kid general who thinks he can conduct attacks on pakistani soil, well we will stick a barrage of baburs and nasars up his **** in the first week and leave iran to mercy of its enemies with all of its airforce taken out on the ground in the first week...

Isn't it strange that Iran is the one who has been caught red-handed for sponsoring terrorism in our country and still it has the balls to threaten us?

That's because our establishment acted very softly on this issue and our govt didn't respond. If we had taken a harder stance, it would be the Iranians apologizing to us.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

No one on this forum speak for anyone besides themselves. If there is anything wrong here, its your approach to the discussion. Kindly don't bring your sectarianism views to the discussion next time.

Bro...He did nothing...He just called one member out who has talent and capability to make Iran victim/innocent even when they're not...

Yes...This perception do exists that some Shia members ridiculously defend Iran even when Iran acts hostile...Hence, members over here interested in getting their opinion...

That's because our establishment acted very softly on this issue and our govt didn't respond. If we had taken a harder stance, it would be the Iranians apologizing to us.

Our establishment and media both had very apologetic attitude towards Iran...Now, we are reaping as usual...as always.

Iran needs to be fixed otherwise, believe me, sar pe char k nachenge ye log...