Iran says offers India bigger role in strategic port | Reuters

[gangsta_rap]

"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse"

 

[scientien]

"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse"

strong or weak horse is always better than @ss hope u get it.,

 

[Azizam]

Impossible ... we are friends but please don't compare Iran with sri lanka !!!

There are no foreign bases in Sri Lanka either so you can shove it yourself.

 

[SrNair]

Hahahahaha ... Indianssss lol... They are asking 8,10 billions from you... If China come up with 20 billions ??? What will you do ?

Dude,please dont embarass yourselves.
Just check the posts of the Iranian members inhere.
Had it been for money they would have been compromise to West a long time ago.
For them self respects is more important than money.
India stood with them during sanctions.They will return that favour to us sooner or later.

 

[anant_s]

I sincerely hope one day we will see one country's economic involvement and investment above the yardstick of countering someone else.
IMHO the most strategic thing any country that has interest in Persian gulf is free trade and energy security. India has tremendous stakes in Iran as far as energy security is concerned. What could be more strategic?
& speaking globally, does anyone else too believes, that (taking into consideration that Iranian oil will further pressurize already declining global crude prices), the timing of this deal by Big 5 could be to, bring OPEC under an unimaginable stress.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

. In addition having India invested in Pakistan has other benefits too for Pakistan as man of your intelligence can well extrapolate.

I can't recall what the thread was, but I had this discussion with Indian and Pakistani posters a few months ago - I'm in favor of open trade with India provided some sort of caveat is built in that results in Indian businesses (specific sectors) setting up manufacturing facilities in Pakistan to supply a certain percentage of their overall product sales in Pakistan out of those units. Such an agreement would alleviate the concerns of some Pakistanis about local industry being damaged.

Pakistan and India have managed to make the IWT work, and abide by the dispute resolution mechanisms outlined within the treaty, so there is no reason investment in one country by the other cannot be similarly protected via an internationally backed treaty, so businesses can minimize concerns about loss of investment in case of political hostilities and have recourse to compensation.

 

[SrNair]

You didn't get the context of the comment did you?

I got that .
But that question is stupid .
Iran wont allow anyne no matter what.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Can anybody explain me why pakistan is reluctant to pass iran or tazak petroleum pipelines to india. Any trade would immensly benefit pak as well.

simple, they don't understand Trade.

It isn't Pakistan that is an obstacle to the Tajik or Iranian pipelines going to India, it is the Indian government that is reluctant about the projects given their route through Pakistan.

 

[anant_s]

I'm in favor of open trade with India provided some sort of caveat is built in that results in Indian businesses (specific sectors) setting up manufacturing facilities in Pakistan to supply a certain percentage of their overall product sales in Pakistan out of those units. Such an agreement would alleviate the concerns of some Pakistanis about local industry being damaged.

I can straight away think of three sectors, Food processing, Textile and Cement where policy and business environment permitting Indian companies can invest.

 

[kaku1]

I can't recall what the thread was, but I had this discussion with Indian and Pakistani posters a few months ago - I'm in favor of open trade with India provided some sort of caveat is built in that results in Indian businesses (specific sectors) setting up manufacturing facilities in Pakistan to supply a certain percentage of their overall product sales in Pakistan out of those units. Such an agreement would alleviate the concerns of some Pakistanis about local industry being damaged.

Pakistan and India have managed to make the IWT work, and abide by the dispute resolution mechanisms outlined within the treaty, so there is no reason investment in one country by the other cannot be similarly protected via an internationally backed treaty, so businesses can minimize concerns about loss of investment in case of political hostilities and have recourse to compensation.

You think Indian businessmen in right mind invest in Pakistan?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I got that .
But that question is stupid .
Iran wont allow anyne no matter what.

Some Indian posters appeared quite 'ecstatic' about the possibility of Iran allowing Indian military bases in Iran - my question was posed to understand what specifically their rationale behind such claims was.

If you read my subsequent posts, you'll realize the intent behind the question.

 

[Spectre]

I'm in favor of open trade with India provided some sort of caveat is built in that results in Indian businesses (specific sectors) setting up manufacturing facilities in Pakistan to supply a certain percentage of their overall product sales in Pakistan out of those units. Such an agreement would alleviate the concerns of some Pakistanis about local industry being damaged.

What you are saying is completely reasonable, even India similarly protects it's interests. The whole " Make in India' is a part of that. In-fact making locals stakeholders would go a long way in mitigating the back-lash. Joint Ventures b/w an Indian and Pakistani company is the easiest way to kickstart things later we can move on to what you have suggested which is basically a offset policy.

All the jingoism and saber rattling aside, I hope Nawaz - Modi meeting in 2016 has some good news on that front.

Trade and commerce realistically speaking is the best way to alleviate tensions before tackling thornier issues of water and Kashmir. In India atleast, commerce dictates the policy. How much ever we hate Chinese and believe me Indian's have bigger apprehension from China - The cheap Chinese goods and the profits it gives to traders makes it impossible for Indian Govt to restrict any trade with China despite of the huge deficit in import-export and unfair taxation and regulations on Indian goods and services being exported to China like medicine and IT services

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You think Indian businessmen in right mind invest in Pakistan?

I'm just making an argument about the conditions under which I would support India-Pakistan trade normalization - from my end, without those conditions being met, India-Pakistan trade shouldn't be normalized.

 

[kaku1]

I'm just making an argument about the conditions under which I would support India-Pakistan trade normalization - from my end, without those conditions being met, India-Pakistan trade shouldn't be normalized.

For valid argument it need to met some parameters of some ground realities.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

My apologies to the forum team and other posters for off-topic comments - the discussion is getting side-tracked.

Please continue with the Iran-India discussions.

 

[The Great One]

I can't recall what the thread was, but I had this discussion with Indian and Pakistani posters a few months ago - I'm in favor of open trade with India provided some sort of caveat is built in that results in Indian businesses (specific sectors) setting up manufacturing facilities in Pakistan to supply a certain percentage of their overall product sales in Pakistan out of those units. Such an agreement would alleviate the concerns of some Pakistanis about local industry being damaged.

That is not how P2P or B2B trade works. Perhaps you are thinking in terms of FDI. Trade is simple exchange of goods and services and it will be determined by profitable demand and supply constraints.
If you want Indian businesses investing in Pakistan then that will require much more than opening up trade or FDI with India as Pakistan presently lacks the kind of infrastructure and security (esp. important from Indian perspective) that will allow new businesses. Which is why you get so low FDI from all countries in the first place. At the end of the day, if the local industry is to succeed, competition (from everywhere (except China)) will have to be allowed. Indian industry started blossoming only AFTER we liberalized in 1991.