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Iran says offers India bigger role in strategic port | Reuters

now let me ask you this : do you believe India and Pakistan can act like adults here and don't let their enmity get in the way ?
Well i certainly hope they can. The reason is if for a moment we forget our chequered past, trade and commerce remains the best bet for lasting peace in the region.
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India already is a very big consumer of Oil and gas and already is looking not only upto Iran for this but also Central Asian countries for the same.
This line will not only feed our power hungry sectors such as Fertilizers and electricity generation but will also be a source of revenue for Pakistan. This revenue will ensure safety of line and un-interrupted supply. An agreement in this regard, i'm sure will be honored by all parties involved.
All this may sound like fantasy, but we must remember the Indus water treaty between India and Pakistan have withstood several conflicts. There is no reason to believe why a good economic project like this too can't.
 
$ 8 billion worth of investments in Iran??? Where is India interested in Iran? I know one is Chabahar port. What are other projects where India will be investing? Can any one shed some light.
 
Unlikely, because of the thorn between the roses.
I'm glad u could see roses and i hope policy makers too see the roses and not the thorns.
It would be a real tragedy if India misses out on Iranian and Central Asian gas.
 
Exactly bro . what we want is brotherly relations with India and thats exactly what we are marching towards .

as its obvious for everyone , not even a single step back has been taken in the past 4-5 years .

our relations is becoming more and more bright everyday .

its all depends on you guys .

we've got cordial relations with both of you .

now let me ask you this : do you believe India and Pakistan can act like adults here and don't let their enmity get in the way ?


@haman10 We dont hate Pakistan.
We also want a good relation with Pakistan.
But there is some problems and those are just too tough to crack.
You know our trade with UAE is around 70 billion $ .And half of it is the exports of 38 billion $ to UAE.Now you know that a small Arab nation like UAE dont need such a large exports.
Those consignment from Dubai will end up in Karachi.Middlemen and Arab authorities are cashing on these ego of our werstern neighbour .
Pakistanis like our film ,our music etc.But a fraction of vested interests dont allow them to open that IB gatefor trade.
If they allow us such a trade then we wouldnt have to invest in Iranian port .
This is a fact bro.
They wont give us route for trade and exports .So now we are circumventing them.


A small minority in Pakistan yet powerful one dont like a good relation between India and Pakistan.
Those guys will use IPI when situation arises .Once it implemented IPI should become our energy vein.
Through Pakistan .We are not sure bro.
 
$ 8 billion worth of investments in Iran??? Where is India interested in Iran? I know one is Chabahar port. What are other projects where India will be investing? Can any one shed some light.

they invited us, not materialized yet.. it might be in long run...
 
I am just trying to help him to be reasonable. I know fully well he only represent himself. No need to worry! :)

Some people can't be reasoned with as their heads contain nothing but air.

It's gracious of you to try though.

$ 8 billion worth of investments in Iran??? Where is India interested in Iran? I know one is Chabahar port. What are other projects where India will be investing? Can any one shed some light.


The port is no small deal, I don't have the numbers but it would require huge investment and it would be great if we are the sole financiers as that may result in preferential treatment given to us as compared to other interested parties.

In addition ONGC is interested in developing few Oil fields but not much progress has been made on that. So lets see what comes out of it.
 
$ 8 billion worth of investments in Iran??? Where is India interested in Iran? I know one is Chabahar port. What are other projects where India will be investing? Can any one shed some light.
3 out of 8 is planned for this...

India plans $3 billion aluminum smelter in Iran

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India plans a $3 billion aluminum smelter complex in Iran, now that nuclear negotiations between Tehran and the P5+1 countries have concluded, media reports say, Press TVreported.

The idea was mooted in 2014 but India had been cooling its heels for the removal of sanctions on Iran to go ahead with the plan.

India’s National Aluminium Co. is now reportedly giving a serious consideration to the project after Iran and the P5+1 finalized their negotiations.

It includes construction of a smelter to produce 500,000 metric tons of aluminum per year and a 1,000-megawatt captive power plant.

India’s coal stock is not sufficient to power its aluminum production and since imports of coal are not viable, the country has to look for reserves and build a plant abroad.

Iran is using a mix of sources for power generation, including hydroelectric stations, oil products and natural gas.

With a lingering drought having drained dams and oil products polluting the environment, the country is switching to gas-powered electricity. Last year, Iran fed 50 billion cubic meters of gas into its power plants, up from 36 billion cubic meters.

The country is viewed an ideal destination for aluminum production because of its power generation capacities, given that electricity accounts for 40% of smelting costs.

Iran itself produces about 340,000 metric tons of aluminum per year and plans to raise it to 1.5 million tons by 2025 with an investment of about $12 billion.
 
please go to school... we are in defence forum( A virtual space to kill your time and to gain lil knowledge about new tech.... and to fight with foes as we are unable to fight in real life) ... does that mean we have to get land for our military purposes... strategic is a broad word not just related to military, it is about better relation, influence, Economic sense etc...
why are you insulting? did i say we should have naval base in iran i just said "THERE IS NOTHING STRATEGIC IF WE CANT KEEP OUR SHIPS" , and about economic importance,yes it is strategic. and do not insult me again.
 
I am just trying to help him to be reasonable. I know fully well he only represent himself. No need to worry! :)
Although it can be established from this very thread that the overwhelming majority of Indians even in this forum are lovely and polite people . i for one would love to visit india one day

why are you insulting? did i say we should have naval base in iran i just said "THERE IS NOTHING STRATEGIC IF WE CANT KEEP OUR SHIPS" , and about economic importance,yes it is strategic. and do not insult me again.
its okey man . lets just forget about the whole thing already .
 
Some people can't be reasoned with as their heads contain nothing but air.

It's gracious of you to try though.




The port is no small deal, I don't have the numbers but it would require huge investment and it would be great if we are the sole financiers as that may result in preferential treatment given to us as compared to other interested parties.

In addition ONGC is interested in developing few Oil fields but not much progress has been made on that. So lets see what comes out of it.


One oil field with huge reserves which ONGC discovered with oil India is also on the cards as Iran has offered ONGC first right of offer but india shied away because of sanctions now indian govt is going to claim and ask Iran for first right of offer to develop that oil site


Buoyed by Iran’s historic nuclear accord with world powers to end sanctions, India will ask Tehran for rights to develop ONGC-discovered Farzad-B gas field in the Persian Gulf even as it prepares to pay USD 6.5 billion in past oil dues.

India to seek rights for developing Iranian gas field | The Financial Express
 
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I suggest you cease talking nonsense about a naval base otherwise you'll start damaging the good relations between Iranians and Indians. If You think Iranians will allow a foreign base on their soil then either you're an ignoramus or just trolling. The Persian pride would kill us if a foreign nation were to put a foreign base on our soil. Don't ever forget the Persians were the first power on the planet.

When Iran invited India to invest and cooperate on the chabahar port, you should be very happy because India will gain alot by being involved in chabahar. But don't make the mistake of thinking only India can be involved in chahbahar. Iran has given our Indian friends the chance to get fully involved in this strategic port, take that chance and don't talk gibberish about a naval base. Chahbahar is very strategic for India if you want proper access to central Asia.

I wish to see a great increase in Iran-India economic ties. Here is to our future :cheers:
i don't know what prejudice u have in your mind but i never told we should have naval ships in iran, what told is if we cant keep ships in iran it does not have any strategic importance in terms of DEFENCE, but yes it has strategic importance in terms on Economics.
 
Iran Offer That Could Help India Bypass Pakistan to Access Central Asia


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NEW DELHI: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has asked India to invest in infrastructure projects worth $8 billion, including an expanded role in developing a strategic port that will open up access to Central Asia, Gholamreza Ansari, Iran's envoy to New Delhi, said on Friday.

The port of Chabahar in southeast Iran is central to India's efforts to circumvent Pakistan and open up a route to landlocked Afghanistan, where it has developed close security ties and economic interests.
Mr Rouhani suggested the larger role for India during a meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the sidelines of a summit in Russia days before the historic nuclear deal between Iran and world powers, Iran's ambassador to India told Reuters.

"The potential between Iran and India is great but we were just facing such a wall of sanctions, wall of American pressure," ambassador Ansari said.

Mr Ansari said that with sanctions likely to be lifted soon, it was a "golden time" for India to seize investment opportunities because of the two countries' close trade ties and shared interest in improving Central Asian transport links.

"Connectivity is the main policy of Modi that coincides with Iran's government policy," Mr Ansari said, and added, "We have offered them, in connectivity, $8 billion of projects."

PM Modi's meeting with Mr Rouhani was part of a tour of Central Asia focused on increasing India's role in the region.

It was not immediately clear how PM Modi responded to Mr Rouhani's offer. The foreign ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

Iran and six world powers reached a nuclear deal on Tuesday, clearing the way for an easing of sanctions on Tehran.

India and Iran agreed in 2003 to develop Chabahar on the Gulf of Oman, near Iran's border with Pakistan, but the venture has moved slowly because of the sanctions over Iran's atomic programme.

The two countries maintained a close relationship despite the US-led trade restrictions that halved their oil trade to 220,000 barrels per day last year.

In May, India's Shipping Minister Nitin Gadkari and his Iranian counterpart, Abbas Ahmad Akhoundi, signed an $85 million deal for India to lease two existing berths at the port and use them as multi-purpose cargo terminals.

Under the new proposal, India could help build second and third terminals at the port, as well as railway connections into the rest of Iran, Mr Ansari said.

India has moved slowly on opportunities in Iran in the past, including the giant Farzad B gas field. Mr Ansari said India was the "first priority" to develop Farzad B, but urged New Delhi to move fast. "If they drag their feet, the market will not wait," he said.
 
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