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Iran, father of Islamic, European civilizations

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I did not see the videos but I thought the Persians were always at odds with the Greeks and later Romans (and now Arabs :lol: & Americans)
 
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Sumerian civilization is the ancestor civilization for all the later civilizations in europe or middle east.
These videos tell Iranian civilizations are 2000 years older than mesopotamia. I know YouTube is banned in Pakistan. Anyway this thread can show some of ancient Iranian civilizations:

Ancient Iranian Civilizations since 11000 years ago



Plus these video tell when Europeans were in stone medieval age, it was Iranian Islamic sciences that rescued them.
 
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Interesting videos. Obviously there is alot of Pan-Persian ideology promoted within these videos but they are interesting to watch nontheless. I myself have a peculiar interest in the history of Persia, Turkic tribes, Mongolian tribes and pre-Islamic middle-east history lately.
 
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Sumerians were way before Iran

because, only in that case could Cyrus the great set the jews free from Iraq and allow them to settle back in Israel.

and later on, the Persians could reach the shores of Greek to fight and then run back home !

Guess, where is Marathon and what is the story behind it ?
 
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Sorry Mate ! You are degrading Iran .

Iran was the center of world in Ancient Times .
Being Father of Islamic and European civilization are tiny compared to that .

Are you opposed to learning history or the job of typing into a google search too much of a job for your vegetarian behind ?
 
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Add this list to Iran and U have the Old World

1. Iraq: The Cradle of Civilization. After thousands of years as a hunter/gatherer, man built the first cities 5,000 years ago on the banks of the Euphrates River. Civilization as we know it began with the glorious cultures of Ur, Nineveh, and Babylon.

2. India - The Empire of the Spirit. Ancient India is with us today in the living tradition of the Hindu religion, the basis of Indian culture. The traditions that are honored by millions of Hindus in the present were born in the Indus valley 5,000 years ago.

3. China - The Mandate of Heaven. Many breakthroughs on which the modern world is based were discovered in China long ago... iron-casting, gunpowder, even printing. When introduced to Europe, these things changed Western civilization. This episode presents the synthesis of East and West.

4. Egypt - The Habit of Civilization. A great documentary about Ancient Egypt that confirms that it was the birthplace of modern civilization, more than 5000 years ago. This documentary supports many of Dr. Walter Williams claims in regard to Egypts influence in the founding of Christianity and Islam.

5. Central America - The Burden of Time. Isolated from the rest of the world, the Mayans and Aztecs created sophisticated civilizations that in many ways paralleled ancient Mediterranean empires. God-like kings and a priestly ruling class dominated splendid cities of temples and pyramids.

6. The Barbarian West. Civilization arose in Asia, but it was the West which would create the first world culture. This final episode traces the origins of western culture through Greece and Rome prevailing by borrowing from the legacies of the original five old world civilizations.

Are you opposed to learning history or the job of typing into a google search too much of a job for your vegetarian behind ?
Iran is in existence for more than 5000 years before Islam and European civilization came into existence .
 
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Sumerians were way before Iran

because, only in that case could Cyrus the great set the jews free from Iraq and allow them to settle back in Israel.

and later on, the Persians could reach the shores of Greek to fight and then run back home !

Guess, where is Marathon and what is the story behind it ?
Iranian civilizations are thousands years before Sumerians.

Ancient Iranian Civilizations since 11000 years ago

If u watch the videos it shows that.
 
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2. India - The Empire of the Spirit. Ancient India is with us today in the living tradition of the Hindu religion, the basis of Indian culture. The traditions that are honored by millions of Hindus in the present were born in the Indus valley 5,000 years ago.


That is not true - Hinduism has nothing to do with the Indus Valley Civilization. The Vedic religion, from which today's Hinduism draws some concepts and rituals, was brought by certain Central Asian invaders.
 
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That is not true - Hinduism has nothing to do with the Indus Valley Civilization. The Vedic religion, from which today's Hinduism draws many concepts and rituals, was brought by some Central Asian invaders.

The AIT or AMT are both wrong as per Archaeological Findings .

Hinduism has origins in IVC .That doesn't mean Hinduism was the religion of IVC .
Fire Worship , Goddess worship , Animism are some of the basic practices in Hinduism , which originated around the same place . IVC is huge , Don't limit it to just Indus Valley , Harappa and Mohenja daro . Thousands of Sites have been found far away from Indus .

IVC was not a single society . It composed of Various societies with differences in cultural practices , like burying , beliefs in reincarnation etc . IVC has pre Indic and pre Persian roots , which no one can deny .
 
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1. The AIT or AMT are both wrong as per Archaeological Findings .

2. IVC has pre Indic and pre Persian roots , which no one can deny .

You have made some very bold claims. Can you elaborate, with links to your sources?
I bet no academic would put their career at stake to prove these claims.

Edit: If, "pre-Indic and pre-Persian" you mean it predates both, well of course it does. But that in no way indicates any connection to present day Hinduism.
 
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That is not true - Hinduism has nothing to do with the Indus Valley Civilization. The Vedic religion, from which today's Hinduism draws some concepts and rituals, was brought by certain Central Asian invaders.

My dear, you seem to confuse Islam and Hinduism in that respective. Would you care to highlight these rituals that "was brought by Central Asian Invaders".
 
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