Indus Valley Civilization never died

[W.11]

The more recent scholars such as JM Kenoyer has tried refuting the notion that the Indus valley civilization died, and rather went through a phase of localization.

Even though earlier, the scholars argued a lot about the death of the Indus Valley civilization, recent archaeological discoveries ar severely challenging this theory.

lack of Urbanization is given as one reason for the death of IVC, but sites such as Dwarka, daimabad, even Bara culture are sited as the sites who remained urbanized in the region, the bronze age collapse is used as a justification for the death of indus civilization which not only affected the Indus plain but also mesopotamia, this bronze age collapse reorganized the societies in a new manner, but on one hand the mesoptamia persists but indus valley civilization vanishes.

The periodization of IVC claims that the mature phase was not the same as early harappan phase, during which many sites which had developed early vanished and new sites emerged in the indus valley.

Early Harappan phase

Mature Harappan phase

localized phase

Some scholars such as JM Kenoyer have elaborated on parallel traditions along with the Indus valley civilization

What seems troubling here is, we see expansion of settlements through out south asian region instead of shrinkage

shortly afterwards, i-e 1300 or erhaps overlapping the late harappan phase is the Nothern Black polished ware phase

the recent archaeological discoveries have pushed back the second urban phase which is estimated based on NBPW period t 13th or 14th century BC

Tamil Nadu has revealed what seem to be harappan writing in one of the artifacts

this questions the very basic understanding of Indus valley civilization and its death

Hereis another piece i found which may provide answers to the what happened to the IVC during localization era, the evidence surprisingly comes from tamil nadu

chola coin (four spoked wheel ideogram)

IVC seal which same four spoked wheel ideogram

Pandya coin with a fish symbol reverse

indus seal with the identical ideogram/character

regards

 

[El Sidd]

I admire the propaganda value but lol

Like imagine the creativity that this is all being made up from just the upper most layer of the Tal of the Dead.

 

[GHALIB]

The more recent scholars such as JM Kenoyer has tried refuting the notion that the Indus valley civilization died, and rather went through a phase of localization.

Even though earlier, the scholars argued a lot about the death of the Indus Valley civilization, recent archaeological discoveries ar severely challenging this theory.

lack of Urbanization is given as one reason for the death of IVC, but sites such as Dwarka, daimabad, even Bara culture are sited as the sites who remained urbanized in the region, the bronze age collapse is used as a justification for the death of indus civilization which not only affected the Indus plain but also mesopotamia, this bronze age collapse reorganized the societies in a new manner, but on one hand the mesoptamia persists but indus valley civilization vanishes.

The periodization of IVC claims that the mature phase was not the same as early harappan phase, during which many sites which had developed early vanished and new sites emerged in the indus valley.

Early Harappan phase

Mature Harappan phase

localized phase

Some scholars such as JM Kenoyer have elaborated on parallel traditions along with the Indus valley civilization

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What seems troubling here is, we see expansion of settlements through out south asian region instead of shrinkage

shortly afterwards, i-e 1300 or erhaps overlapping the late harappan phase is the Nothern Black polished ware phase

the recent archaeological discoveries have pushed back the second urban phase which is estimated based on NBPW period t 13th or 14th century BC

Tamil Nadu has revealed what seem to be harappan writing in one of the artifacts

View attachment 637034

this questions the very basic understanding of Indus valley civilization and its death

Hereis another piece i found which may provide answers to the what happened to the IVC during localization era, the evidence surprisingly comes from tamil nadu

chola coin (four spoked wheel ideogram)

IVC seal which same four spoked wheel ideogram

Pandya coin with a fish symbol reverse

indus seal with the identical ideogram/character

regards

nice article .

 

[Clutch]

The Indus Civilization never died... It is still alive and well... It is Pakistan.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

They all died no one lives more than 60 years of age. That civilization was thousands of years old

Long gome are them and their children and generations.

They will answer for their actions and we will answer for our actions.

Only thing common with them for us is the land we live on.

Even if they died or didn't die together doesn't make a difference.

 

[TNT]

OP works hard but i dont understand the attachment to IVC. It was like any other ancient civilization, backward and idol worshippers. Who knows some of them lived or they entirely vanished, its Allah's wish. Civilizations are born and destroyed, so are creatures. The difference is, a civilization is successful if they found their creator.