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Indonesia Maritime defence and security issue

Ambushed!! Nah, he asked for it, viet is a dumb troll just like you, naw go troll on scs issue there.... A classic china vs vietnam case hahaha

don't make false assumption, @William Hung is just being sarcastic with @Viet antics, i know him, he is buddy and good Vietnamese who usually dont mess with other business since long the same with us Indonesian who usually just being easy going and dont mess other business
 
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I would give a fck to this thread if it is not about Vietnam. I post here because feeling provoked. You can be master of the universe or slave to the Chinese, I don't care.

oh really, the usual theft Indonesian Coast Guard and Navy confronting is came from Vietnam, followed by Pinoy, and Malay and China so there is no need any brain to make conclusion if most Ships we are banging till now is Vietnamese and the most fisherman we are captured, maimed or killed is Vietnamese

If your so called Coast guard with their bling-bling equipments (or some rusty decked ships) get enough fuels to patrol routinely and enough sailor with some balls maybe you can capture a lot of Chinese fisherman at your Coasts
 
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oh really, the usual theft Indonesian Coast Guard and Navy confronting is came from Vietnam, followed by Pinoy, and Malay and China so there is no need any brain to make conclusion if most Ships we are banging till now is Vietnamese and the most fisherman we are captured, maimed or killed is Vietnamese.

We arrested more that 500 vietnamese fishermans last year. That numbers alone tells a lot.
 
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omg Viet is getting ambushed by the nihonjin gang. @Carlosa come and save your buddy here, don’t just talk him up to stay on PDF and then leave him hanging by himself when he get ambushed.

I'm not interested in getting involved in this thing. Fishermen that go to someone else's EEC are taking their chances and they know it.

To get the record straight, I didn't talk Viet to stay in PDF, I don't tell him what to do. You on the other hand was the one that was pushing him to leave PDF because you were going to quit PDF and you wanted everybody else to do the same.

Regarding the Champa people, 60% of the Champa people in Vietnam today are Hindus. I don't know what the historical percentage was at that time of the war, but this is not just a muslim thing. As far as I know, all the well known ruins of the Champa people in Vietnam (like My Son) are all Hindu.
 
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I'm not interested in getting involved in this thing. Fishermen that go to someone else's EEC are taking their chances and they know it.

To get the record straight, I didn't talk Viet to stay in PDF, I don't tell him what to do. You on the other hand was the one that was pushing him to leave PDF because you were going to quit PDF and you wanted everybody else to do the same.

Regarding the Champa people, 60% of the Champa people in Vietnam today are Hindus. I don't know what the historical percentage was at that time of the war, but this is not just a muslim thing. As far as I know, all the well known ruins of the Champa people in Vietnam (like My Son) are all Hindu.
champa people were hindu followers, but converted later to islam, the religion became popular in southeast asia. look at the map. from indonesia and malaysia, the belief spread to philippines, thailand and cambodia. from the cambodia finally to champa. vietnam itlsef embracing confucialism and buddhism saw threatened and encircled. there was no help from China. moreover the Ming chinese held their hand over the muslims. we had to act before the chinese could have the chance to intervene.

I confirm what you said in the second paragraph is true :tup:

mosque in saigon
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champa people were hindu followers, but converted later to islam, the region became popular in southeast asia. look at the map. from indonesia and malaysia, the belief spread to philippines, thailand and cambodia. from the cambodia finally to champa. vietnam itlsef embracing confucialism and buddhism saw threatened and encircled. there was no help from China. moreover the chinese held their hand over the muslims. we had to act before the chinese could have the chance to intervene.

I confirm what you said in the second paragraph is true :tup:

mosque in saigon
1920px-Mosque_in_HCMC.jpg

Ah ok, good info, good to know.
 
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I'm not interested in getting involved in this thing. Fishermen that go to someone else's EEC are taking their chances and they know it.

To get the record straight, I didn't talk Viet to stay in PDF, I don't tell him what to do. You on the other hand was the one that was pushing him to leave PDF because you were going to quit PDF and you wanted everybody else to do the same.

Regarding the Champa people, 60% of the Champa people in Vietnam today are Hindus. I don't know what the historical percentage was at that time of the war, but this is not just a muslim thing. As far as I know, all the well known ruins of the Champa people in Vietnam (like My Son) are all Hindu.

I am not saying your buddy needs help in an internet argument war about fishing, etc. I’m talking deeper as in he needs help because PDF affects him psychologically. Its even clear to see just the existence of this thread runs heavy in his mind. Hence the reason why I once told him to leave PDF, this is not a place for his naivete and sensitive mind, and why I suggested him post in less hostile forum. While most other members here are only having fun on this forum, without having any effect in their real life, members like Viet gets pyschologically affected due to his sensitive mind. He is getting picked apart intellectually and members in this thread are having fun using him as an intellectual punching bag. Even the Chinese members in this thread are having fun pretending to make some genuine comments to him but its easy to see that they are only baiting him to keep fighting on, so they can watch in pleasure. But Viet cannot see this due to his naivete and frail mind, and he is not even aware of it, or not willing to admit it.

And yes, you have previously been talking him up to keep posting in PDF, don’t lie to yourself. Not for any bad intention but just for your agenda of keeping your precious Viet military thread active...but at the expense of Viet’s pyschological well being. I still maintain my original view that PDF is not a suitable environment for him to stay. This thread and his psychological melt-down proves it. It was justified to earlier tell him to leave, even when I was using harsh words to do it. The bad thing is talking him up to stay active in PDF for a certain agenda while letting him hanging by himself becoming an intellectual punching bag for others to have fun with and resulting him getting a mental melt down.
 
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Ah ok, good info, good to know.
just one more remark: although our history books hide much of details, but as far as I read, our military campaign targeted both ending the dominance of islam and hindu in mainland indochina. with our army marching to burma in the east and malaysia in the south. too bad, the chinese became too angry threatening an invasion of vietnam, the muslims with holy war, so we stopped a bit too short of the goal.
 
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just one more remark: although our history books hide much of details, but as far as I read, our military campaign targeted both ending the dominance of islam and hindu in mainland indochina. with our army marching to burma in the east and malaysia in the south. too bad, the chinese became too angry threatening an invasion of vietnam, the muslims with holy war, so we stopped a bit too short of the goal.

As I remember, I think they were mostly Hindu, but the ones that escaped the war by moving to the Khmer areas later converted to Islam.
 
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No, I did not said that in my post. I only said he is naive and sensitive.

On a different note, don’t you think its a little retarded to say “naivete and sensitive” is the same as “mentally retarded”?

in short foolish is the right word to describe him
 
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>>> Illegal fishing violation happen all the time around our maritime border.

27 Vietnamese arrested for illegal fishing in Malaysia’s waters
The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency has arrested 27 Vietnamese fishermen for illegal fishing activities in the waters of its country.

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Maritime director for Miri city, First Admiral Abim Sungom, said they were detained in the waters of Miri in Sarawak state while working in two boats with 10 tonnes of fish valued at 25,000 RM (nearly 6,000 USD).

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Both boats were detected at 3:50pm on November 10 and nabbed for illegal fishing under Ops Permai – a campaign to prevent illegal activities in the country’s waters, he said.-VNA

http://en.vietnamplus.vn/27-vietnamese-arrested-for-illegal-fishing-in-malaysias-waters/102454.vnp
 
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