Indo-Russian supersonic missile threatens China’s security

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

How can u guarantee that?

They are sane enough . if that happen you will find Russia at Chinese side.

 

[Dash]

They are sane enough . if that happen you will find Russia at Chinese side.

Upon Chinese request. And by that time war would have taken its path.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Upon Chinese request. And by that time war would have taken its path.

As Russia will sit duck & allow usa to wage a war on her neighbor & biggest trade partner.

 

[Dash]

As Russia will sit duck & allow usa to wage a war on her neighbor & biggest trade partner.

Although China stands at no 2 in both import and export but collectively the west holds the largest chunk of Russian trade that too including Japan. So there goes trade.

As far as neighbour how much Russia values China moraly is matter known to all. In a war like scenario Russia sees Russian interests first. Russia will wait and watch and not just jump in. China came to your help in 65, 71,99? No. Nations don't behave like that in 21st century

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Although China stands at no 2 in both import and export but collectively the west holds the largest chunk of Russian trade that too including Japan. So there goes trade.

As far as neighbour how much Russia values China moraly is matter known to all. In a war like scenario Russia sees Russian interests first. Russia will wait and watch and not just jump in. China came to your help in 65, 71,99? No. Nations don't behave like that in 21st century

Think inverse . Russia attack canada & usa sits duck . .
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Do you think multiple naval drills in east China sea & south China sea is just for show off . i dont think so . it was a signal to usa . there is a reason why usa retreated from SCS . .
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we dont have thats much good relations with China in 65 & 71 + they werent the super power at that time . in 99 even our air force wasn't involved so how come China joins + if two front war isnt a threat now then why do your army chief & air force chief discuss it every now & then . .

 

[Dash]

Think inverse . Russia attack canada & usa sits duck . .

That is an extremely hypocritical scenario and let me tell you USA and Canada are a single country in both ethnic, culture, linguistic and so much so that they might as well declare it as United Nations of America. Russia and China are a union of interest against the west not a union of heart if I may put it so.

Do you think multiple naval drills in east China sea & south China sea is just for show off . i dont think so . it was a signal to usa . there is a reason why usa retreated from SCS

In the book art of war by the great Sun jujutsu he says avoiding war amounts to victory and US and China tensions visavis Japan hasn't matured so much to call for an armed conflict. The signalling part from China is just as we signal you and you signal us. It's a joke first of all.

we dont have thats much good relations with China in 65 & 71 + they werent the super power at that time . in 99 even our air force wasn't involved so how come China joins + if two front war isnt a threat now then why do your army chief & air force chief discuss it every now & then . .

When China can defeat Indian in 62, a combined China Pakistan could have taken over much of Indian territory but when your general approached China she simply refused on the basis of her self interest and from time immemorial China is neutral on Kashmir even though she is your iron brother, ever wondered why? Coz it doesn't change the status quo.

In the world of politics driven by cunning interests it's ones own survival with dignity that matters. Nations are not stupid enough to let go of that principle. Be it India Russia US or China.

They will fight and fight for sure but only for that one thing "survival" not for other.

Japan and China issue is an issue of Japanese survival and they will fight. For sure.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

That is an extremely hypocritical scenario and let me tell you USA and Canada are a single country in both ethnic, culture, linguistic and so much so that they might as well declare it as United Nations of America. Russia and China are a union of interest against the west not a union of heart if I may put it so.



In the book art of war by the great Sun jujutsu he says avoiding war amounts to victory and US and China tensions visavis Japan hasn't matured so much to call for an armed conflict. The signalling part from China is just as we signal you and you signal us. It's a joke first of all.



When China can defeat Indian in 62, a combined China Pakistan could have taken over much of Indian territory but when your general approached China she simply refused on the basis of her self interest and from time immemorial China is neutral on Kashmir even though she is your iron brother, ever wondered why? Coz it doesn't change the status quo.

In the world of politics driven by cunning interests it's ones own survival with dignity that matters. Nations are not stupid enough to let go of that principle. Be it India Russia US or China.

They will fight and fight for sure but only for that one thing "survival" not for other.

Japan and China issue is an issue of Japanese survival and they will fight. For sure.

Huuuffff thats a lecture . with out any link to support your claims .
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China isnt going to attack Japan & Japan isnt insane enough to jumps in usa's war .
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China refuse our demand for joint attack in 1965 ? Huh who told you so ? our generals or indian media ?
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i stick to my statement if two front war isnt a possibility then why your generals are concerned about it .
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if usa have the support of japan , india ,veitnam etc . then why dont they start bombing Chinese Islands?

 

[$@rJen]

Funny reading Indian having word fight with Chinese, like cat is trying to fight a tiger

China A tiger! !
Paper dragon with no experience show off.. is a best complement

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Yes the same China who ceeded Hong Kong because they cannot pay the sum for opium.

Chinese century of humiliation started with this war.

If we're century humiliated, what can be said about India, 900 years under Mughal and 300 years from British, if you add up, it become a millennium humiliation that India has been accumulated

Let him do to his satisfaction, it's past & that won't change what's coming. China's survival is only by peace with India. If India stands against China, America & Japan have the moral support to go ahead & strike China. America needs India's base to safely defeat China.

Our survival is only by peace with India ? are you saying that US and Japan need India moral support to strike China, what kind of fantasy land are you living? but the other way around it's true, India's survival is depend on US and Japan that why your government is cozying with them because India wouldn't survive by stand alone against China....it's Indian nature to send S.O.S for support as 1962 and still keep sending S.O.S signal.

China A tiger! !
Paper dragon with no experience show off.. is a best complement

And what kind of Experience India had? you guys can't even make your bullets properly let alone to talk about experience...and talk about show off

 

[Sanju]

Think inverse . Russia attack canada & usa sits duck . .

Canada has the ability to defend itself against Russia. It is a peaceful country which has friendly relations with the world. It can flex its muscles much bigger than Russia & bully the world, if needed to display power, but it has not. So not only US will defend its peaceful & trust worthy ally, all other big powers with NATO will stand behind Canada. Neither Russia trusts China nor China trusts Russia. Both are competing for Super power status by trying to annex others territory & terrorizing anybody who questions their actions. There is no power struggle between Canada & America.

China bullies everybody by threatening of attack. Russia also just plays mind games. Russia can show their power in places like Syria, Iraq where there is no big threat of casualty & counter attack. Even here they are feeling the heat due to the drain of their reserves to carry out these operations. It's not only about having Nuclear & sophisticated weapons, today it's all about the ability to carry a war to the opposition. If not the after war consequences will be catastrophic more than the war.

Do you think multiple naval drills in east China sea & south China sea is just for show off . i dont think so . it was a signal to usa . there is a reason why usa retreated from SCS . .

China is petrified with all the naval drills happening around its door step & elsewhere, like Malabar in Indian ocean, where several countries are teaming up for practice sessions, as preparation for the attack on China. So what can China do, it can only prep up Russia & N Korea. All are in same boat.

US is not going to retreat from SCS in the near future, until China buckles down.

if two front war isnt a threat now then why do your army chief & air force chief discuss it every now & then . .

Let's say two front war will never happen & we are sure. Is there anything wrong, if we prepare for such an event even if it doesn't happen in future. Is there anything wrong if our army or air-force chief discusses it. Don't you think China will keep all the force in one place, if they go to war with Japan. China has to even fear going to war with Vietnam today, as it's India's friend. China & Pakistan has to fear more than India, since it will have to be prepared for not two front war but all sides war.

If we're century humiliated, what can be said about India, 900 years under Mughal and 300 years from British, if you add up, it become a millennium humiliation that India has been accumulated

India had territorial kings fighting each other & it was all internal between Kings for ruling their territory. People or common man was never affected by these fights of Kings. You will hardly find any King doing atrocities & doing in-human acts against the defense less in those days. Nobody bothered about who ruled their region, till the time the Islamic invaders came.

Indians were very innocent & followed certain principles in life & war. These invaders used treachery to defeat rulers & worst destroyed temples, killed innocents, raped woman, used sword for conversions & used woman as pawn to blackmail local people who were defenseless. The Mughals were repulsed & they had lost all the power in India by the time the British came. It's the Sardars & Maratas who vanquished the Mughals.

The British used a new tactic of ruling India. All these invaders used our beliefs as weakness & exploited it. We never needed to be defend our nation, since it was all different Hindu dynasties ruling different regions. It was long back in 327 BC, when Alexander wanted to conquer India, citing the same Indian weakness the entire country united to take on Alexander & he retreated just by seeing the huge army in front & the valor of Porus just a small king of one territory.

After British rule we understood, all invaders are misusing our innocence to exploit & looting us, the entire country united for good, so nobody ever can again dare to invade or bring in foreign culture or conspiracies to split our country like it happened in 1947.

There is no question of humiliation since we repulsed the Mughals & also got independence from the British. The Islamic invaders & British all came to loot Indian wealth. When British left we were left with utter poverty & no money to feed such a huge population or country.

Along with that we had a hostile neighbor like Pakistan who drained our resources. China also took advantage of our weakness. Today we have built ourselves to be a regional power in-spite of all the odds. Look at China & Pakistan. They have threats from all the neighbors from all sides & internally too. If countries around the world has to choose any one, among China, Pakistan & India most countries will choose India. Even Russia will choose India over both if it's for a trustworthy friend. Nobody trusts you in the world. Who has to be humiliated.

Our survival is only by peace with India

? are you saying that US and Japan need India moral support to strike China, what kind of fantasy land are you living? but the other way around it's true, India's survival is depend on US and Japan that why your government is cozying with them because India wouldn't survive by stand alone against China....it's Indian nature to send S.O.S for support as 1962 and still keep sending S.O.S signal.

And what kind of Experience India had? you guys can't even make your bullets properly let alone to talk about experience...and talk about show off

US doesn't know the region well to go on its own. And it's going to be a naval war. So if US carriers are hit, it will be huge set back. Russia will use this opportunity to enter & thwart the Americans.

Japan on its own can take on China all alone. But it's no win for both. China may destroy whole of Japan. But Japan also will end up destroying the entire of the economic zones of China. The end of this zone will be the end of whole of China.

So If America gets a base in India, It will get back up, for air & Missile strike from land, if their carriers with Jets are taken down in the Waters. Otherwise the US will solely be dependent on Japanese Land, which Russia would exploit opening another front seeing any one party's weakness. The US will also use India for intelligence. If not India itself can launch an attack from it's border. India's role may not be required in American or Japanese attack. But India being there, will give sheer confidence that China will not get a second chance. This will also keep the Chinese armed forces distributed. They have to keep a considerable amount of jets, missiles, ammunition & forces since India is a big country. This will weaken Chinese confrontation with Japan or Us. This is confirmation China will be smashed & it will give no room for any withdrawal of attacking forces, where China gets time to redeploy, renew its attack or call for cease fire.

Russia will only enter if it sees some important link is weakened. So yes India, Australia, Vietnam, Taiwan will all play a huge moral support for Japan or America to go for a Kill on China.

 

[$@rJen]

If we're century humiliated, what can be said about India, 900 years under Mughal and 300 years from British, if you add up, it become a millennium humiliation that India has been accumulated



Our survival is only by peace with India ? are you saying that US and Japan need India moral support to strike China, what kind of fantasy land are you living? but the other way around it's true, India's survival is depend on US and Japan that why your government is cozying with them because India wouldn't survive by stand alone against China....it's Indian nature to send S.O.S for support as 1962 and still keep sending S.O.S signal.



And what kind of Experience India had? you guys can't even make your bullets properly let alone to talk about experience...and talk about show off

That's the best u come up with.... we've a better experience in all the sides... you've nothing compared to... just a paper dragon

 

[Sanju]

Japan alone can cripple China to such an extent, there is no return.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Canada has the ability to defend itself against Russia. It is a peaceful country which has friendly relations with the world. It can flex its muscles much bigger than Russia & bully the world, if needed to display power, but it has not. So not only US will defend its peaceful & trust worthy ally, all other big powers with NATO will stand behind Canada. Neither Russia trusts China nor China trusts Russia. Both are competing for Super power status by trying to annex others territory & terrorizing anybody who questions their actions. There is no power struggle between Canada & America.

China bullies everybody by threatening of attack. Russia also just plays mind games. Russia can show their power in places like Syria, Iraq where there is no big threat of casualty & counter attack. Even here they are feeling the heat due to the drain of their reserves to carry out these operations. It's not only about having Nuclear & sophisticated weapons, today it's all about the ability to carry a war to the opposition. If not the after war consequences will be catastrophic more than the war.



China is petrified with all the naval drills happening around its door step & elsewhere, like Malabar in Indian ocean, where several countries are teaming up for practice sessions, as preparation for the attack on China. So what can China do, it can only prep up Russia & N Korea. All are in same boat.

US is not going to retreat from SCS in the near future, until China buckles down.



Let's say two front war will never happen & we are sure. Is there anything wrong, if we prepare for such an event even if it doesn't happen in future. Is there anything wrong if our army or air-force chief discusses it. Don't you think China will keep all the force in one place, if they go to war with Japan. China has to even fear going to war with Vietnam today, as it's India's friend. China & Pakistan has to fear more than India, since it will have to be prepared for not two front war but all sides war.



India had territorial kings fighting each other & it was all internal between Kings for ruling their territory. People or common man was never affected by these fights of Kings. You will hardly find any King doing atrocities & doing in-human acts against the defense less in those days. Nobody bothered about who ruled their region, till the time the Islamic invaders came.

Indians were very innocent & followed certain principles in life & war. These invaders used treachery to defeat rulers & worst destroyed temples, killed innocents, raped woman, used sword for conversions & used woman as pawn to blackmail local people who were defenseless. The Mughals were repulsed & they had lost all the power in India by the time the British came. It's the Sardars & Maratas who vanquished the Mughals.

The British used a new tactic of ruling India. All these invaders used our beliefs as weakness & exploited it. We never needed to be defend our nation, since it was all different Hindu dynasties ruling different regions. It was long back in 327 BC, when Alexander wanted to conquer India, citing the same Indian weakness the entire country united to take on Alexander & he retreated just by seeing the huge army in front & the valor of Porus just a small king of one territory.

After British rule we understood, all invaders are misusing our innocence to exploit & looting us, the entire country united for good, so nobody ever can again dare to invade or bring in foreign culture or conspiracies to split our country like it happened in 1947.

There is no question of humiliation since we repulsed the Mughals & also got independence from the British. The Islamic invaders & British all came to loot Indian wealth. When British left we were left with utter poverty & no money to feed such a huge population or country.

Along with that we had a hostile neighbor like Pakistan who drained our resources. China also took advantage of our weakness. Today we have built ourselves to be a regional power in-spite of all the odds. Look at China & Pakistan. They have threats from all the neighbors from all sides & internally too. If countries around the world has to choose any one, among China, Pakistan & India most countries will choose India. Even Russia will choose India over both if it's for a trustworthy friend. Nobody trusts you in the world. Who has to be humiliated.



US doesn't know the region well to go on its own. And it's going to be a naval war. So if US carriers are hit, it will be huge set back. Russia will use this opportunity to enter & thwart the Americans.

Japan on its own can take on China all alone. But it's no win for both. China may destroy whole of Japan. But Japan also will end up destroying the entire of the economic zones of China. The end of this zone will be the end of whole of China.

So If America gets a base in India, It will get back up, for air & Missile strike from land, if their carriers with Jets are taken down in the Waters. Otherwise the US will solely be dependent on Japanese Land, which Russia would exploit opening another front seeing any one party's weakness. The US will also use India for intelligence. If not India itself can launch an attack from it's border. India's role may not be required in American or Japanese attack. But India being there, will give sheer confidence that China will not get a second chance. This will also keep the Chinese armed forces distributed. They have to keep a considerable amount of jets, missiles, ammunition & forces since India is a big country. This will weaken Chinese confrontation with Japan or Us. This is confirmation China will be smashed & it will give no room for any withdrawal of attacking forces, where China gets time to redeploy, renew its attack or call for cease fire.

Russia will only enter if it sees some important link is weakened. So yes India, Australia, Vietnam, Taiwan will all play a huge moral support for Japan or America to go for a Kill on China.

You seems to be very much confident about indian stand . let me ask u some thing . will india intervene in any sort of Sino-US conflict ?

 

[zip]

Pakistan only have one threat and I have been saying for a while until Pakistani Govt and Army realize that this threat is not going away without the fight, so far they have not been listening to me but time will come when both people and govt will realize it. Pakistan's survival depends on destruction of India...good and evil cannot not survive together, and good is here to stay no matter how butt hurt you get



my reply to post like these is always
hehehehe



Only Indian soldiers I have seen in action is in some videos in Kashmir, I am sorry to say that Army cannot fight.

Only one threat with an army which can't fight.. Hmm you should feel lucky for all that peaceful breeze exploding every part of your society and dreams must be too beautiful to wake up..

 

[Sanju]

You seems to be very much confident about indian stand . let me ask u some thing . will india intervene in any sort of Sino-US conflict ?

India will try not to be part of the war, as we do not want to take casualties & losses. Keep in mind, after sanctions, Russia dearly is dependent on Chinese & Indian money. If China is taken down, India is the regional & world power. Japan & US will go deep in recession & debt after the war.

So it will all depend on the situation. If China strikes at our border or any missile is directed at us, yes then India will retaliate with all its might. Why do you think we are buying arms & ammunition in a hurry. What for we are testing Anti Missile Defense System like Agni & Barak series. Why have we bought S400 missiles from Russia. It's first time in Indian history we are heavily fortifying Indo-Chinese border by deploying Sukhois, tanks & Brahmos.

We have started work on Satellite monitoring station in Vietnam in-spite of China threatening, we will face severe consequences. India also announced to sell Akash & Brahmos Missile apart from training it's Air-force on SU30 capabilities. All these in-spite of strong objections from China. So what does all this indicate.

China always threatened & bullied India. They were never so scared of India. Narendra Modi has reversed the panic & fear we had of China. Xi Jingping & China is calling in for meetings, showing concerns & worried, India is not bucking to their threats. Modi is the 1st PM, who has made China fear India beyond its belief.

Do you know China called for First China-India Strategic Dialogue, which was held discussing sensitive issues. Also listen to your friend how they explain CPEC & Pakistan occupied Kashmir in the above video

Wait for some more time China will give way for India's NSG membership & also Azhar Masood will be declared a terrorist. Once this happens Pakistan will get the clear message, China is worried & concerned of India. The ISIS has already announced they will flow a river of Chinese blood. China has to act soon.

And regarding America & Japan striking China, if I am not wrong by 2020 it should happen, just after Modi is re-elected as PM in 2019 for the second term, if the Chinese economy doesn't show any signs of collapse