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INDO-RUSSIA DEFENCE TALKS TO BEGIN

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Indo-Russia defence talks to begin


India and Russia will review their bilateral defence ties and ongoing projects during Defence Secretary RK Mathur’s three-day visit to Moscow starting from Monday. The refurbishment of Gorshkov aircraft carrier, joint production of fifth generation strike fighter jet and joint exercises between the armed forces of two countries will figure prominently in the talks.

Mathur is also likely to raise the issue of Kilo class submarine Sindhurakshak which saw a major accident on August 12 in Mumbai killing all 18 sailors on board. The Russian made submarine had undergone major refits and mid life up gradation for nearly two years in Russia before rejoining service in April this year.

Leading a tri-services team comprising three-star rank officers, Mathur will take stock of refurbishment of Gorshkov renamed as INS Vikramaditya with his Russian counterparts. Costing over three billion dollars, the 45,000 ton carrier is scheduled for induction into the Indian Navy in December this year after a delay of more than a year due to some problems in boilers of the ship.

Besides this prestigious project, the two countries will also review the progress made on joint design and production of fifth generation fighter jet which is expected to join service by 2020. India plans to buy more than 300 aircraft and both the sides have held series of consultations to finalise the design and start production as soon as possible.

The Preliminary Design Phase programme of the project was completed in June this year and research and development contract is under negotiation between the two countries to define the total scope, the work share and responsibilities of each side, and the financial implications of the programme. As regards Sindhurakshak, officials said on Sunday, the defence secretary may raise the issue with his Russian counterparts as India spent more than 150 million dollars on upgrade. The Russian facility which carried out the refit denied any goof up on its part while refitment and said it was willing to offer all help to the Indian Navy in finding out the cause of the mishap.

Meanwhile, the two countries may also discuss the upgrade of one more Kilo Class submarine INS Sindhushastra, the last of the 10 submarines procured by India from Russia. India had procured ten Kilo class vessels from Russia in early 1980s and the deliveries were made in 14 years from 1986 to 2000 and nearly all submarines have undergone upgrade in Russia over the last one decade. The defence secretary level talks will also do the groundwork for Defence Minister AK Antony’s visit to Moscow in October followed by summit meeting between President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh towards the end of the year, officials said.
 
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Our relationship with Russia is based on the solid foundation of mutual trust & understanding. Now we are the joint partners in two of the most crucial projects, PAK FA/FGFA and Brahmos, plus there are cooperations in other military & space programs, that's says a lot about our strong trust in each other. There is not much hype, but silent progress of mutual cooperation between two good old friends. :)
 
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Our relationship with Russia is based on the solid foundation of mutual trust & understanding. Now we are the joint partners in two of the most crucial projects, PAK FA/FGFA and Brahmos, plus there are cooperations in other military & space programs, that's says a lot about our strong trust in each other. There is not much hype, but silent progress of mutual cooperation between two good old friends. :)

Are you guys going to get the Lada class subs anytime soon?
 
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Our relationship is wider than the galaxy and harder than the rocks. Yeah, that's right!
 
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Are you guys going to get the Lada class subs anytime soon?

Lada class is a diesel sub with 25% lesser displacement than the Kilo class. The project was suspended by Russia as it fell far short of the desired requirements. Later China showed interest in that project, and probably the project was revived for 4 subs for China. I am not sure if we ever wanted the Lada class.
 
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Are you guys going to get the Lada class subs anytime soon?

No but we may buy Amur for the Project 75I .

Lada class is a diesel sub with 25% lesser displacement than the Kilo class. The project was suspended by Russia as it fell far short of the desired requirements. Later China showed interest in that project, and probably the project was revived for 4 subs for China. I am not sure if we ever wanted the Lada class.

Amur is the export variant of Lada Class .
 
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@kurup

You also are participating in the Scorpion submarine-progarm with France, right?
 
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@kurup

You also are participating in the Scorpion submarine-progarm with France, right?

Ya , that is for 6 subs under Project 75 . All subs are being constructed in MDL , Mumbai and are in various stages of construction. First sub will be out in 2015 .
 
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Ya , that is for 6 subs under Project 75 . All subs are being constructed in MDL , Mumbai and are in various stages of construction. First sub will be out in 2015 .

You guys have so many subs = \ Kilos, T-209, and now the Scorpion... WoW
 
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Ya , that is for 6 subs under Project 75 . All subs are being constructed in MDL , Mumbai and are in various stages of construction. First sub will be out in 2015 .

we must get more scorpenes with aip instead of starting new tender to speed things up
 
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You guys have so many subs = \ Kilos, T-209, and now the Scorpion... WoW

Scorpene and P75I will form the next generation line .

By the time these subs are well in service , the kilos and U209s will start to retire .

So more like replacements .

we must get more scorpenes with aip instead of starting new tender to speed things up

That will speed things up but the decision need to be taken by MoD .
 
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Scorpene and P75I will form the next generation line .

By the time these subs are well in service , the kilos and U209s will start to retire .

So more like replacements .



That will speed things up but the decision need to be taken by MoD .

where is the drdo aip??
 
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