Indo-Pak ties: Who will end up on the losing side?

[Vazir]

forget everything just let me tell you few facts which are very very scary and the main reason why even China is not trying to show us its militarry arm as it use to show us just a decade back

1. we have yes we have 5k+ MIRV with 100Kton+ minurised warhead thermonuclear warheads missiles which also can be tipped on 300mile range Bhramos poindted towards our western borders

2. we do have both radar based SAR and other day & night 24X7X365 Sattelite and land based & aerostat multi layered and multi band PESA & AESA (right now only GaA) but GaN based on order to watch for enemy missile and other hostile ariel threats

3. then we also have Prahaar & Prithvi and you can google range , payload and CEP of prahaar system V/s your NASR for a change as both are same type of systems

4. lets not even talk about indian air force fighter and air defnce AA batteries as you yourself know PAF has nothing to challenge them both in quality or quantity as of now and in near future

so the point is its not that only you have force multipliers and so called tactical battlefield missiles and low yield nuces we have much much more and much much advanced than you can ever imagine its just we dont have to tell it but our prome enemy knows or has an idea what we have thats why he does not flexes his muscels too often with us and tries to talk with us .. kya samjhe

*facepalm*
So you even know why tactical ballistic missiles are even used for?
Forget it. You want a dick measuring contest, go somewhere else. I don't engage in troll fights.

 

[Vazir]

Pakistan does not have a second strike capability, even if there we in the near future then indian poisedons would take the submarines out immediately. If pakisan were to fire a tactical missile then India would destroy the launch sites of those misslie sites first and would not attack some random site.

You're overestimating India's intelligence capability here. Pakistan is smart enough to keep their launch sites hidden. The moment India launches, Pakistan launches. We don't wait for the transporting and the loading. That will be done the moment tactical missiles are used, in case India retaliates. An almost immediate response, to put it simply.

 

[Logicaldude]

On PDF Pakistan always wins no matter what happens.

So the clear winner on PDF is Pakistan.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

On losing side? Don't make me laugh. India looks up Pakistan's backside, Bangla looks up India's backside. That is the way it always has been in history and so shall it be in the future. Pakistan, the land of the Indus River, the land of the Indus Valley Civilization, the land that birthed Vedas, the land from which everything and anything good emanated in South Asia from whence it spread to the junglees in east toward the Ganga. That is why all roads in South Asian history lead to Ancient Pakistan and all roads in future will lead to Pakistan. Ganga's are going to have accept that much as they declare filthy Ganga 'holy' it is no match for the pristine Indus.

And you expect such a land, Pakistan that has been the centre of gravity since human civilization took root on the banks of our blessed Indus River is going to lose to the aboriginal junglees of the Ganga?

Yeh, tell me about it. That is like asking who is going to win Egypt or South Sudan?

@EgyptianAmerican @Sinopakfriend

 

[GURU DUTT]

*facepalm*
So you even know why tactical ballistic missiles are even used for?
Forget it. You want a dick measuring contest, go somewhere else. I don't engage in troll fights.

this is just a rough sketch of non nuclear missile but we can also tip is with minutrised thermonuclear device kiddo

try google about Prahaar misile syatem but for refrence i must tell you it has 150 Km range and almost twice the speed as nasr but thrice as much accurecy as your NARS due to advanced guidence in it tyr use google kid

we also put it on export and vietnam wants to buy it

 

[Indus Pakistan]

On PDF Pakistan always wins no matter what happens.

Well on PDF at least India gets nominated in the contest. On your Ganga forums like Bharat Rakshak, Pakistan does not even make it into the contest listing.

 

[GURU DUTT]

On PDF Pakistan always wins no matter what happens.

So the clear winner on PDF is Pakistan.

YOU NAILED IT

 

[Zhukov]

India will loose Muslim parts of kashmir gradually because Never it happened in history that any force can keep an area against will of the local populace in long run and then there will be peace between India and Pak.

Thats it. Nothing else is going to happen.

 

[Vazir]

On PDF Pakistan always wins no matter what happens.

So the clear winner on PDF is Pakistan.

I mean, I'm arguing here. I'm not sugarcoating or anything. Nor am I trolling. I'm considering the argument and taking it along. A respectful one, and if it turns disrespectful, I'll leave.

this is just a rough sketch of non nuclear missile but we can also tip is with minutrised thermonuclear device kiddo

try google about Prahaar misile syatem but for refrence i must tell you it has 150 Km range and almost twice the speed as nasr but thrice as much accurecy as your NARS due to advanced guidence in it tyr use google kid

we also put it on export and vietnam wants to buy it

I was talking about how we couldn't compare tactical missiles and Agni. Because they are used for different purposes, and saying that Agni is better because it has more payload is dick measuring. Tactical missiles are used in the battlefield, MRBMs are used on population centres or large bases.
Now I'm talking about the scenario where tactical missiles are used on the battlefield by Pakistan, and they immediately prepare their launchers in case of India retaliating with something similar. Now pinpointing the launchers' location is difficult as it is without taking India's intelligence capability. I'm not sold on the idea that they can do it. The only person who would have intelligence on this is Five Eyes. They could try telling India "look, Pakistan has nukes ready to fire in case you do, so don't." In case India goes ahead anyways, there's no way to know where the launchers are, and Pakistan launches their missiles seconds after India does. Guess the result.
Of course, all this is hypothetical and I hope this never occurs.

 

[GURU DUTT]

I mean, I'm arguing here. I'm not sugarcoating or anything. Nor am I trolling. I'm considering the argument and taking it along. A respectful one, and if it turns disrespectful, I'll leave.



I was talking about how we couldn't compare tactical missiles and Agni. Because they are used for different purposes, and saying that Agni is better because it has more payload is dick measuring. Tactical missiles are used in the battlefield, MRBMs are used on population centres or large bases.
Now I'm talking about the scenario where tactical missiles are used on the battlefield by Pakistan, and they immediately prepare their launchers in case of India retaliating with something similar. Now pinpointing the launchers' location is difficult as it is without taking India's intelligence capability. I'm not sold on the idea that they can do it. The only person who would have intelligence on this is Five Eyes. They could try telling India "look, Pakistan has nukes ready to fire in case you do, so don't." In case India goes ahead anyways, there's no way to know where the launchers are, and Pakistan launches their missiles seconds after India does. Guess the result.
Of course, all this is hypothetical and I hope this never occurs.

let me end tonight with just a bit of advice never be too sure that your bigger enemy in not watching your every move who knows he just might be nowing all about your assets and there wherebouts otherwise trust me people sitting on otherside of our fence would not have hesitated to use them by now its just that we are weighting for something and its not very far away till that happens have fun

 

[Vazir]

let me end tonight with just a bit of advice never be too sure that your bigger enemy in not watching your every move who knows he just might be nowing all about your assets and there wherebouts otherwise trust me people sitting on otherside of our fence would not have hesitated to use them by now its just that we are weighting for something and its not very far away till that happens have fun

That is an assumption, sir.

 

[GURU DUTT]

That is an assumption, sir.

good enough if you think so

 

[Vazir]

good enough if you think so

Not exactly. If I recall, Wikileaks archives contain a document from the US diplomatic cables informing the Pentagon that they do not know the locations of all of nuclear weapons storage sites and launching platforms in Pakistan. Don't ask me to find it; it is incredibly hard to go through and find documents on Wikileaks. But point being that if the best intelligence gathering community doesn't know about all, I don't think that India would know about any. Respectfully to those who serve R&AW, I don't think highly of their capabilities. They need to improve.

 

[Verve]

We are a status quo power with a booming economy.

add to that 'and a failing banking system'

 

[Articulate]

add to that 'and a failing banking system'

What?
I know you are a Pakistani, that almost by definition means you never bother to actually read and become knowledgeable, but at least try to do so before posting..otherwise it makes you look even more ignorant than the usual stock.

Indian Banking system is failing? Its NPA's are on track to resolution after peaking by March 2017. The Banking system has had new laws enacted to support faster expansion and more credit. Its on a massive expansion spree!