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India's Nuclear Madness

well the world is saying a different thing
https://www.publicintegrity.org/201...are-vulnerable-theft-us-officials-and-experts

and before sending any data please read by yourself
let me explain:
nti uses its security measures to define how a county perform in security of a countries nuclear arsenal which includes the economic performance(if economy fails nuke can goes into hands of terrorists) of a country,its cyber space (system can be hack and location of nuke can be leak),political stability, insurgencies ,advancement in technology,inner surveillance of nuclear site,thread to a country. these are the measures it uses in ranking

but as far as world know how many accident happens in india and smuggling
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ling-racket-busted-rajasthan-ats-arrests-six/
April 2011 Fire alarms blare in the control room of the Kaiga Generating Station in Karnataka. Comments by officials alternately say there was no fire, that there was only smoke and no fire, and that the fire was not in a sensitive area (2). Details from the AERB are awaited.

November 2009 Fifty-five employees consume radioactive material after tritiated water finds its way into the drinking water cooler in Kaiga Generating Station. The NPCIL attributes the incident to “an insider’s mischief” (3).

April 2003 Six tonnes leak of heavy water at reactor II of the Narora Atomic Power Station (NAPS) in Uttar Pradesh (4), indicating safety measures have not been improved from the leak at the same reactor three years previously.

January 2003 Failure of a valve in the Kalpakkam Atomic Reprocessing Plant in Tamil Nadu results in the release of high-level waste, exposing six workers to high doses of radiation (5). The leaking area of the plant had no radiation monitors or mechanisms to detect valve failure, which may have prevented the employees’ exposure. A safety committee had previously recommended that the plant be shut down. The management blames the “over enthusiasm” of the workers (6).

May 2002 Tritiated water leaks from a downgraded heavy water storage tank at the tank farm of Rajasthan Atomic Power Station (RAPS) 1&2 into a common dyke area. An estimated 22.2 Curies of radioactivity is released into the environment (7).

November 2001 A leak of 1.4 tonnes of heavy water at the NAPS I reactor, resulting in one worker receiving an internal radiation dose of 18.49 mSv (8).

April 2000 Leak of about seven tonnes of heavy water from the moderator system at NAPS Unit II. Various workers involved in the clean-up received ‘significant uptakes of tritium’, although only one had a radiation dose over the recommended annual limit (9).

March 1999 Somewhere between four and fourteen tonnes (10) of heavy water leaks from the pipes at Madras Atomic Power Station (MAPS) at Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu, during a test process. The pipes have a history of cracks and vibration problems (11) . Forty-two people are reportedly involved in mopping up the radioactive liquid (12).

May 1994 The inner surface of the containment dome of Unit I of Kaiga Generating Station collapses (delaminates) while the plant is under construction. Approximately 130 tonnes of concrete fall from a height of nearly thirty metres (13), injuring fourteen workers. The dome had already been completed (14), forming the part of the reactor designed to prevent escape of radioactive material into the environment in the case of an accident. Fortunately, the core had not then been loaded.

February 1994 Helium gas and heavy water leak in Unit 1 of RAPS. The plant is shut down until March 1997 (15).

March 1993 Two blades of the turbine in NAPS Unit I break off, slicing through other blades and indirectly causing a raging fire, which catches onto leaked oil and spreads through the turbine building. The smoke sensors fail to detect the fire, which is only noticed once workers see the flames. It causes a blackout in the plant, including the shutdown of the secondary cooling systems, and power is not restored for seventeen hours. In the meantime, operators have to manually activate the primary shutdown system. They also climb onto the roof to open valves to slow the reactions in the core by hand (16). The incident was rated as a Level 3 on the International Nuclear Event Scale, INES.

May 1992 Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur Atomic Power Station (17).

January 1992 Four tons of heavy water spilt at RAPS (17).

December 1991 A leak from pipelines in the vicinity of CIRUS and Dhruva research reactors at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Trombay, Maharashtra, results in severe Cs-137 soil contamination of thousands of times the acceptable limit. Local vegetation was also found to be contaminated, though contract workers digging to the leaking pipeline were reportedly not tested for radiation exposure, despite the evidence of their high dose (18).

July 1991 A contracted labourer mistakenly paints the walls of RAPS with heavy water before applying a coat of whitewash. He also washed his paintbrush, face and hands in the deuterated and tritiated water, and has not been traced since (19).

March 1991 Heavy water leak at MAPS takes four days to clean up (20).

against pakistan's

18 October 2011 Karachi, Pakistan The KANUPP Karachi nuclear power plant imposed a seven-hour emergency after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe to the reactor. The leakage took place during a routine maintenance shut down, and the emergency was lifted seven hours later, after the affected area was isolated.[36]

CIA have spent billions of dollar to find how pakistan transports its nuke and where it stores it but failed miserably
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ocation-of-all-Pakistans-nuclear-weapons.html
IAEA reports
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/new...ce-contributes-to-sustaining-nuclear-security
http://www.nss2016.org/document-center-docs/2016/4/1/national-statement-pakistan
its an western propaganda but its good enough

and i will leave this one right here(check it if you are curious)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...es-index-ipsos-mori-poll-survey-a7481196.html

A Nuclear industry grown and developed by us without any outside assistance is bound to have mistakes. Hell. If we post the mistakes done by Russia, one thread wont be enough. Or the one by USA too.

Those who get the manual with everything shouldnt complain about safety record
 
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Please see my post above to clear things up before weekend.
By they way, it is the people of Pakistan who know and decide who is our enemy and assign the duty of army to defend the nation. Pakistan was created through a democratic struggle and people laid their lives so we cannot forget their sacrifices and things have grown worse over time so none needs to tell us who is our enemy. Our enemy is against CPEC, diverting our waters, killing our people in IoJ&K, and preparing for war so I think we also read newspapers and watch TV channels.. I haven't seen ISPRs brief to the nation on this issue.

In such situations, cause-effect scenarios are frequently misunderstood. Once the American deep state had decided that destroying the Soviet Union and communism was it's primary agenda post-WWll, they really shouldn't have been surprised at the reaction from the Soviets. Do you think the average American cared about the Soviet Union or communism? Their opposition to it was the result of propaganda, and the mutual hatred became self-reinforcing in nature.

Now you may not agree with the suggestion that same was the case with the Pakistani security establishment. Enmity with it's neighbor was the oxygen required for its sustenance, just as the American military-industrial complex required the Cold War.

Things have now reached a level where ISPR does not need to issue statements. Pakistanis have been nurtured to believe this from 1947, and 4 wars and numerous skirmishes later it needs no further emphasis. CPEC, water treaties, border-shelling, etc. are simply fait accompli, helping embellish the story further. If it was not this it would be something else. As if any of these were needed for support to Khalistan, Kashmir, ULFA, 26/11, Parliament attack, etc, etc.

In other words, your not-so-deep state has done a wonderful job of brainwashing, which will now be difficult to undo. The train left the station long back.
 
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A Nuclear industry grown and developed by us without any outside assistance is bound to have mistakes. Hell. If we post the mistakes done by Russia, one thread wont be enough. Or the one by USA too.

Those who get the manual with everything shouldnt complain about safety record
oh my nuclear industry developed by india, your nuclear industry is only developed by russia now by japan and russia no country can developed a nuclear plant without certifying it self by IAEA and as far as i know only US china nd russia have these certification

when you people have nothing in defence you reply like this
 
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There is only one solution. Resolve kashmir dispute and other before nuclear conflict scenario. Friendship is possible after resolving all conflicting issues peacefully.
 
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this is ironic , considering Pakistan ranks below India in 2016 nuclear security index, like previous years.


http://www.nti.org/media/pdfs/NTI_2016_Index_FINAL.pdf

THEFT RANKING

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that doesn't make Indian program safe.you are comparing your self to an unstable,isolated,poor country.
the truth is both countries are below average but nuclear material accidents have happened more in India.

this is ironic , considering Pakistan ranks below India in 2016 nuclear security index, like previous years.


http://www.nti.org/media/pdfs/NTI_2016_Index_FINAL.pdf

THEFT RANKING

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Pakistan scored more in security.
 
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that doesn't make Indian program safe.you are comparing your self to an unstable,isolated,poor country.

how does this counter my point that india is better than may other countries ? especally when OP's biased blog rant is saying india is " most insecure" when clearly Pakistan ranks below India.

nuclear material accidents have happened more in India.

us,Russia,japan,china all have more "nuclear material accidents" than India, because they operate more nuclear reactors than India. you need to look at per capita not raw numbers.


Pakistan operates 4 nuclear reactors
India operates 21 nuclear reactors
china operates 35 nuclear reactors

Pakistan scored more in security.

what? pak ranks 23/24 in security ,while india ranks 21/24.

Pakistan is literally in the last but one bottom spot in security
 
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well the world is saying a different thing
https://www.publicintegrity.org/201...are-vulnerable-theft-us-officials-and-experts

and before sending any data please read by yourself
let me explain:
nti uses its security measures to define how a county perform in security of a countries nuclear arsenal which includes the economic performance(if economy fails nuke can goes into hands of terrorists) of a country,its cyber space (system can be hack and location of nuke can be leak),political stability, insurgencies ,advancement in technology,inner surveillance of nuclear site,thread to a country. these are the measures it uses in ranking

but as far as world know how many accident happens in india and smuggling
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ling-racket-busted-rajasthan-ats-arrests-six/
April 2011 Fire alarms blare in the control room of the Kaiga Generating Station in Karnataka. Comments by officials alternately say there was no fire, that there was only smoke and no fire, and that the fire was not in a sensitive area (2). Details from the AERB are awaited.

November 2009 Fifty-five employees consume radioactive material after tritiated water finds its way into the drinking water cooler in Kaiga Generating Station. The NPCIL attributes the incident to “an insider’s mischief” (3).

April 2003 Six tonnes leak of heavy water at reactor II of the Narora Atomic Power Station (NAPS) in Uttar Pradesh (4), indicating safety measures have not been improved from the leak at the same reactor three years previously.

January 2003 Failure of a valve in the Kalpakkam Atomic Reprocessing Plant in Tamil Nadu results in the release of high-level waste, exposing six workers to high doses of radiation (5). The leaking area of the plant had no radiation monitors or mechanisms to detect valve failure, which may have prevented the employees’ exposure. A safety committee had previously recommended that the plant be shut down. The management blames the “over enthusiasm” of the workers (6).

May 2002 Tritiated water leaks from a downgraded heavy water storage tank at the tank farm of Rajasthan Atomic Power Station (RAPS) 1&2 into a common dyke area. An estimated 22.2 Curies of radioactivity is released into the environment (7).

November 2001 A leak of 1.4 tonnes of heavy water at the NAPS I reactor, resulting in one worker receiving an internal radiation dose of 18.49 mSv (8).

April 2000 Leak of about seven tonnes of heavy water from the moderator system at NAPS Unit II. Various workers involved in the clean-up received ‘significant uptakes of tritium’, although only one had a radiation dose over the recommended annual limit (9).

March 1999 Somewhere between four and fourteen tonnes (10) of heavy water leaks from the pipes at Madras Atomic Power Station (MAPS) at Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu, during a test process. The pipes have a history of cracks and vibration problems (11) . Forty-two people are reportedly involved in mopping up the radioactive liquid (12).

May 1994 The inner surface of the containment dome of Unit I of Kaiga Generating Station collapses (delaminates) while the plant is under construction. Approximately 130 tonnes of concrete fall from a height of nearly thirty metres (13), injuring fourteen workers. The dome had already been completed (14), forming the part of the reactor designed to prevent escape of radioactive material into the environment in the case of an accident. Fortunately, the core had not then been loaded.

February 1994 Helium gas and heavy water leak in Unit 1 of RAPS. The plant is shut down until March 1997 (15).

March 1993 Two blades of the turbine in NAPS Unit I break off, slicing through other blades and indirectly causing a raging fire, which catches onto leaked oil and spreads through the turbine building. The smoke sensors fail to detect the fire, which is only noticed once workers see the flames. It causes a blackout in the plant, including the shutdown of the secondary cooling systems, and power is not restored for seventeen hours. In the meantime, operators have to manually activate the primary shutdown system. They also climb onto the roof to open valves to slow the reactions in the core by hand (16). The incident was rated as a Level 3 on the International Nuclear Event Scale, INES.

May 1992 Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur Atomic Power Station (17).

January 1992 Four tons of heavy water spilt at RAPS (17).

December 1991 A leak from pipelines in the vicinity of CIRUS and Dhruva research reactors at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Trombay, Maharashtra, results in severe Cs-137 soil contamination of thousands of times the acceptable limit. Local vegetation was also found to be contaminated, though contract workers digging to the leaking pipeline were reportedly not tested for radiation exposure, despite the evidence of their high dose (18).

July 1991 A contracted labourer mistakenly paints the walls of RAPS with heavy water before applying a coat of whitewash. He also washed his paintbrush, face and hands in the deuterated and tritiated water, and has not been traced since (19).

March 1991 Heavy water leak at MAPS takes four days to clean up (20).

against pakistan's

18 October 2011 Karachi, Pakistan The KANUPP Karachi nuclear power plant imposed a seven-hour emergency after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe to the reactor. The leakage took place during a routine maintenance shut down, and the emergency was lifted seven hours later, after the affected area was isolated.[36]

CIA have spent billions of dollar to find how pakistan transports its nuke and where it stores it but failed miserably
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ocation-of-all-Pakistans-nuclear-weapons.html
IAEA reports
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/new...ce-contributes-to-sustaining-nuclear-security
http://www.nss2016.org/document-center-docs/2016/4/1/national-statement-pakistan
its an western propaganda but its good enough

and i will leave this one right here(check it if you are curious)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...es-index-ipsos-mori-poll-survey-a7481196.html
As per NTI (see below citations), Pakistani firepower of total nuclear stockpile is 2.1 megatons, is more than twice of that of India. If Pakistan maintains effective second strike capability, say sea-based medium-range SLCM with warheads at yield range 15-50 kt, it's a powerful deterrent. Even for pure destruction purpose, willing to take retaliatory losses, assuming full firepower can be delivered on Pakistan, India still cannot decisively neutralize Pakistani conventional forces. First use is not a sound doctrine.

Russia 607~1,273 megatons
US 570 megatons
China 294 megatons
France 34.2~43.8 megatons
UK 16 megatons
Israel 1.6~12 megatons
Pakistan 2.1 megatons
India 1 megaton
North Korea 0.05 megaton

Sources:
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/russia-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/united-states-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/france-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/united-kingdom-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/israel-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/pakistan-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/india-nuclear-disarmament/
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/north-korea-nuclear-disarmament/

how does this counter my point that india is better than may other countries ? especally when OP's biased blog rant is saying india is " most insecure" when clearly Pakistan ranks below India.



us,Russia,japan,china all have more "nuclear material accidents" than India, because they operate more nuclear reactors than India. you need to look at per capita not raw numbers.


Pakistan operates 4 nuclear reactors
India operates 21 nuclear reactors
china operates 35 nuclear reactors



what? pak ranks 23/24 in security ,while india ranks 21/24.

Pakistan is literally in the last but one bottom spot in security
 
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how does this counter my point that india is better than may other countries ? especally when OP's biased blog rant is saying india is " most insecure" when clearly Pakistan ranks below India.



us,Russia,japan,china all have more "nuclear material accidents" than India, because they operate more nuclear reactors than India. you need to look at per capita not raw numbers.


Pakistan operates 4 nuclear reactors
India operates 21 nuclear reactors
china operates 35 nuclear reactors



what? pak ranks 23/24 in security ,while india ranks 21/24.

Pakistan is literally in the last but one bottom spot in security

according to who?

stop pulling out rubbish from thin air.
 
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according to who?

stop pulling out rubbish from thin air.
what kind of retarded counter is this, according to the NTI index, the document which you are currently criticizing. literally the only international NGO that ranks security
 
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Nope, that's not all chest thumping, they have budget, technology, motivation (however evil) and support of certain countries so they are doing it right now.
We need to be realistic and focus on countering this through ramping up our own production and also developing countermeasures.


Nope, for deep state, a country needs huge budget, huge population and a large area and we lack all three so we don't have any deep state.
Nonsense.
 
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It does not matter what people want, it is the govt that decides and whenever they want, they build up hype and hysteria... they have good practice on this. Right now india is being controlled by a fascist regime and it can do anything so lets not be under any illusions.
Your own words undermine your position.

If this is a peculiarity of this administration, what was the situation earlier? Where was the provocation coming from? Why do the current pack in charge find so much popular sympathy when they refer to a continuous and unrelenting assault on our peaceful state?
 
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