India's Nuclear Agreement

[gpit]

Just try to summarize this indi-us N-deal stuff with one statement: there is no free lunch from the American, because this is American culture!

 

[nitesh]

a good read guys

http://www.barc.ernet.in/publications/nl/2007/200710-1.pdf

says about computer simulated tests and plasma stealth

 

[Flintlock]

Just try to summarize this indi-us N-deal stuff with one statement: there is no free lunch from the American, because this is American culture!

?? What was that again?

 

[Marshal]

I agree.

It would be very interesting, if India also manages to project Taiwan or some other country as a counterweight.
But unfortunately, these countries are too small and relatively easy to handle militarily.

However, India should go ahead with this option, that would send a strong signal to China.

Actually India has started doing that from last couple of years after chinease economic and military pressence in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Burma......India is in the process of building and improving its strategic relations with Japan, S koria and Most importent Vietnam. Indian Naval ships are now regularly visiting vietnam. Recently china has reacted very strongly when Indian oil compony started drilling in Vietanami water for oil. Many Indian privet and public sector componies are right now in the process of investing huge money in Vietnam.

 

[Spring Onion]

Making India "full partner" in NSG is next aim for US


Press Trust Of India
New Delhi, September 08, 2008
First Published: 16:21 IST(8/9/2008)
Last Updated: 17:25 IST(8/9/2008)

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After working "tirelessly" for securing a waiver for India from the Nuclear Suppliers' Group for trade in the atomic energy, the US on Monday said its next aim is to make New Delhi a "full partner" in the nuclear cartel.

"President Bush, Secretary of State and the entire administration had worked tirelessly to ensure that India reached the stage where it has today in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)," Assistant Secretary (Market Access and Compliance) in the US Department of Commerce David Bohigian said in New Delhi.

Bohigian said Bush and the Congress administration would continue to work to "make India a full partner in this group (NSG) which we think is crucial... From a strategic, political, economic and energy standpoint".

He said the US administration would be working through the Congress and the Hyde Act to ensure $100 billion r market for American companies.

"The next step for the US (administration) will be working through the Congress and the Hyde Act and make sure that business opportunities will enable the US firms to stay in what is estimated to be $100 billion market," the official said at a CII seminar.

He said atomic energy would play an important role for economic development of India. "When you look at the energy map of 2020 and beyond, certainly nuclear has a key role to play in India's growth which we welcome," Bohigian said.

According to industry body Assocham, about 40 companies, including Videocon, have already started talks with foreign firms to set up nuclear power plants envisaging a total investment of about Rs 2,00,000 crore in India.

"We have asked the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for amendments in the legislations to facilitate the entry of private sector in generation of nuclear power," Videocon group head Venugopal Dhoot said.


Making India "full partner" in NSG is next aim for US- Hindustan Times

 

[Spring Onion]

India to sell nuclear deal to world, soothe critics


Krittivas Mukherjee, Reuters
New Delhi, September 08, 2008
First Published: 14:42 IST(8/9/2008)
Last Updated: 14:55 IST(8/9/2008)

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India will take its civilian nuclear deal with the United States to the world looking to secure fuel supplies and reactor technology, analysts said, while seeking to soothe critics with a strong non-proliferation pitch.

But it is unlikely India will launch formal nuclear trade negotiations ahead of the new deal's ratification by the US Congress, given the strong backing from Washington that helped seal the deal.

The 45 nations of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) on Saturday backed a US proposal and adopted a one-off waiver of a 34-year-old global ban on nuclear trade with India, allowing New Delhi and Washington to do business.

Congressional approval is the final hurdle for the agreement, seen as the cornerstone of India-US relations and essential to India's rising energy needs to power its booming economy.

The deal could come up for a vote in Congress this month. In the meantime, India could open informal negotiations for nuclear reactors and uranium supplies.

Robinder Sachdev, president of public diplomacy think tank Imagindia, said he expected India would adopt a two-pronged approach: making public announcements on disarmament, while lobbying the two houses of Congress and overseas Indian groups.

Critics, many of them in the US Congress, believe the deal undermines efforts to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and sets a precedent allowing other nations to seek to buy such technology without signing the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

"The onus of seeing the deal through is on the Bush administration," Sachdev said.

"But India being a stakeholder will do its bit, and public pronouncements couched in strong disarmament language may help assuage the non-proliferation lobby."

Analysts said that although India would not like to be seen hurrying into any nuclear business deals until the US agreement is closed, the one-off NSG waiver means it is free to trade on the world market.

"Technically India can talk with non-US nuclear vendors, but it is highly unlikely because the US will not like it, and it will want a level playing field," Bharat Karnad, an Indian strategic affairs expert, told Reuters on Monday.

What India could do is launch a simultaneous diplomatic offensive to woo uranium suppliers such as Australia, who see the controversial India-US nuclear deal as counter-productive to global non-proliferation efforts, analysts said.

The NSG waiver has been welcomed by Indian businesses. Indian shares opened 4 percent up on Monday with power sector shares rising between 4 per cent and 10 per cent in opening trade.

Industry lobby group the Confederation of Indian Industry said it expected about $27 billion in investment in 18-20 new nuclear power plants over the next 15 years.

While the deal holds the key to unlocking billions of dollars worth of nuclear business, it is a potential political minefield for India's Congress party, which heads the ruling coalition and survived a parliamentary vote on the pact in July.

The vote was marred by allegations that the government tried to bribe opposition members into either voting in favour or abstaining.

Analysts say the deal will likely be an issue in Indian elections due by May, with opposition parties accusing the government of having signed away India's nuclear sovereignty and independent foreign policy.

But for the government, the immediate concern is the shortening US legislative calendar.

Time is running out on the agreement given that Congress is expected to adjourn by the end of September so lawmakers can campaign for the November 4 US presidential election.
India to sell nuclear deal to world, soothe critics- Hindustan Times

 

[Marshal]

Manmohan Singh will be remembered for two Historic moments
1) Liberalisation of Indian Economy in 1991 when he was Finance Minister
2) Ending India's Nuclear Isolation............Singh is King Singh is King Singh is King

These days many Indian Mambers are singing Singh is King song , here it isYouTube - Manmohan Singh is King

The real song
YouTube - Bas Ek King - Full Song - Singh Is Kinng

 

[Neo]

Mixed reactions from India and abroad.

US-India nuclear deal called “foolish and risky”​

Kamdar states deal will make every country sell N-technology to New Delhi​

WASHINGTON: The US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement approved by the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) in Vienna is a “foolish and risky deal” that will make every country free to sell nuclear technology to India while “asking virtually nothing from India in return”, in the process undermining the very international system that India so ardently seeks to join, according to a critical assessment published here on Sunday.

Mira Kamdar, a fellow at Asia Society, New York, writes in the Washington Post that while India needs energy, “this foolish, risky deal is not the way to get any of these things. India’s democracy has already paid a crippling price, and now the planet may too”. The Indo-US nuclear co-operation agreement was approved by the NSG at its meeting in Vienna this weekend. However, it still has to find congressional approval, an exercise that it may not be possible to complete during the short time left to do that. The deal, Kamdar argues, risks triggering a new arms race in Asia. If it passes, a “miffed and unstable Pakistan will seek nuclear parity with India, and China will fume at a transparent US ploy to balance Beijing’s rise by building up India as a counterweight next door”. The pact will gut global efforts to contain the spread of nuclear materials and encourage other countries to flout the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that India is now being rewarded for failing to sign.

Kamdar believes that the deal will divert billions of dollars away from India’s real development needs in sustainable agriculture, education, health care, housing, sanitation and roads. It will also distract India from developing clean energy sources, such as wind and solar power, and from reducing emissions from its many coal plants. Instead, the pact will focus the nation’s efforts on an energy source that will, under the rosiest of projections, contribute a mere 8 percent of India’s total energy needs — and that will not happened until 2030. The deal will generate billions of dollars in lucrative contracts for major US and Indian companies as well as help resuscitate the moribund US nuclear power industry. France and Russia, both of which support the deal, will reap huge profits in India. According to one estimate, the deal will generate more than $100 billion in business over the next 20 years, as well as a large number of jobs in India and the United States..

Kamdar writes that India will get unfettered access to nuclear fuel and technology without doing anything in return. It will not have to open all its reactors to inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which means that both the new technologies India will now be able to acquire and the fuel it now has on hand can be ploughed into its nuclear weapons programme. “More ominously, the deal will tell other would-be nuclear powers — and nuclear rogues — that the old barriers to non-proliferation need not be taken seriously. They certainly have not been taken seriously by the US. Other, less high-minded powers will surely follow the shortsighted example being set by Delhi and Washington. Russia has emphatically signalled that it has had enough of global norms that it considers unfair and is keen to return to old-fashioned realpolitik. The prospect of meaningful steps toward disarmament by the existing nuclear powers is slim and dwindling.” The deal will not magically transform India into China’s economic or military equal. Even if India managed to match China reactor for reactor and missile for missile, it could do so only at the expense of precisely the investments in human and physical infrastructure that could make India into a truly great power, prosperous and secure. This is the real tragedy of the US-India nuclear deal, she concludes. .

 

[ashfaque]

Friends....
I do not know why you people spreading only negative news... One way you are opposing the deal another way you need same.

Its immature reaction......

I think you should spread positive news (mostly there are positive news only), that may increase your chance to come out of denial regime....

 

[BATMAN]

Friends....
I do not know why you people spreading only negative news... One way you are opposing the deal another way you need same.

Its immature reaction......

I think you should spread positive news (mostly there are positive news only), that may increase your chance to come out of denial regime....

You are free to post positive news and show us the positive dimension of this deal.
What exactly do you classify as opposition?
There is a global rule and world super powers and UN has acted like a dictator and humiliated the rest of the world.
Nuclear technology is the right of every nation, whole world is in need of energy. Giving it to those who having track record of aggression towards neighbors is hilarious.

 

[Flintlock]

You are free to post positive news and show us the positive dimension of this deal.
What exactly do you classify as opposition?
There is a global rule and world super powers and UN has acted like a dictator and humiliated the rest of the world.
Nuclear technology is the right of every nation, whole world is in need of energy. Giving it to those who having track record of aggression towards neighbors is hilarious.

Thankfully the rest of the world has a much different opinion.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Friends....
I do not know why you people spreading only negative news... One way you are opposing the deal another way you need same.

Its immature reaction......

I think you should spread positive news (mostly there are positive news only), that may increase your chance to come out of denial regime....

I think your response is what is immature - do the rules state that only positive analysis needs to be posted? If it is from a legitimate source, then all views should be discussed.

If you disagree, debate the arguments in the post, rather than throw tantrums like this.

 

[ashfaque]

I think your response is what is immature - do the rules state that only positive analysis needs to be posted? If it is from a legitimate source, then all views should be discussed.

If you disagree, debate the arguments in the post, rather than throw tantrums like this.

Do not get excited... I am saying posting only negative reports.... That shows people are not in mood to do positive analysis....

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Do not get excited... I am saying posting only negative reports.... That shows people are not in mood to do positive analysis....

You are repeatig the same thing you said above.

You can rebut the points in the articles posted, if you do not agree with them, but questioning other members motivations, and accusing them of this and that is just not cricket.

Stay on topic or say nothing.

 

[nitesh]

Abu Dhabi, Sept 8 (ANI): Pakistan has expressed its concern over the 45 member Nuclear Suppliers Groups (NSG) approval for India.

Its defence attache in the UAE believes that an arms race will follow in South Asia as a result of NSGs decision to lift the three-decade ban on nuclear trade with India.

According to the Gulf News, the Pakistani Embassy Defence attache Khawar Hussain said, “I can foresee a nuclear arms race between the two countries and even China.”

Hussain says that the NSGs decision will lead to ”weaponisation” and further escalate the tensions between the rival countries, as it would allow India to buy nuclear fuel and technology from the world market.

He further said that the United States has acted in a discriminatory manner by aiding India to get the NSGs approval, when Pakistan and India are on an equal footing as far as being non-signatories to the NPT.

The US is likely looking to India to counter China in the region and, of course, for economical reasons, added Hussain.

However, Pakistans Foreign Ministry hasnt yet issued a formal statement condemning the decision of the NSG. (ANI)

Pak UAE envoy says NSG nod to India will spur arms race in South Asia