India’s first bullet train corridor may be world’s cheapest high-speed service

[HariPrasad]

India is a 2 trillion economy, China started to build first 250km/h railway(Qinhuangdao-Shenyang) in 1999 and finished in 2002.


If an old railway is upgraded to 200km/h, according to World Bank definition, it can be called HSR.
Btw, to achieve 200km/h as maximum speed very easy, but make a whole railway upgraded to 200km/h, even pricer than building a new one. You have to upgrade railway crossing to flyover, enlarge the distance between 2 tracks, more tunnels and bridges, etc. In China, after 6 rounds of speed-up campaign from 1997-2007, the highest speed of old railway was upgraded from 120km/h, 140km/h, 160km/h, to 200-250km/h, cost too much money!
@Bussard Ramjet your opinion?

Let's refer to World Bank's analysis on a 200-250 km/h railway in China
A Look at the Impact of China's GuiGuang and NanGuang Rail Lines
Passengers of recently opened Wuzhou-Nanning rail line describe new opportunities | Transport for Development
World Bank Sr. Infrastructure Specialist Gerald Ollivier interacts with passengers on the new Wuzhou-Nanning rail line

• We met two farmers with their two young kids. They had been visiting their relatives for the second time using this train, travelling from Liuzhou to Zhaoqing in Guangdong. They used to meet their family, but infrequently as the bus trips were unpleasant, very long (about 8 hours from Liuzhou to Wuzhou), and dangerous particularly at night, considering the winding roads in Guangxi. They described this new line as a chance to meet their family more frequently, especially after the whole line opens, and to do so safely at a cost a bit lower than the bus (slightly below 0.05US$ per km).
  
• Two middle-aged migrant workers, a man and a woman, travelling to their next job 200 km away. There, they will do some house decoration for a while, before moving to their next job. They felt the train made their access to job opportunities easier and more convenient, compared to having to take the bus. They felt the fares were reasonable.
  
• A couple in their mid-30s, travelling to Guilin. The lady worked for a hospital and was a frequent business traveler. It took her four hours driving to reach her destination in Nanning before, a number that had been halved at this point. It meant for her that short and frequent trips to Nanning were now possible. She recommended increasing the number of trains each day to allow for regular day trips, as three was too little. (The number of trains is expected to grow when the full line opens.)
  
• A retired man travelling from Guiping to Guilin. He owned a home in both places, and was taking this line for the first time. He used to travel by long-distance buses, sometimes with a transfer. He thought the train was more comfortable and shorter, although more expensive than the bus he used before (US$19 compared to US$12), as the train entails a transfer and the bus route is more direct for that trip.
  
• In the first class cabin, we met a businessman working for a listed pharmaceutical company in Guangdong. He was already using the train more than 7 times a month. His business turnover had grown by 15 percent since the train opened, an achievement he attributed to his ability to meet more clients with the railways. He was eager to get a better connection to Guangzhou as well, since this is where the research lab for his company is located. The fare of a little over 0.06 US$ per km in first class was very reasonable in his view, as he would drive otherwise. The train ride was less tiring.
  
• A couple of young fashionable ladies, involved in sales, riding the train for the first time to attend a conference in a city 150 km away. They were glad to be able to travel in comfort at a reasonable price rather than taking a bus. Of course they did take a few snapshots with the Laowai (“foreigner”) who interviewed them…
  
• Last, a couple of people, well in their senior years at 73 and 81. For them, it was the joy of taking a travel to Guilin for tourism and to do so in a way that was still comfortable enough for them to enjoy. They felt that the bus, while available, was not comfortable enough at their age. They were excited to take their first ride in a fast train.

Freight corridor=freight-dedicated railway? Like heavy haul railway?
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Very informative.

We can push our railway to High speed in Phase manner. We already have engines of 5000 HP Plus(Bhim) Sufficient to push train beyond 200 KMPH. The need is to put sophisticated track and better traffic management system.

 

[Echo_419]

India is a 2 trillion economy, China started to build first 250km/h railway(Qinhuangdao-Shenyang) in 1999 and finished in 2002.


If an old railway is upgraded to 200km/h, according to World Bank definition, it can be called HSR.
Btw, to achieve 200km/h as maximum speed very easy, but make a whole railway upgraded to 200km/h, even pricer than building a new one. You have to upgrade railway crossing to flyover, enlarge the distance between 2 tracks, more tunnels and bridges, etc. In China, after 6 rounds of speed-up campaign from 1997-2007, the highest speed of old railway was upgraded from 120km/h, 140km/h, 160km/h, to 200-250km/h, cost too much money!
@Bussard Ramjet your opinion?

Let's refer to World Bank's analysis on a 200-250 km/h railway in China
A Look at the Impact of China's GuiGuang and NanGuang Rail Lines
Passengers of recently opened Wuzhou-Nanning rail line describe new opportunities | Transport for Development
World Bank Sr. Infrastructure Specialist Gerald Ollivier interacts with passengers on the new Wuzhou-Nanning rail line

• We met two farmers with their two young kids. They had been visiting their relatives for the second time using this train, travelling from Liuzhou to Zhaoqing in Guangdong. They used to meet their family, but infrequently as the bus trips were unpleasant, very long (about 8 hours from Liuzhou to Wuzhou), and dangerous particularly at night, considering the winding roads in Guangxi. They described this new line as a chance to meet their family more frequently, especially after the whole line opens, and to do so safely at a cost a bit lower than the bus (slightly below 0.05US$ per km).
  
• Two middle-aged migrant workers, a man and a woman, travelling to their next job 200 km away. There, they will do some house decoration for a while, before moving to their next job. They felt the train made their access to job opportunities easier and more convenient, compared to having to take the bus. They felt the fares were reasonable.
  
• A couple in their mid-30s, travelling to Guilin. The lady worked for a hospital and was a frequent business traveler. It took her four hours driving to reach her destination in Nanning before, a number that had been halved at this point. It meant for her that short and frequent trips to Nanning were now possible. She recommended increasing the number of trains each day to allow for regular day trips, as three was too little. (The number of trains is expected to grow when the full line opens.)
  
• A retired man travelling from Guiping to Guilin. He owned a home in both places, and was taking this line for the first time. He used to travel by long-distance buses, sometimes with a transfer. He thought the train was more comfortable and shorter, although more expensive than the bus he used before (US$19 compared to US$12), as the train entails a transfer and the bus route is more direct for that trip.
  
• In the first class cabin, we met a businessman working for a listed pharmaceutical company in Guangdong. He was already using the train more than 7 times a month. His business turnover had grown by 15 percent since the train opened, an achievement he attributed to his ability to meet more clients with the railways. He was eager to get a better connection to Guangzhou as well, since this is where the research lab for his company is located. The fare of a little over 0.06 US$ per km in first class was very reasonable in his view, as he would drive otherwise. The train ride was less tiring.
  
• A couple of young fashionable ladies, involved in sales, riding the train for the first time to attend a conference in a city 150 km away. They were glad to be able to travel in comfort at a reasonable price rather than taking a bus. Of course they did take a few snapshots with the Laowai (“foreigner”) who interviewed them…
  
• Last, a couple of people, well in their senior years at 73 and 81. For them, it was the joy of taking a travel to Guilin for tourism and to do so in a way that was still comfortable enough for them to enjoy. They felt that the bus, while available, was not comfortable enough at their age. They were excited to take their first ride in a fast train.

Freight corridor=freight-dedicated railway? Like heavy haul railway?
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You are not counting in Inflation, 2 trillion was much higher in value 10 years ago
On your 2nd point
I am not denying the importance of HSR it is very important & boosts the economy very much & of a foreign country provides us with Funding & Tech to build HSR we will welcome them with both hands.most probably our 1st line will be the Japanese funded Mumbai-Ahemdabad route & yes freight corridors mean dedicated lines for freight trains only

No idea dude, but India must indeed first upgrade the available Railways in my opinion, simply because you have no idea how messed up the current system is.

There should be parallel development of HSR in the next decade for main routes, which are viable, like Delhi-Mumbai, Mumbai-Pune, Mumbai-Ahmedabad, Hyderabad-Bangalore etc.

And than the normal railways should be made decent. Today most of the trains run an average of 80-90 kmph. Only very few trains are able to cross 100 kmph average speed. There is too much congestion etc.

So first all these trains must be upgraded to at least 150kmph on existing track. Than parallel track can be laid for viable high paying routes like I mentioned.


As far as I know, India doesn't have many dedicated freight lines. There are dedicated freight trains, but they run on normal track.

Fully agreed we should concentrate on improving & upgrading & exoanding the existing network but if a foreign country agrees to fund a HSR corridor we should not hesitate to go for that option