India’s fastest train completes final test run in record time - Shameful

[ZooZoo]

I have been a supporter of Bullet ... check my post history.

My Brother, Bullet Train is different project.. There will be specific corridor for bullet train. That is going on with its pace..

Increasing the speed and punctuality is different project . This trial was for second objective/project...

Don't club both.. Please appreciate Railway, at least they are doing something good...

 

[East or West India Best]

Pakistan will get one in CPEC before India

pakistan also got a metrobus before India.

 

[AugenBlick]

pakistan also got a metrobus before India.

Make a thread about DMIC.... inki haath me aa jayegi

 

[ayesha.a]

@AugenBlick
It's a great achievement indeed.
I don't think some should be so harsh about the definition of achievement. In China, we had 6 speed-up campaigns for our old railway system before 2008. And it has been proved that, old tracks can be upgraded to at least 200-250kph. So in 2008 even we didn't have real HSR at that time, we already had bullet trains operating at 200-250kph in upgraded old lines. So I think speeding up to 160kph is not something shameful ,but a start.

However, 690 rupees for 195km is quite expensive I think. A similar service in China, Wuhan-Jinzhou(200kph semi-HSR), 240km/1h20min-1h40min, is 59.5yuan（613 rupees), 50 trains daily.
@AugenBlick This price is similar to prices of 300kph bullet trains in China. I think if some Indians especially businessmen can tolerate this price, then it's not a problem for prices of HSR.

Rail ticket prices vary very heavily with the quality of service provided, even on the same train. The price for an air conditioned second class will be several times more than an un-airconditioned one, on most trains.

This particular train is supposed to provide a very high quality travel for tourists between Delhi and Agra. The coaches are all luxurious, every ctaering etc service is provided, and facilities like an 8 inch LCD display for every seat. The average railcar in India does not have anything close to that level of luxury, and are priced a lot lower.

This train runs a short journey to target rich tourists - of whom there are plenty, travelling to and from Agra. The regular semi high speed trains that will follow, after this one is succesfully put in service, will be cheaper, and travel longer distances, and cater to everyday travellers.

The important thing is that the technology to run at those speeds has been succesfully developed. Now it is only a matter of applying that on other routes. When trying out a new technology, it is good practice to target the most money making route, for financial prudence. It would be very unwise to try out this technology on a long distance Delhi-Mumbai route first.

 

[Hindustani78]

A view of the ITO metro station which is all set to inauguration, in New Delhi.

 

[East or West India Best]

Make a thread about DMIC.... inki haath me aa jayegi

CPEC> DMIC

Don't you know CPEC will solve everything? Overnight pakistan's economy will grow from the same level as Bombay's to double it! CPEC will make pakistan's GDP higher than India's within the week!

 

[ayesha.a]

No need to be proud we are stuck at 160 Km when the world is moving at 300km

By that standard, almost everything in India should cause you shame. Sending a chandrayan in 2009, when Americans put a man there in 1969; building an LCA Tejas when the world is building raptors and rafales and eurofighters; making some 2000 dollars per capita, when the world is making several times that; and so on.

India is what it is, and we can only grow incrementally. You cannot expect to see all the tens of thousands of kms of rail lines being turned into HSRs overnight.

 

[AndrewJin]

Rail ticket prices vary very heavily with the quality of service provided, even on the same train. The price for an air conditioned second class will be several times more than an un-airconditioned one, on most trains.

This particular train is supposed to provide a very high quality travel for tourists between Delhi and Agra. The coaches are all luxurious, every ctaering etc service is provided, and facilities like an 8 inch LCD display for every seat. The average railcar in India does not have anything close to that level of luxury, and are priced a lot lower.

This train runs a short journey to target rich tourists - of whom there are plenty, travelling to and from Agra. The regular semi high speed trains that will follow, after this one is succesfully put in service, will be cheaper, and travel longer distances, and cater to everyday travellers.

The important thing is that the technology to run at those speeds has been succesfully developed. Now it is only a matter of applying that on other routes. When trying out a new technology, it is good practice to target the most money making route, for financial prudence. It would be very unwise to try out this technology on a long distance Delhi-Mumbai route first.

My point is, the price of this service is similar to our G class bullet trains(300kph), and much pricer than our D class bullet trains(200kph). So, if this price is not a problem, then when India has a real HSR, prices will not be a big issue.

D class(200-250kph)

 

[Sneaker]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did not know that. Pakistan is ahead in one more area. Congratulation. I forgot to metion JF 17 much Ahead of tejas and Babur is much advanced than Brahmos.

Correction, JF 17 is more advanced than Su-30MKI...

 

[AugenBlick]

CPEC> DMIC

Don't you know CPEC will solve everything? Overnight pakistan's economy will grow from the same level as Bombay's to double it! CPEC will make pakistan's GDP higher than India's within the week!

India is so quiet on DMIC & DFC .... lol 78% of land acquisition is complete and construction has also begun.

 

[CMYX4BJ]

Why are Pakistanis jumping around. Do they even have trains that run in their country?

 

[deckingraj]

My point is, the price of this service is similar to our G class bullet trains(300kph), and much pricer than our D class bullet trains(200kph). So, if this price is not a problem, then when India has a real HSR, prices will not be a big issue.

D class(200-250kph)
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well you have a point...but also think like this...this train is for a specific class of audience on a specific route...also per Km price is high however in absolute number not too much that will blink an eye of tourists who want an easy, fast access to Agra(land of Taj)...so price may not be a problem here...however for bullet trains it may end up more than a flight...this may have comparatively less takers...

 

[AndrewJin]

well you have a point...but also think like this...this train is for a specific class of audience on a specific route...also per Km price is high however in absolute number not too much that will blink an eye of tourists who want an easy, fast access to Agra(land of Taj)...so price may not be a problem here...however for bullet trains it may end up more than a flight...this may have comparatively less takers...

https://defence.pk/threads/india’s-bullet-train-on-the-slow-track.378308/page-2#post-7213673
pls check my post #27
Most people in the west have an impression that taking bullet trains is pricer than by air. It is true in Japan and some lines in Europe. But a more comparable case is in China, also a developing country.
I agree when the distance is above 1500km, taking HSR is less competitive. But for services with a distance below 1000km-1200km, nearly all airlines have largely reduced services or completely cancelled all services in China. Note that average distance of CRH travellers in 2014 is less than 500km. For distance like 200-500km, long-distance coaches have no competitiveness compared to HSR.

 

[Echo_419]

Make a thread about DMIC.... inki haath me aa jayegi

Exactly mere toh paper chal rage hai islite time nahi hai par kisi ko bolo ki banaye

India is so quiet on DMIC & DFC .... lol 78% of land acquisition is complete and construction has also begun.

I am sure the figure is in upper 80s

 

[tested]

India is so quiet on DMIC & DFC .... lol 78% of land acquisition is complete and construction has also begun.

Source?