India’s defence imports 40 times its export basket

[Spy Master]

LOL,are we supposed to get impressed with this??
If you want to get out of your delusions then check our SIPRI's website and who imports more on per capita basis.

Did i quote you Mr. Chest Thumping Genius?? Read the title of this thread again to come out of your delusions...!

 

[gslv mk3]

Did i quote you Mr. Chest Thumping Genius??

no replies for me

 

[Spy Master]

Exactly what I meant-You guys are boasting about license producing this Chinese designed Fast attck craft .Meanwhile we are building aircraft carriers,destroyers,frigates & corvettes of indigenous design,and exporting OPVs & Corvettes

Yeah title of this thread says all....Tell me when the projects will complete...

 

[Spy Master]

no replies for me

no replies for me

I did reply you..infact i mention you for the fact you were the one lecturing me about indigenous products made by India in every field..but whenever you reply you only concentrate on Navy...and dont tell me that all the things you mentioned are 100% Indian made...!

 

[gslv mk3]

Yeah title of this thread says all....Tell me when the projects will complete...

Aircraft carrier is being built,rest are in service

I did reply you..infact i mention you for the fact you were the one lecturing me about indigenous products made by India in every field..but whenever you reply you only concentrate on Navy...and dont tell me that all the things you mentioned are 100% Indian made...!

I've mentioned about the choppers,radars,SAMs,guns,military vehicles and several other systems.remember ?

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

Well, your diagram, proved my point even more.
Developed/weathier countries seems to be the ones spending less on their military GDP % wise. How come developed countries like Italy, Germany, Japan, Australia etc spend just 1% or so of their GDP on defence than poorer developing countries like India who need this cash even more to improve their living standards than rich countries, and to make things worse, a major proportion of this amount is spent on importing weapons from us in the west/U S and Russia, making our companies even more wealthy/powerful than they are already. Same with poor countries like Pakistan spending a huge proportion of their GDP on defence with a considerable amount in imports. Meanwhile this money would have better been spent in the country itself/economy. Developing countries need to have a realisty check on whey they stand compared to other countries and know where their priorities should lie.

At least even though Russia still overspends on its military(over 4%, way more than china, india and even U.S ), still most/almost all of their military spending is spent locally/internally and they also exports tons of them abroad earning them valuable cash. so I will still give them that, they have an excuse at least , even though that is unsustainable in the long run as well.
Saudi Arabia and UAE get almost all their major weapon systems from abroad, but I can still give them this, since they have the cash/money to burn and a relatively decent living standards. Though they sure could do far better.
Anyway hope these poorer countries will get their acts together as their living standards improve , spend wisely, as this billions are needed more internally than on buying fancy toys from our defence companies/lobbies. After all, nobody is ever going to attack/invade a nuclear power like north Korea, much less bigger ones like Pakistan or India.

India spends 2.5% of its annual income (GDP) on defense and that is exactly the world average. Given that we have two nuclear armed neighbors, a troubled neighborhood that hosts the Talibans, sea pirates, despots and a growing internal menace of communist extremists this is not unjustified.

4000 years ago, in the banks of Indus, we had a really advanced civilization. Those people built fantastic cities, highly planned road system and completely peaceful. They knew no war, no weapons. As a result, they were not well prepared to face the natural disaster (or a human disaster) that would come to wipe them.

Until the 1960s, India failed to spend a lot on defense and we paid the price in costly wars with neighbors who took us for a pushover. In the global field, if you fail to have a strong deterrent, you will become a football played by other powers. To build a strong economy & eliminate poverty, we need to be sure that our borders are sound. A weak nation cannot grow a strong economy. Since the 1970s, we have been able to avoid direct wars (touchwood) and part of it is owed to our stable position.

Besides tackling external security issues, Indian army also helps build the infrastructure of the border areas and help the civilian governments during any emergency (natural or man-made). Some of the defense innovations help scientific progress outside.

And as far as the social indicators are concerned - the situation may have been appalling till the 1990's but after the economic liberalization of the Indian economy - the situation has been improving considerably - from poverty and malnutrition to literacy and providing basic amenities like electricity or collectively the HDI, India has improved a lot -

India's Exceptional Achievements in Social Sector and Improvements in Quality of Life
India winning war against Hunger & Malnutrition as child shunting declines sharply!

 

[shree835]

lol, shameful.

What an embarrassment for a country of one billion..

What an embarrassment for a country..That came existence in the name of Islam ...But don want Islamic rule and cannot make simple motor by own... Cheeeyaaaa...Shameless.

 

[HariPrasad]

On the contrary, it makes a huge difference!

An aircraft designed and developed abroad, for operational requirements different to them we have in India, just manufactured in India means => no benefits for increased development know how of our aero industry, just better production standards of basic parts and no focus on specific requirements of the Indian forces for the Indian environment (focus on hot and high capabilities, focus on materials and EW...).
That's why it's important to not just make India to a cheap production hub of basic parts, but to get the industry in JV or even better in joint developments that includes the development of critical techs and systems, as well as includes requirements of our forces.
Brahmos joint development includes the basic licence production of Russian parts in India, but more importantly the development and implementation of own systems, the modifications to any application our forces require, the upgrade development according to the needs of the Indian environment or needs. Compare that to a basic licence production of a western cruise missile in India, without credible ToT, no customization, no modifications developed and implemented by our industry...

I am talking in terms of Economy while you are looking at the things from Strategic angle. That is the reason for us to differ on topic.

 

[HariPrasad]

wow, you cite a taiwan-based , anti-China bullshit as truth to support your argument? which further prove india will never be a qualified opponent for China. by the way, there are tons of west reports about China collasp on the web in the past 20 years, you can go to celebrate everyone of them.

Ask your countryman who stayed in China, india's story only serves as a laugh stock for entertainment in our domestic forum, nothing more. you are not worth for us to take you seriously.

You are confused as ever. It is a Russian news reproduced in Taiwanese news paper.

 

[HariPrasad]

China's AESA technologies are light years ahead of Russia。

It seems that defination of Light years ahead is something else than what we understand.

 

[HariPrasad]

wow, you cite a taiwan-based , anti-China bullshit as truth to support your argument? which further prove india will never be a qualified opponent for China. by the way, there are tons of west reports about China collasp on the web in the past 20 years, you can go to celebrate everyone of them.

Ask your countryman who stayed in China, india's story only serves as a laugh stock for entertainment in our domestic forum, nothing more. you are not worth for us to take you seriously.

A typical brain washed thinking. If we quote from any western news paper, it is slave of America. If we quote china times, it is taiwani and anti china. What is credible according to you? The comments written in the blog by semi-educated brainwashed people?