India’s crackdown in Kashmir: is this the world’s first mass blinding?

[Hiraa]

Hate aside, If Pakistan could afford, you would have tried it long back.

india couldn't afford to do this to us either.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Because Israel took their land
Imagine if Pakistan had done this to India? Wouldn't indians hate Pakistanis more than they usually do?

Palestinian Muslims hated Jews even before that. The hate is not based on land alone. That is the latest justification. It goes deeper.

 

[Mamluk]

While Babur and Humayun enforced Jizya, Akbar removed it.

It's funny you say "enforced jizya". Does GoI ENFORCE taxes on you? Bad choice of words.

Jizya for non-Muslims was a small tax so they didn't have to enlist in the emperor's Army.

I would choose Jizya over forced conscription anyday!!

Hyder did not care, but his son Tipu forcefully converted all Hindus and Christians he could lay his hands on.

You do realize Hindus in Tipu's own kingdom revered and loved him? It was people in neighbouring kingdoms he conquered who hated him - obviously they would and rebellions were brutally suppressed (like any monarch would). But the accounts of forced conversion were written hundred years later - divide and rule?

The Nizams of Hyderabad hated him too, and they were Muslims.

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I will reply to some of the other points you raise later today.

 

[Tom M]

india couldn't afford to do this to us either.

If India wanted we could have very well kept a lot of Pakistan's land (including East Pakistan, it was only a matter of a consensuses with Sheikh Mujeeb and Awami league)as well as traded Kashmir with your 90K+ POW's of 1971. But we didn't.

Still you expect that India would make claim on Pakistan's Land ??

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It's funny you say "enforced jizya". Does GoI ENFORCE taxes on you? Bad choice of words.

Jizya for non-Muslims was a small tax so they didn't have to enlist in the emperor's Army.

I would choose Jizya over forced conscription anyday!!



You do realize Hindus in Tipu's own kingdom revered and loved him? It was people in neighbouring kingdoms he conquered who hated him - obviously they would.

The Nizams of Hyderabad hated him too, and they were Muslims.

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I will reply to some of the other points you raise later today.

You clearly don't know Islamic law.

The jizya amount is undefined, unlike zakat. In the Mughal times even (best times), tax rates were often 50% for non Muslims. Read how Alamgir gifted gold and rice to people who converted to Islam to avoid the Jizya.

You would prefer it? Yeah? How about you come to India and India imposes a special tax for Muslims, rate at our disposal? This is not a joke. Famines were rampant. The population was kept in check. That is one plus - I will agree.

Tipu's own kingdom - Mysore. Ask Kannadigas - people from Karnataka - how much they love Tipu. The 'Pakistani hero' (not an insult, you had a ship named after him) imposed Persian as the state language. In South India!!! The only Hindus who got gifts from him were the capitals Mutt, as he apparently had soothsayer capabilities. Even he was a superstitious bigot. Of course, I am ignoring what the Brits wrote about him. Just his letters. They are in India, written in neat Persian, for all to see. Come and read.

 

[Hiraa]

Palestinian Muslims hated Jews even before that. The hate is not based on land alone. That is the latest justification. It goes deeper.

They hated them so much that they let them in their homes when Europe kicked Jews out?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

They hated them so much that they let them in their homes when Europe kicked Jews out?

Nobody let anyone in, except for a few families.
Palestinian Jews got armed (bribing the Brits, and other WW2 powers). American Jews funded them as well. Jews from Europe came rushing as well - ready reinforcements. They then fought and captured land.

Arabs did not welcome them. That is propaganda. The Jews captured it themselves. - This part is true.

 

[Hiraa]

Nobody let anyone in, except for a few families.
Palestinian Jews got armed (bribing the Brits, and other WW2 powers). American Jews funded them as well. Jews from Europe came rushing as well - ready reinforcements. They then fought and captured land.

Arabs did not welcome them. That is propaganda. The Jews captured it themselves. - This part is true.

Arabs are not in this topic. Palestinians are. they opened they doors for them and Jews as you admit found a new "home". now US funds them $38 billion dollars every year to keep the captured land.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Arabs are not in this topic. Palestinians are. they opened they doors for them and Jews as you admit found a new "home". now US funds them $38 billion dollars every year to keep the captured land.

Come on. Palestinians are Arab.

 

[NALANDA]

Nobody forced Hindus to change religion. Those who did, did by choice.

There was no state policy of mass conversion or genocide.

There's no historical evidence, only right wing textbooks.

These are written to justify massacre and ethnic cleansing of Muslims.

U really believe the Muslim hordes and looters in medieval period were unlike modern world ISIS. You are really gullible..

You want proof....it's all around...but u will not believe.....brain washed you are having made to believe silly stuff...But carry on.

 

[cocomo]

Not an ounce of remorse in Indians for the unjust killings of countless Kashmiri kids. It kind of shows their religious morals or lack thereof.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Israel, apartheid city, occupied Palestinian land, criminals and murders of thousand and thousands of people since 1940's. Who is the real terrorist? one who occupied their land? or who is fighting to keep the remains of their land?

people need to go beyond cnn,bbc indian media to actually know whats happening in real world. its good to see the other side of the story.

There is always some other story to the original. But I prefer to watch the brighter side. By saying cnn, bbc, Indian media are all wrong sounds like you are the only person that is right. Huh!?!? To be clear India never occupied Kashmir by force. It was legally made an Indian territory.
If you say, it is against the will of people living in Kashmir. Then talk about Partition, did majority of Indians approve a partition? Or even a British rule? Do you think every decision should be made through plebiscite?
Rulers made the decision, we are made to follow it. That's how system works.

Not an ounce of remorse in Indians for the unjust killings of countless Kashmiri kids. It kind of shows their religious morals or lack thereof.

You can't expect it when all these is because of a terrorist who was killed in encounter operation. Though feels sympathy over the kids who were caught up in this mess by accident. But that doesn't undo the atrocities done by the elder kashmiri's.

 

[prashantazazel]

Rioters and separatists are best dealt with, using controlled violence by the military/LEA.
I feel the Indian government needs to act like Ataturk. Hang the separatist/religious leaders, and change the narrative out there.

 

[Lurch Adams]

Slightly more on the point -

This is an entire series of interviews actually, you can find the others on Youtube.

Note - not ONE of those interviewed was in favour of allowing jews to continue living in Israel. Some were merciful enough to just want them thrown out. As for the rest...

Rioters and separatists are best dealt with, using controlled violence by the military/LEA.
I feel the Indian government needs to act like Ataturk. Hang the separatist/religious leaders, and change the narrative out there.

There has undoubtedly been a failure on the part of the Indian government in allowing separatist leaders to go unchallenged. But IMO, one doesn't even need to use coercive powers. Just good intel gathering could have unearthed the nexus between the separatists and the Salafi/Wahhabi poison seeping into the Valley.

Ironically, there was at least one advantage of our failure to stop the Jihadi menace in the Valley. The waving of ISIS flags has happened in full view of the world, and is one of the reasons all countries find it so comfortable not to challenge the Indian government on its Kashmir policy.

 

[Daghalodi]

Nobody let anyone in, except for a few families.
Palestinian Jews got armed (bribing the Brits, and other WW2 powers). American Jews funded them as well. Jews from Europe came rushing as well - ready reinforcements. They then fought and captured land.

Arabs did not welcome them. That is propaganda. The Jews captured it themselves. - This part is true.

Palestinain jews and palestinian arab muslims were living peacefully during the ottoman empire, their co-existance is well documented as the arabs used to call them yahud awlad al arab ( palestinain jews) and NO they did not bribe the brits or other ww2 powers infact after the ottoman empire ashkenazi jews started to move into palestine but they were different from their sephardic brothers because they had their own customs and used to speak yiddish instead of hebrew it was these bolshievks from moscow that pressed for a separate jewish homeland.