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[rcrmj]

source?

you find out that South Africa bank, and look at their off-shore shareholders and investors```its a known fact in our circle here

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

you find out that South Africa bank, and look at their off-shore shareholders and investors```its a known fact in our circle here

please give me your source. i can't find anything. It will help me if you help me here.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

source?

naspers owned majority by south african standard bank while the later owned by china icbc bank and china citic group

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

naspers owned majority by south african standard bank while the later owned by china icbc bank and china citic group

Thanks for that info.

But I still couldn't find anything anywhere.

Can you please give me your source?

Also, I highly doubt that any single shareholder will own a majority (that is more than 50%) of a large and old company like Naspers.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Thanks for that info.

But I still couldn't find anything anywhere.

Can you please give me your source?

Also, I highly doubt that any single shareholder will own a majority (that is more than 50%) of a large and old company like Naspers.

Normally 33% can make the descision if you have common senses

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

naspers owned majority by south african standard bank while the later owned by china icbc bank and china citic group

But I did get the shareholding of Chinese companies in South African Standard Bank. They are nowhere majority.

Largest yes, but not majority.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

But I did get the shareholding of Chinese companies in South African Standard Bank. They are nowhere majority.

Largest yes, but not majority.
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Then who has the most significant power in this company ICBC with 20% or the one with 11%?

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Normally 33% can make the descision if you have common senses

Actually, there it is even murkier.

Because shares can be of many types.

I know it for a fact that Koos Bekker, the old CEO, controls the company due to special management and preferential shares.

Theoretically, a company can be controlled by members with any stake.

Alibaba is controlled by its founders, despite the fact that they together have less than 20% of the shares of Alibaba.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Actually, there it is even murkier.

Because shares can be of many types.

I know it for a fact that Koos Bekker, the old CEO, controls the company due to special management and preferential shares.

Theoretically, a company can be controlled by members with any stake.

Alibaba is controlled by its founders, despite the fact that they together have less than 20% of the shares of Alibaba.

That is called A-B Dual Class Structure
Like alibba Jack MA has only 7% but have 42.5% right to vote,i think pyatm maybe the same case but not sure yet!!

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

That is called A-B Dual Class Structure
Like alibba Jack MA has only 7% but have 42.5% right to vote,i think pyatm maybe the same case but not sure yet!!

You are quite knowledgeable in these matters.

I am sure you would understand than that ICBC's stake in Naspers is actually going to be very small. It has 20% stake in South African Bank. Even if we assume similar 20% stake of Bank in Naspers, the final stake in Naspers comes out to be only 4%.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

You are quite knowledgeable in these matters.

I am sure you would understand than that ICBC's stake in Naspers is actually going to be very small. It has 20% stake in South African Bank. Even if we assume similar 20% stake of Bank in Naspers, the final stake in Naspers comes out to be only 4%.

still the biggest compared to other holders no?plus,as we all know,jack ma with his 7% it can control all the subsidiaries of alibaba,so this 20% or this 4% as you mentions supposedly may have significant powers!
If you have 20% all you have to do is to persuade the rest holders with more than 15% ,
if you have 5% or 10% it would be a harder job...
As far as i know,33% is enough to control a public company!!! except the a-b dual class structure of course!