Indian Navy looking to buy Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton HALE UAV?

[500]

With 60,000 ft altitude it can see at 485 km. Thus while locating 485 km from Pakistan's shore one UAV can observe all its coastline:

Its very expensive though: some 200 mln + half million $ for each 24 h sortie.

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

With 60,000 ft altitude it can see at 485 km. Thus while locating 485 km from Pakistan's shore one UAV can observe all its coastline:

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Its very expensive though: some 200 mln + half million $ for each 24 h sortie.

Considering the fly away and operational costs I guess IAI Eitan would be better choice to make - Does Eitan have a naval variant and can it fit IN's purpose?

 

[500]

Considering the fly away and operational costs I guess IAI Eitan would be better choice to make - Does Eitan have a naval variant and can it fit IN's purpose?

Eitan has 45,000 ft operational altitude. So its max detection range will be 425 km (60 km less):

This radar can be installed for maritime patrol:

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/2/36832.pdf

* Long range maritime surveillance, up to 200 NM (370 km) (large targets up to horizon).

Triton is bigger altitude, bigger payload, faster. But much more expensive.

 

[acid rain]

With 60,000 ft altitude it can see at 485 km. Thus while locating 485 km from Pakistan's shore one UAV can observe all its coastline:

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Its very expensive though: some 200 mln + half million $ for each 24 h sortie.

I doubt Pakistan coast is of concern here. More to do with the new term on the block called "Indo pacific" and the quadrilateral assoc. That's under discussion - usage of naval surveillance remains common and sharing of data across to usn, IN, Australian navy and Japan navy.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Don't stop there! We know you want "it"

F-35, cough, cough...

Eventually.

 

[Penguin]

Looks like a pattern's emerging.

US/India/Australia/Japan operating the same platforms.

That can be good, or it can be bad.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

Don't stop there! We know you want "it"

F-35, cough, cough...

I really wonder wats wrong with it. F35 at high sea can do lots of things than u imagine . F35 may not not be a air superiority fighter but on A/C it's a beast which can tear into enemies anti aircraft systems of Chinese or even Russians. If India chose F35 and the us drones for INS Vishal it will be a force multipliers in many folds .

Mannnn F35 lightening 2 will be a game changer of naval war far . It's it's less RCS it can do destroy many surface vessel than any cruise missile can .

 

[axisofevil]

Can't trust the Americans this much

Why not? We bend over backwards for Pakistan and China....AND THEY ATTACKED US

 

[Abingdonboy]

Indian Navy looking to buy Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton HALE UAV?

Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

The Indian Navy Looks to Buy American HALE ( High Altitude Long Endurance ) UAV Specially for 24 hours Surveillance of Indian Coasts . The US forces Such as US Navy using MQ 4 C for Long Range Maritime Surveillance and the Air Force us RQ 4 named Global Hawk for some Ground Operation which gives assistance to US forces and Allied Forces Operating all over the World. The MQ 4C Always Fly at Altitude of some 60000 feet’s about which is vulnerable to most of the SAM Batteries . With speed of some 500km+ with some 24 Hours of Endurance.

Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton Air Configuration​

About - The Active Sensor Payload which is the Primary Sensor for Search and Track Targets . and A Hi Resolution Electro Optical Infrared Sensor (EOIR) for taking pictures and send it to General Head Quarters or Assigned Ships to Identify the Targets . even if Command need more Accurate information about the Target The UAV can come below 1000 ft and Gather Intel and Suddenly throttle over 60000 feets of Altitude . and Having some Electronic Support Measures which makes the UAV can operate at any Extreme Weather Conditions . The Main Active Sensor Radar capable of 360 degree view can give Track more than 100 of Targets at Fast refreshing Rate.

Flying at the Height of 60000 Feet it does not Pose any Problems to Civilian Air Traffic in case it can used in such Civilian Air ways . The Air force version of RQ 4 C used in Baltic and Persian Gulf which having Highly Possible of Hot Zone . once the Iranian F 14 Tried to Intercept the Global Hawk which is used by the CIA to gather Intel about Iranian Nuclear Program . But the Global Hawk Managed to escape from the Zone with the Support of US Air force F 22 Fighter.

Existing - The Indian Navy Currently Operates fleet of Manned Surveillance as well as Some Type of Unmanned MALE UAV's such as Heron UAV Imported from the Jewish State Israel . The Manned Platforms include Smaller Range Do 228 and Medium Range IL 38 SD from Medium to Long Range Tu 142 and Newly Acquired New Generation P 8 I . With the Unmanned MQ 4 they Navy get 24 hours of Patrol along the Indian Coasts with Just some 8 to 10 such Platforms.

The Indian Army is also Looking for RQ Version of Triton for 24 Hours of Surveillance over the Border to Keep an Eye every Seconds on the Border . The Army uses small UAV's to MALE (Medium Altitude Higher Endurance ) such as Rustom and Heron. But which can easily shot downed by Enemy Air Defences. and The Army's JSTARS Which is Currently Shaping in Israel. But Bringing the RQ 4 can venerable to their AD systems thanks to its extreme Height of Operation although called as a Low Orbital Satellite Platform which brings our Forces 24 hours of Vigilance along our Borders and Coasts.

Source:- Indian Aerospace/Defense News: India Looks to buy American MQ 4C HALE UAV

@SvenSvensonov @C130 @Genesis @gambit @Oscar @sancho @Capt.Popeye @Water Car Engineer @Abingdonboy @SpArK @sandy_3126 @janon @Penguin @AUSTERLITZ @500 @Nihonjin1051 @AMDR & others.

Nothing new in this news, the IN has been exploring this option for a number of years now and the US aggressively pushing for it since the IN opted for the world's most advanced MPA the P-8I. The Triton is touted s a complimentary product to the P-8 and the USN has invested heavily in this concept.

Don't stop there! We know you want "it"

F-35, cough, cough...

The IAF has no interest whatsoever in the F-35 but the IN remains a possible customer if certain things can be sorted out (end user agreements, offsets, industrial partnership etc).

All logic, arguements aside, F-35 will be a MASSIVE force multilier for the next AC. It would suddenly change the rules of the game !

Indeed, the F-35C (in tandem with E-2D AWACS) operating off IN CATOBAR flat tops will DOMINATE the IOR and be second only to the USN's Gerald Ford Class CVNs.

Everyone's so high in Triton that they are ignoring one critical argument against it, it's exorbitant price.200 million $ is a huge sum for a UAV.

Well the C-17s cost about the same. It is a question of whether the costs are justified so the IN needs to undertake a cost benefit analysis which they are more than capable of doing. If they see that the cost is justified then they have every right to go for this very capable system.

 

[Tshering22]

Don't stop there! We know you want "it"

F-35, cough, cough...

No @Nihonjin1051 - san, we don't want the JSF.

Doesn't fit anywhere in our defence policy. We cannot make it, we won't get the ToT, F-35 has its own different abilities which don't suit our doctrine.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Eitan has 45,000 ft operational altitude. So its max detection range will be 425 km (60 km less):

This radar can be installed for maritime patrol:

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/2/36832.pdf

* Long range maritime surveillance, up to 200 NM (370 km) (large targets up to horizon).

Triton is bigger altitude, bigger payload, faster. But much more expensive.

Neither the Triton and Eitan are needed for paksitan. There is already (and growing) coverage of that area.
This kind of platform is required for the IOR and ties up/is connected to increasing presence of foreign navies in the area. Undoubtedly; costs involved are high but the ability gained is worth-while. In any case, potential induction of such platforms is still down the line; so that will even get amortised.

Don't stop there! We know you want "it"

F-35, cough, cough...

Nope. While that bird has been thought about; its not on anybody's "wish-list" yet.

 

[janon]

Could somebody explain what the benefit is in using the P-8I (Neptune) and MQ-4C drones together? How do they complement each other? Also, can these drones be launched from any IN ship?

@Capt.Popeye @Penguin @gambit

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Could somebody explain what the benefit is in using the P-8I (Neptune) and MQ-4C drones together? How do they complement each other? Also, can these drones be launched from any IN ship?

@Capt.Popeye @Penguin @gambit

The Tritons have humongous endurance. They will scan the operational area and then link/cue-in to the P-8Is. No Poseidon can remain on-station as long as these platforms can. This also allows the Poseidons to stagger their sorties. Please do not forget that Tritons will link to not just the Poseidon but space-based sensors as well.

No; the Tritons cannot be launched from any IN ship and will not even be needed to.

 

[Agent_47]

Eitan has 45,000 ft operational altitude. So its max detection range will be 425 km (60 km less):

This radar can be installed for maritime patrol:

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/2/36832.pdf

* Long range maritime surveillance, up to 200 NM (370 km) (large targets up to horizon).

Triton is bigger altitude, bigger payload, faster. But much more expensive.

Which UAV is this article talking about? status?
IAI offers EADS a role in HALE UAV - 4/20/2004 - Flight Global

 

[illusion8]

That can be good, or it can be bad.

Of course, a change of status has it's risks and benefits. There is an alliance forming and when that happens someone else comes up with counter strategies. But we did not make the first move - so the alliance is a reactionary step.