Indian Muslims should learn something from African Americans

[Soumitra]

Its message from the BJP/RSS government is subtle my friend- Dont have to be a genius to see what here is the agenda for this government of India. Also why do you want to equate Indian Muslims with non Indian Muslims- 2 positive steps from the Majority (Indian Hindus) will go a long way-Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is being foolish- (Majority of Indian Muslims are Indians first-Its the majority who has to stand up for them)- My 2 cents.

With all due respect you seem to live in a cloud cuckoo land and don't want to see what is right in front of you. You know if leftist stop being hypocrites and condemn Muslims as much as they do Hindus then a lot of problems will be solved. Don't mollycoddle them and allow them to play the minority card or victim card

 

[ChennaiDude]

With all due respect you seem to live in a cloud cuckoo land and don't want to see what is right in front of you. You know if leftist stop being hypocrites and condemn Muslims as much as they do Hindus then a lot of problems will be solved. Don't mollycoddle them and allow them to play the minority card or victim card

Trust me I see what is in front of me in you- The victim here is India as a nation and not Hindus or Muslims- I have nothing else to say to you.

 

[Soumitra]

Trust me I see what is in front of me in you- The victim here is India as a nation and not Hindus or Muslims- I have nothing else to say to you.

The people of India rejected your "Idea of India" in 2014 and 2019. Sitting in a drawing room in New York you claim to know the ground realities of India.

 

[Nilgiri]

Chicha!!! Australia bhag jane per tera Dream tou cum true ho gaya.

Calm down, he is already being monitored by the Aussie security apparatus long while back, dumb clumsy idiot that he is on twitter. He will learn only later when the time is right, why its very useful to think and try practice one iota of common sense temperance....but its just not available to lost causes I suppose.

So this is his desperate outlet to feel relevant. Cling to something, instigate something in an echo chamber so he can get a tiny little rush again etc etc.

Ya India is a Democracy!!!

Look here, most of the varying stripes of emigres (incl myself) know nothing of what its like to live in the thick of it in UP/Bihar etc where there is the most intense visceral churn.

Add to it extra more if they are from state/sensibility like south India that reduces the potential water mark for depth-exploration even more.

They will generally speak in lofty theoretical platitudes that simply carry little to no relevance (or even deep context of why, where, what and how they formed in history in first place)....and they take a giant emotional (but doomed, artificial) stride to make it wholly relevant....and then go to preaching mode depending on the audience or time/personal needs available....or void that needs bridging...whatever.

I (speaking only for myself) have invested some time to listen to those that have come from the ground situation...but most do not do that...or even attempt it....and rely on every vanilla media ivory tower narrative exclusively that filters neatly through the emotional interior....rather than try move an iota outside of that or what real world perspectives and angst are.....that need respect and appreciation for real world solutions.

Keeping that stuff pristine and unadulterated by any pragmatic sense/scope is afterall the first step to getting a rush in virtue signalling (the end goal/depdendency for most of these types worldwide)...and you can see those that similarly thrive on their victimization complex (as be all end all) rush to give their approval (when they are not busy playing approval brigade dynamics with far far worse enemies to them in the real proven world...such is the emotional delusion). Its peanut butter and jelly match made in psychological heaven....each perfectly feeds off and sustains the other.

I have made my peace with this delusional permanence in the human condition and psyche at large.

The names and issues change a bit from place to place, but little else does.

They live in the US so much of the time....and you can see it all play out there too... livestreamed even.

But I guess excuse that there and indulge whatever else here....and flip it around as you need to when you want to. Like giving a layman a rubiks cube to solve, it can seem engaging and fun even if you have no idea how to solve it.

 

[Soumitra]

@ChennaiDude I see the Muslim families with 7-8 kids, I see the thookers and the tik-tockers. I see the "educated" Muslims threatening to cut off Assam from India. I see the maths teachers joining the terrorist ranks. And most importantly I see the leftist try to whitewash it.

None of this is ancient history. This is happening right in front of our eyes.

 

[ChennaiDude]

The people of India rejected your "Idea of India" in 2014 and 2019. Sitting in a drawing room in New York you claim to know the ground realities of India.

Yes I do know- I visit India 2 to 3 times a year and have most of my family in India and have quite o few friends still who are based in India-(Hindus/ Muslims Christians etc)- We do have our own whatsapp groups and have discussions and I see how this GOI is slowly eroding the fabric of the country- As far as rejecting My Idea of India-So before that what happened- BJP has held power only some 6 years- lets see how long before they too are shown the door....Stay humble my friend, Even the congress did not have a real opposition to them in the 1990's.

 

[xeuss]

@ChennaiDude I see the Muslim families with 7-8 kids, I see the thookers and the tik-tockers. I see the "educated" Muslims threatening to cut off Assam from India. I see the maths teachers joining the terrorist ranks. And most importantly I see the leftist try to whitewash it.

None of this is ancient history. This is happening right in front of our eyes.

I see Hindus openly lynching Muslims. Recording videos of it and circulating it with pride, with no consequences.

I see Hindus openly abusing Muslims with the vilest of language. No one even bats an eyelid.

I see Hindus orchestrating pogroms with full connivance of the law enforcement agencies.

This is happening right in front of our eyes.

 

[ChennaiDude]

@ChennaiDude I see the Muslim families with 7-8 kids, I see the thookers and the tik-tockers. I see the "educated" Muslims threatening to cut off Assam from India. I see the maths teachers joining the terrorist ranks. And most importantly I see the leftist try to whitewash it.

None of this is ancient history. This is happening right in front of our eyes.

Why do you think this is happening?- Maybe it all started with this useless Ram Janmabhoomi stuff- How would you react if you were a Muslim and see - Might is Right in front of you- What you say is happening in front of your eyes now is exactly what our Muslim brothers saw happening right in front of their eyes in the 1990's- Time to introspect my friend. (Every reaction has an opposite reaction as well-Even though now egual all the time)

 

[Soumitra]

Why do you think this is happening?- Maybe it all started with this useless Ram Janmabhoomi stuff- How would you react if you were a Muslim and see - Might is Right in front of you- What you say is happening in front of your eyes now is exactly what our Muslim brothers saw happening right in front of their eyes in the 1990's- Time to introspect my friend. (Every reaction has an opposite reaction as well-Even though now egual all the time)

Ram Janambhumi is not useless. It is matter of faith and pride for Hindus but you will never understand.

Do you know it was a 150+ years court case. If Muslims had vacated the site Hindus would have given them land elsewhere. This is what finally happened in November 2019

 

[ChennaiDude]

Ram Janambhumi is not useless. It is matter of faith and pride for Hindus but you will never understand.

To me it is useless as a Hindu-I prefer to live in the present and not in the past- Why would I break a structure to build another structure over it?- Makes no sense to me other that its a "Might is right" statement. Ok fine its sentimental to the Hindus, then at least wait for the court to make a decision first, do it by the book- Why drive this and make is a Mob demolition, there lies the problem.

 

[Soumitra]

To me it is useless as a Hindu-I prefer to live in the present and not in the past- Why would I break a structure to build another structure over it?- Makes no sense to me other that its a "Might is right" statement. Ok fine its sentimental to the Hindus, then at least wait for the court to make a decision first, do it by the book- Why drive this and make is a Mob demolition, there lies the problem.

Like I said you will never understand the sentiment. You will never understand the pain of a mosque built over one of your holiest site - a mosque proudly tauted as the sign of victory of your opponents.

Why didn't the Muslims give up the site and get alternative land. They had plenty of time.

BTW Might is Right is the law of nature as well as the law of man for millenia. Didn't you read Darwin's theory of evolution? Survival of the fittest

Babur used Might is Right in 1500's British used Might is Right to colonize the planet, your country uses Might is right all the time, China uses Might is right in the UN and against it's neighbors.

 

[xeuss]

Calm down, he is already being monitored by the Aussie security apparatus long while back, dumb clumsy idiot that he is on twitter. He will learn only later when the time is right, why its very useful to think and try practice one iota of common sense temperance....but its just not available to lost causes I suppose.

So this is his desperate outlet to feel relevant. Cling to something, instigate something in an echo chamber so he can get a tiny little rush again etc etc.



Look here, most of the varying stripes of emigres (incl myself) know nothing of what its like to live in the thick of it in UP/Bihar etc where there is the most intense visceral churn.

Add to it extra more if they are from state/sensibility like south India that reduces the potential water mark for depth-exploration even more.

They will generally speak in lofty theoretical platitudes that simply carry little to no relevance (or even deep context of why, where, what and how they formed in history in first place)....and they take a giant emotional (but doomed, artificial) stride to make it wholly relevant....and then go to preaching mode depending on the audience or time/personal needs available....or void that needs bridging...whatever.

I (speaking only for myself) have invested some time to listen to those that have come from the ground situation...but most do not do that...or even attempt it....and rely on every vanilla media ivory tower narrative exclusively that filters neatly through the emotional interior....rather than try move an iota outside of that or what real world perspectives and angst are.....that need respect and appreciation for real world solutions.

Keeping that stuff pristine and unadulterated by any pragmatic sense/scope is afterall the first step to getting a rush in virtue signalling (the end goal/depdendency for most of these types worldwide)...and you can see those that similarly thrive on their victimization complex (as be all end all) rush to give their approval (when they are not busy playing approval brigade dynamics with far far worse enemies to them in the real proven world...such is the emotional delusion). Its peanut butter and jelly match made in psychological heaven....each perfectly feeds off and sustains the other.

I have made my peace with this delusional permanence in the human condition and psyche at large.

The names and issues change a bit from place to place, but little else does.

They live in the US so much of the time....and you can see it all play out there too... livestreamed even.

But I guess excuse that there and indulge whatever else here....and flip it around as you need to when you want to. Like giving a layman a rubiks cube to solve, it can seem engaging and fun even if you have no idea how to solve it.

It is very interesting to note that most of humanity, throughout the ages, does not usually like to be classified within certain boxes. No matter how accurate that classification may be. They always hesitate to accept someone else choosing their position within any category. It is difficult to understand why this resistance, when their own conative actions can be interpreted by their behavior. Some psychiatrists have interpreted this resistance to be associated with a sense of unappreciation for their thoughts.

Motivations of such individuals are varied, and often dependent upon their past and present circumstances. Perhaps recognition within their extended societal sphere of influence was lacking. Or perhaps, more alarmingly, a deep sense of distrust. A lack of validation of their scattered thoughts could also play a factor. At this point, I am just typing up shit to see if the coffee drinker from the hills is paying attention or if he has decided to take a bathroom break and will come back and read. Some relationships can be tricky and their unpredictable nature can often spark an undesired reaction.

The sense of their thoughts being challenged often brings out a strange reaction. Though they claim to be open to criticism, their adverse reaction when faced with it often runs counter to their proclaimed inculpability. It is troubling to note that in such circumstances, their behavior can evolve from a moderate and mild disposition to something strangely disconcerting and flabbergasting. After the coffee has been finished, the hillbilly can use a dessert and continue to read the crap I have typed up. The urge to revert back to their own prejudices often compounds the situation. This unjustified behavior and attitude usually is accompanied by an urge to lash out to associate actions, usually negative, towards an individual or group of people.

To better establish how emotions figure into discrimination and prejudice, it is needed to determine how people sort sociocultural groups into categories and what emotions those groupings bring forth. Commonly, it is noted found that people tend to rate groups along two primary dimensions: warmth, or whether the group is friendly, trustworthy or sincere; and competence, or whether the group is skillful and capable. In turn, these ratings are associated with one of four emotions: disgust, pity, pride and envy.

 

[Soumitra]

It is very interesting to note that most of humanity, throughout the ages, does not usually like to be classified within certain boxes. No matter how accurate that classification may be. They always hesitate to accept someone else choosing their position within any category. It is difficult to understand why this resistance, when their own conative actions can be interpreted by their behavior. Some psychiatrists have interpreted this resistance to be associated with a sense of unappreciation for their thoughts.

Motivations of such individuals are varied, and often dependent upon their past and present circumstances. Perhaps recognition within their extended societal sphere of influence was lacking. Or perhaps, more alarmingly, a deep sense of distrust. A lack of validation of their scattered thoughts could also play a factor. At this point, I am just typing up shit to see if the coffee drinker from the hills is paying attention or if he has decided to take a bathroom break and will come back and read. Some relationships can be tricky and their unpredictable nature can often spark an undesired reaction.

The sense of their thoughts being challenged often brings out a strange reaction. Though they claim to be open to criticism, their adverse reaction when faced with it often runs counter to their proclaimed inculpability. It is troubling to note that in such circumstances, their behavior can evolve from a moderate and mild disposition to something strangely disconcerting and flabbergasting. After the coffee has been finished, the hillbilly can use a dessert and continue to read the crap I have typed up. The urge to revert back to their own prejudices often compounds the situation. This unjustified behavior and attitude usually is accompanied by an urge to lash out to associate actions, usually negative, towards an individual or group of people.

To better establish how emotions figure into discrimination and prejudice, it is needed to determine how people sort sociocultural groups into categories and what emotions those groupings bring forth. Commonly, it is noted found that people tend to rate groups along two primary dimensions: warmth, or whether the group is friendly, trustworthy or sincere; and competence, or whether the group is skillful and capable. In turn, these ratings are associated with one of four emotions: disgust, pity, pride and envy.

This long post applies on both sides. You don't like being put in a box and so you challenge the other and lash out. You also forget that you have put the other side in a box and they can also challenge you.

Putting people in boxes because of difference in perception and values is natural.

 

[ThinkLogically]

Calm down, he is already being monitored by the Aussie security apparatus long while back, dumb clumsy idiot that he is on twitter. He will learn only later when the time is right, why its very useful to think and try practice one iota of common sense temperance....but its just not available to lost causes I suppose.

So this is his desperate outlet to feel relevant. Cling to something, instigate something in an echo chamber so he can get a tiny little rush again etc etc.



Look here, most of the varying stripes of emigres (incl myself) know nothing of what its like to live in the thick of it in UP/Bihar etc where there is the most intense visceral churn.

Add to it extra more if they are from state/sensibility like south India that reduces the potential water mark for depth-exploration even more.

They will generally speak in lofty theoretical platitudes that simply carry little to no relevance (or even deep context of why, where, what and how they formed in history in first place)....and they take a giant emotional (but doomed, artificial) stride to make it wholly relevant....and then go to preaching mode depending on the audience or time/personal needs available....or void that needs bridging...whatever.

I (speaking only for myself) have invested some time to listen to those that have come from the ground situation...but most do not do that...or even attempt it....and rely on every vanilla media ivory tower narrative exclusively that filters neatly through the emotional interior....rather than try move an iota outside of that or what real world perspectives and angst are.....that need respect and appreciation for real world solutions.

Keeping that stuff pristine and unadulterated by any pragmatic sense/scope is afterall the first step to getting a rush in virtue signalling (the end goal/depdendency for most of these types worldwide)...and you can see those that similarly thrive on their victimization complex (as be all end all) rush to give their approval (when they are not busy playing approval brigade dynamics with far far worse enemies to them in the real proven world...such is the emotional delusion). Its peanut butter and jelly match made in psychological heaven....each perfectly feeds off and sustains the other.

I have made my peace with this delusional permanence in the human condition and psyche at large.

The names and issues change a bit from place to place, but little else does.

They live in the US so much of the time....and you can see it all play out there too... livestreamed even.

But I guess excuse that there and indulge whatever else here....and flip it around as you need to when you want to. Like giving a layman a rubiks cube to solve, it can seem engaging and fun even if you have no idea how to solve it.

Bro, you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

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To be honest, African American can apply for any jobs without being discriminated. this is not true in India for not only muslim but anyone who is not a BJP worshiper.