Indian investments in Iran and what it means for us?

[WAJsal]

What a crazy thoughts you have Gwadar port is more geo political just because it get connected with China ? What you think world ends and starts with Pakistan and China ? Chahabahar port will open up new trade route to the central asian countries which are mineral rich . And India will have new business to do and so does all central asian countries too . That's a lot of trade gonna take place through Iran . You keep braging yourself but truth is very different and difficult to digest . May be 40 billion is a huge money for your economy but by the same time other countries will get more than you can imagine so the status quo won't change at all. Chinese will drain you to pulp for the money you borrowed . There will he times when you don't want to start a war with India unnecessarily but you will do it due to the pressure from China lol

Pakistan is already trading with Central Asia and is connected. Just telling some member's who might not know. Plus China is not the only one investing in Gwadar.

 

[Indian 71]

There is a limit to brotherhood. We considered Iran and did not send military to help Saudi. But iran is not taking us into consideration.

My friend this world scenario, you need to take any move to understand you mind not Heart.

 

[WAJsal]

India is in unique position with good relations with both Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Won't last much longer. Pinch in Israel too. India will have to choose one path. You know and i know neutral gear isn't going to work on this. (My views)
your thoughts.

 

[itachiii]

Personally Iam in favour of India Pakistan Trade Ties....Last night i was watching a Tv-Programme, Insisting on the fact... Sind is enjoying Karachi Port, Balouchistan is enjoying Iran, KPK is enjoying Afghanistan trade route....then why 60% of Pakistani Punjab is not enjoying Trade ties with India....its a natural trade border b/t 2 countries...he also explains a fact....many close Border cities of India have imminent Karachi Port to go outside then Mumbai
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I've very strong Conviction and you as a sane Poster will accede me on this....India as a Bigger Country must be Generous towards its smaller neighbours, Instead of matching Ego Score breakeven in every Incident

we provided you MFN status long back... pak is yet to make a call on it.. so don't blame us...

Won't last much longer. Pinch in Israel too. India will have to choose one path. You know and i know neutral gear isn't going to work on this. (My views)
your thoughts.

during the cold war india was a close defence partner with russia, while having USA as the largest trading partner.. if we could sail through those troubled waters, we would easily stay afloat through the ruptures that we will be seeing in the coming future..

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

You can do whatever you want. You can act like saudi slaves as much as you like and be used as cannon fodders. Just don't come to use telling us what we must do or not do. You're in no position to do that. Your country needs to concentrate on its economy and don't spend 24/7 thinking about India. This obsession is not healthy.

But anyway, whether you continue your issues with India is frankly of no interest to me or Iran as a whole. But I will tell you this again, don't ever tell Iran what it should do again. And your veiled threats are laughable. You cannot do anything which can harm Iran. Being a slave to the arabs has harmed your own country more than anyone else. The people in your country with this slave mentality needs to be dealt with. They're taking your country's prosperity hostage.

Am goddamn sure if god forbid Pakistan opens war front against Iran then India won't be sitting quite 1) our investment should be secured 2) Our strategic asserts should secured 3) Iran is our ancient friend we will open up another massive ripple fire all along LOC and Azad Kashmir .

Our Pakistan friends must understand India has friendship with many countries with diverse range of belief. Our goal is to develop and raise together for sake of our people .If any one gets attacked unnecessarily we won't be sitting quite like in the past . The recent developments between India and Iran is very positive .There are lots taken place behind the doors . Pakistan should start improving it's economy than plotting suicide bombers to stops others from developing

 

[WAJsal]

during the cold war india was a close defence partner with russia, while having USA as the largest trading partner.. if we could sail through those troubled waters, we would easily stay afloat through the ruptures that we will be seeing in the coming future..

Different situation altogether.

Am goddamn sure if god forbid Pakistan opens war front against Iran then India won't be sitting quite 1) our investment should be secured 2) Our strategic asserts should secured 3) Iran is our ancient friend we will open up another massive ripple fire all along LOC and *** .

We have good relation's with Iran why would we want to launch an attack on Iran. Iran-Pakistan pipeline is very important to us. Makes no sense. Pakistan will never attack Iran, two brotherly nations. Pakistan views Iran favorably the most in the world.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Interesting attitude. Both Iran and Pakistan need each other, period. Not sure where these arrogant posts are being written. If Iran doesn't respect Pakistan's situation with India (doesn't mean she has to suspend trade, I am referring to the national security related stuff), then Pakistan will play the Arab card. You need to realize, you may gave Shiite supporters but you can't be effing with everyone else. I can tell you the drastic impact of sanctions as of today. So this superman attitude looks and sounds great but remember.....superman is a fiction character!! Reality is different.

Next, Pakistan needs Iran for energy for about next seven years. Then projections are, she'll be all set.

Can you educate us why Iran need Pakistan so badly than Pakistan need Iran ?

 

[jaydee]

Go ahead and get involved in Yemen, let's see what happens. Your saudi friends with their much more powerful air-force cannot do anything to stop Houthi advancement, what can Pakistan with its much weaker airforce accomplish? Your involvement would make no difference to reality on the ground. The saudis wanted to use Pakistanis as cannon fodders. They wanted to send you into Yemen via ground, if that happened, your soldiers would have been send back home in body bags. Sorry, but Houthis would have owned you This is why Pakistan did not go into Yemen.


As I said, Iran does not give the slightest bit of care what you think. Your problem with India is your problem.This is a harsh reality for you, but India is a much more powerful economy and can offer Iran alot more. Pakistan should become a more powerful economy and then Iran-Pakistan can have great cooperation. However, even then, Iran would not stop its economical cooperation with India over Pakistan.


Your nuclear arsenal is not helping your economy nor is it helping your security situation, don't forget you're busy fighting terrorists within your own borders. The west snipped Iran's balls? The reality is, Iran is a much more successful player in region, by far, compared to Pakistan. Your nuclear arsenal are not worth as much as you think as your economy and security is a mess. In any case, not long in the future, Iran will have industrial scale nuclear enrichment capability (enough capability for an arsenal of nukes) and will be an economical power. Meanwhile you'll be bragging about your American and Chinese fighter jets whilst your economy is in shambles. Your nuclear bombs are more worthless than you care to admit.

If not for the natural resources what good would your economy be.
Mate remain level headed. Pakistan wishes Iran all the best coz it is in Pakistan's interest. The next century belongs to this region. Iran, Pakistan, Russia and China should have synergistic relationship both economically as well as militarily. And Iran along with Sco can be a counter weight to Nato. Don't underestimate Pakistan. The same small country has buried empires. Don't you appreciate the Pakistani neutral stance on Yemen. They did it coz they want good relationship with you otherwise when America along with Nato can be defeated by Pakistan in Afghanistan then houthis will fall like a pack of cards. Did you forget what the Russian general once said.IF WE HAD WARRIORS LIKE PAKISTAN ARMY AND OUR OWN MILITARY STRENGTH THEN WE WILL CONQUER THE WHOLE WORLD. Luckily policy makers of Iran are much miser and don't show unwanted bravado like many friends do here . Don't you think if Iran, Pakistan, China and Russia join hands, which will happen due to geo strategic changes in the region,this region will become the epicentre of the world both economically aswell as militarily.pakistan respects the Iranian nation .
Don't you think that this region will be on Collison course with west due to their agenda regarding Asia

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Different situation altogether.

We have good relation's with Iran why would we want to launch an attack on Iran. Iran-Pakistan pipeline is very important to us. Makes no sense. Pakistan will never attack Iran, two brotherly nations. Pakistan views Iran favorably the most in the world.

From where you drawing these terms like brotherly nations and ally ? For godsake you don't have multi dimensions to your foreign policy . You are more tilted towards Arabs than that of Iran Asia or Israel !!!

There is a limit to brotherhood. We considered Iran and did not send military to help Saudi. But iran is not taking us into consideration.

You dint go to work as hitman for saudis not because for Iran brotherhood but due fear of more violence between Shia and sunny inside Pakistan and Pakistan army .

 

[WAJsal]

From where you drawing these terms like brotherly nations and ally ? For godsake you don't have multi dimensions to your foreign policy . You are more tilted towards Arabs than that of Iran Asia or Israel !!!

You amaze me. Pakistanis view Iran most favorably in the world. Why would we want to attack Iran. Read the OP in this thread. Will help you with the history. Iran and Pakistan- Prospects of future relations after the nuke deal
Iran view's Pakistan favorably and feeling is mutual. Did you really think Iran hated us and we hated them back. LOL
@Daneshmand , will help.

 

[Dash]

Won't last much longer. Pinch in Israel too. India will have to choose one path. You know and i know neutral gear isn't going to work on this. (My views)
your thoughts.

I'm not sure of your analysis of indo-israeli ties. But our ties with all of them especially middle east is pragmatic and I see another pragmatic country Iran.

Non issue.

 

[Bang Galore]

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I've very strong Conviction and you as a sane Poster will accede me on this....India as a Bigger Country must be Generous towards its smaller neighbours, Instead of matching Ego Score breakeven in every Incident

Depends on the specifics of where the concession is sought. On trade issues, I would tend to agree. On matters of territory, the room for compromise is very limited. However, there is little to disagree with the sentiments expressed in your post. The point should be to be able to disagree without being disagreeable.

 

[WAJsal]

I'm not sure of your analysis of indo-israeli ties. But our ties with all of them especially middle east is pragmatic and I see another pragmatic country Iran.

Non issue.

My views. With time problems will grow. Have a nice day.

 

[B+ Dracula]

After these long years you still have a doubt why India is not trading with Pakistan ? Your civilian government has the same view of yours for many decades now but see what happened even at recent UFA submit ? And what happening at our borders . Unnecessary cease fire violation by PA stop only when NSA Doval strong statement and deadline before massive retaliation from I A . You may say or have different story to tell as you be live . But for prosperous Pakistan civilian government should take control over PA

I can claim similar type of Reaction from your side...with supporting Newspaper Links....but that will further lead to another Pandora box discussion of who is bigger Evil...I think we should be succinct in our discussion

we provided you MFN status long back... pak is yet to make a call on it.. so don't blame us...

Dear, my friend.....I think you're not taking many other factors into the account......Iam unable to find Video of Gen Musharraf to backup my claim in which he is explaining how Indians dealt with Pakistani Traders, they stop Laden Trucks at border and asked them to shift all Goods to Indian Truck bcoz Pak Trucks are not allowed to wander in Indian Cities, then they were forced to hire Indian Masons to Unload Pak Truck to shift all goods one by one (infront of Indian sentry guards).
I understand you still deny height of disrespect Pakistani traders received at the hands of Border Guards, but that was the main cause Pakistani trader Union unanimously agreed to evade future dealing with india
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There is a famous saying in Urdu... (Evil lies in Detail)
Just giving MFN status is not enough ....details of MFN clauses matters

Irrelevant to India. Gwadar is of no use to us. Chabahar is. For Pakistan, the only downside is loss of veto over Indian trade to Afghanistan & beyond.

No Loss of Veto....India already have access to Russia/Central Asia by Sea since the Universe came into being...We're debating on Cheapest Hassle-free trade Route

 

[Arya Desa]

This aid is although over past 66 years, recent data suggests that Pakistan is the second highest recipient of US aid, after Afghanistan.

1946 to 2012 :-
India - $ 65.1
Pakistan - $44.4

Considering the size and population of both the countries, Pakistan got more aid per capita.



More corruption in Pakistan than India
2014 Corruption Perceptions Index -- Results




More rapes per 100,000 person in Pakistan than India
Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although percentage of poverty is same, while poverty in India is decreasing, in Pakistan its on rise.



Look at yourself first idiot. Pakistan is below India in HDI
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by inequality-adjusted HDI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Where-to-be-born Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol people like you in Pakistan sit in air conditioner at home with eyes close thinking that if few people around me are fine, then the whole country is fine.

Your comparison of people is wrong. You compare rich Pakistani with average Indian.

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