Indian investments in Iran and what it means for us?

[Force-India]

India is the highest recipient of U.S economic aid

This aid is although over past 66 years, recent data suggests that Pakistan is the second highest recipient of US aid, after Afghanistan.

1946 to 2012 :-
India - $ 65.1
Pakistan - $44.4

Considering the size and population of both the countries, Pakistan got more aid per capita.

corruption

More corruption in Pakistan than India
2014 Corruption Perceptions Index -- Results

rape

More rapes per 100,000 person in Pakistan than India
Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

growing slums

List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although percentage of poverty is same, while poverty in India is decreasing, in Pakistan its on rise.

In South Asia its economy and overall human development performance is worse than a tiny Island like Sri Lanka so spare me the 'supa duper power' qualities.

Look at yourself first idiot. Pakistan is below India in HDI
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by inequality-adjusted HDI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pakistan is not a perfect country either but its widely acknowledged that its people live in far better quality of life.

Where-to-be-born Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol people like you in Pakistan sit in air conditioner at home with eyes close thinking that if few people around me are fine, then the whole country is fine.

Your comparison of people is wrong. You compare rich Pakistani with average Indian.

 

[Providence]

The houthis are taking a hammering, if Pakistan got involved they would be hammered even harder

If the Saudis can give the right incentive should Pakistan simply accept because it makes economic sense

Neither the Saudis nor the Americans have forgotten about you and they will be eager to cut you down to size, if the right offer comes away should we simply support their anti iran plan because it makes economic sense

You dont want to get involved in Pakistan and india pissing contest but here you are asking to be showered on

India is our mortal enemy and iran needs to take note of this if it in turn would want Pakistan not to act against iran supporting the Saudis or yanks



Against all odds Pakistan has survived, 200 nuclear weapons ensures that any enemy will know the consequences of attacking us

You joke about the JF17 but its a working fighter jet rather than the joke paper mache model you call a fighter jet


Pakistans economy has had to survive wars and insecurity without the protection of oil money
it is on the verge of taking off but either way you will force Pakistan to act to safeguard our interests and to counter india

You are getting in the middle of something that you dont want to be in the middle of

So you are threatening iran on what basis again ? That in distant future IF an alliance ever happens against iran you guys will finger them ?

Wow ! Is this blackmail or your version of brotherhood ?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

This aid is although over past 66 years, recent data suggests that Pakistan is the second highest recipient of US aid, after Afghanistan.

1946 to 2012 :-
India - $ 65.1
Pakistan - $44.4

Considering the size and population of both the countries, Pakistan got more aid per capita.



More corruption in Pakistan than India
2014 Corruption Perceptions Index -- Results




More rapes per 100,000 person in Pakistan than India
Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although percentage of poverty is same, while poverty in India is decreasing, in Pakistan its on rise.



Look at yourself first idiot. Pakistan is below India in HDI
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by inequality-adjusted HDI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Where-to-be-born Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol people like you in Pakistan sit in air conditioner at home with eyes close thinking that if few people around me are fine, then the whole country is fine.

Your comparison of people is wrong. You compare rich Pakistani with average Indian.

The moment you quoted Wikipedia. I rest my case while replying you adequately.

 

[PatriotLover]

So you are threatening iran on what basis again ? That in distant future IF an alliance ever happens against iran you guys will finger them ?

Wow ! Is this blackmail or your version of brotherhood ?

There is a limit to brotherhood. We considered Iran and did not send military to help Saudi. But iran is not taking us into consideration.

 

[Paranoid Android]

The moment you quoted Wikipedia. I rest my case while replying you adequately.

If you are intelligent enough you would get that it was provided index value, provided by different org,not Wikipedia & every news needs not to be posted on Dawn to make you believe..

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

If you are intelligent enough you would get that it was provided index value provided by different org,not Wikipedia & every news needs not to be posted on Dawn to make you believe..

Dude, even a 10 yrs old kid can edit the text there. Enough said

 

[Providence]

There is a limit to brotherhood. We considered Iran and did not send military to help Saudi. But iran is not taking us into consideration.

I personally don't have ANY idea about pak-iran history and stuff but I highly doubt you guys didn't go because you guys care about iran. It was the internal security situation in pakistan which played the overwhelming factor I guess.

 

[Force-India]

The moment you quoted Wikipedia. I rest my case while replying you adequately.

Lol

Dude, even a 10 yrs old kid can edit the text there. Enough said

Your edit will be rolled back without source.

 

[Paranoid Android]

Dude, even a 10 yrs old kid can edit the text there. Enough said

When news or facts contradict you or down you,you people seem to become younger..

 

[Agent Smith]

With most due respect you cannot compare chabhar with gwadar because gwadar is geo politically very important to everyone chabhar with its own right too but what gwadar offers i dont think so chabar do

Gwadar connects china directly and with more time will be saved with chabar it is iran who only benefit more not even india benefit because it dont have any road links to india

India is doing it only in jelosy for gwadar

Gwadar port by road with most ease connects to china afghanistn russia etc with chabar more time needs to sends goods to destination when china afghanis have pirt which can save money and time i dont think it will be impact on us

I don't see much difference, when Chahbahar will become operational your gwadar will lose its relevance and your little influence in Afghanistan will end for good and then India and Iran will be the only major players in Afghanistan.

Ps. Will you Pakistani's not get into measuring up against the Ganga dwellers please. The Indian's can only compare with a small country like Pakistan to feel good. They need to do that to salve their pride which gets a proper pounding from country their size - the Chinese.

With all due respect Mr. consultant sir, either you have a lot of misgivings about Indians or you are deliberately pretending to be an ignorant fool for the sake of badmouthing Indians. First of all we can never think of comparing ourselves with a country such as yours. it will only bring insult to us. secondly, you may think that we are jealous of the chinese but the fact is we respect them for what they have accomplished, the enmity between us is other thing. Thirdly, we never boast of being a superpower for we are still a poor developing nation of third world and we know our ground realities. So no matter how much you pakistani members rant on this forum, events will take their course irrespective. what will be, will be.

 

[nForce]

With most due respect you cannot compare chabhar with gwadar because gwadar is geo politically very important to everyone chabhar with its own right too but what gwadar offers i dont think so chabar do

Gwadar connects china directly and with more time will be saved with chabar it is iran who only benefit more not even india benefit because it dont have any road links to india

India is doing it only in jelosy for gwadar

Gwadar port by road with most ease connects to china afghanistn russia etc with chabar more time needs to sends goods to destination when china afghanis have pirt which can save money and time i dont think it will be impact on us

Iran can have easy access to the World with the Chabahar port.
India can have easy access to Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian countries through it.
Iran benefits the most, followed by Afghanistan.

India can't build a city... Just look at their own cities to see how well they are in industrial, economy and business areas.

India is building 100 'smart cities' across the country

One thing for sure. I'm going top buy properties there.

 

[nForce]

Interesting attitude. Both Iran and Pakistan need each other, period. Not sure where these arrogant posts are being written. If Iran doesn't respect Pakistan's situation with India (doesn't mean she has to suspend trade, I am referring to the national security related stuff), then Pakistan will play the Arab card. You need to realize, you may gave Shiite supporters but you can't be effing with everyone else. I can tell you the drastic impact of sanctions as of today. So this superman attitude looks and sounds great but remember.....superman is a fiction character!! Reality is different.

Next, Pakistan needs Iran for energy for about next seven years. Then projections are, she'll be all set.

That is all fine. But Pakistan has to be a regional power with enough credibility and potential to be taken seriously first.
What does Iran loose by not recognizing Pakistan's plight ? Nothing ?
What does it gain by doing so ? Nothing ?
So why ?
What can you do, if Iran and India go ahead with economic cooperation ? Send some terrorist there too ?

 

[B+ Dracula]

With Respect, Iam really upset after following some of my comrades posts posing hostility towards Iran, Its really disgusting, my dear country fellows Let it be clear...Romans are allowed to do in ROME whatever they like...its none of our business
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Its impossible to envisage...all of sudden Iranians finds themselves involved in middle of same ill-will towards India ..as we are enjoying Cat's playing since decades...matter of fact is ...If we wont able to convince Arab Alliance to cutoff all trade ties with india and stop Inflows of immigrants from india...then on what FACE-VALUE...we're here dictating Iranians to do what we want??? its called demise of sanity
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My dear country fellows, Good news is that we're standing on Higher Moral Ground, We can still act like "RAQEEB" in love affair of Iran-India ...why! bcoz geographically we're in the middle of both love PARAGONS
(now Iam serious)
a) Iran-Pak gaspipeline is under construction, that cant be said about Iran-India.....Our petrolium minister have reiterated its completion within 2 years (inshallah)...and he also said that....INDIA is now OUT from this project...if they want to mature the deal again...they've to lay separate net of Pipelines (bcoz they're late)
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b) In future...Iranians Oil export to much bigger China will act as a balancing catalyst in the region
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c) We can offer same trade deal to Iran like we did to Afghanistan. Like Afghans are exporting their goods to INDIA at Wahgah border & they return AF Laden with Pakistani Goods

e) According to "Times of India"...India-Russia connectivity via Iran is 30% Lesser and 40% cheaper then current route, ...means what??....It means Pakistan still holds the Trump Card....After accumulating all the costs of 2 Ports(Mumbai & Chahbahar), and taking all the hassle of traveling with (high Insurance cost) still they wont beat Original SILK ROUTE
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Maray Humwatnoo ! Our Motif Policy in the region is to outsmart Indian Aggression in Kashmir NOT barring them to have Trade Activities ......India is connected to Russia,Iran (via Sea).. whether we like it or not they are connected .Our Objective is to keep India at Par in Central Asia, Iran, Russia until they loose luster of its Cheaper Goods, when a real trade war take place in Central Asia under the nose of big players, "Indian Grossery Store" will loose its Cutting Edge.

 

[Super Falcon]

I don't see much difference, when Chahbahar will become operational your gwadar will lose its relevance and your little influence in Afghanistan will end for good and then India and Iran will be the only major players in Afghanistan.



With all due respect Mr. consultant sir, either you have a lot of misgivings about Indians or you are deliberately pretending to be an ignorant fool for the sake of badmouthing Indians. First of all we can never think of comparing ourselves with a country such as yours. it will only bring insult to us. secondly, you may think that we are jealous of the chinese but the fact is we respect them for what they have accomplished, the enmity between us is other thing. Thirdly, we never boast of being a superpower for we are still a poor developing nation of third world and we know our ground realities. So no matter how much you pakistani members rant on this forum, events will take their course irrespective. what will be, will be.

There is lot of difference cant u see left of chabhar is nothing and chabhar is only for afghanistan afghanis neither exports just imports and most of population is poor compare to pak no items they buy more gwadar is even close to middle east most of gulf countries prefer gwadar port than irani chabgar who they have prob and dont be too happy iran and afghan are muslim any time they throw u out and uf not israel will pressurize u to make iran ecnonical strong so one way or other u are looser just afghanistan u count gwadar connects entire world

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

India can't build a city... Just look at their own cities to see how well they are in industrial, economy and business areas.

Exactly!

Indians cannot do anything..............Hence Pakistanis should stop complaining about Indo-Iranian ties.