Indian forces on toes at forward bases

[Zibago]

After 370 they will implement Israel style hindu colonies

 

[khansaheeb]

Has everyone lost their mind? Talking of total destruction and annihilation of another country. What are you? Muslim? Pakistani? Or 5 year old, emo kids?

Have some God Damn sense before making such statements. Be sensible and be smart, this is the advantage that Pakistan has over it's enemy. Not childish remarks about wiping out india. If you all would cool your heads, then you'd realize that we do not need to do anything but protect our country from our borders. India wants to provoke Pakistan into a hot war. Their desperation hinges on Pakistan responding with war. Instead we ought to show complete

No we haven't lost our minds but are being realists. No matter how we behave or cool we are India will do what it wants like a bully in the school playground, until they get a bloody nose and realise what a big mistake they made tangling with the wrong guy. Pakistan will plan for all eventualities but we know these idol worshiping daal eating Indian soldiers have a very short endurance and always run from battle. The indication so far is until the demise of the BJP this sort of aggressive behaviour from the Hindus will be maintained until there is a brutal war and their appetite is diminished after defeat.

 

[Armchair]

@TheTallGuy you warned us of this and that we didn't have enough time.

This time no mercy I hope.
No "but we didn't expect them to bring boffors or use air force"
And no "but we didn't expect them to attack on the international border"
And no changing of commands in the middle of the battle.

If any of this is done this time around, it should be considered as treason.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Never should've been opened in the first place.

Close the airspace immediately!!!

 

[Armchair]

For attacking Pakistani civilians with cluster munitions, which is a Geneva Convention violation, Pakistan should conduct surgical strikes against all nearby Indian concentration of troups and artillery units. Let us hit hard and hit first.

If the IAF interferes, so much the worse for them. We can do this without getting BMs involved on our part.

 

[crankthatskunk]

There is an expression in the english language, "there is more than one way to skin a cat." Ever heard of it?

Use of military power is exercized by those who have to compensate for something seriously lacking in them. India is setting a fine example of that. But it doesn't mean we follow them into the same pigsty they are rolling in. Can you not see how absurdly desperate they are? Is it not clearly visible that they have to resort to bombings, this time without having staged a false flag?

I would like to take a leaf out of Air Combat pilot's book "you train, and train and hone in your skills and when you find yourself locked in combat with the enemy, you make sure you follow your training and employ your skills ... victory is yours, when the enemy makes the mistake and he will make the mistake so long as you follow your training and employ your tactics skillfully and when the enemy makes a mistake, you pounce them."

India isn't just making mistakes, it is now committing outright blunders! This is where Pakistan's leadership should employ it's tactics and NOT get dragged into a conflict by India. Instead now is the time for Pakistan to employ a full blown diplomatic offensive on a global scale. Use that lobbying firm Pakistan has hired to sound the alarm bells on India in the US Congress. Use your powerful ally (China) to call a unilateral UN assembly so that Pakistan can bring all of the countries on that forum and show the world what India is doing. Now is the time to befittingly decimate India with ripple fired Diplomatic AMRAAMs. And I guarantee you, Indian leadership would not only squirm like a bunch weasels, they will be squeeling like a bunch of swines that being readied for slaughter. Particularly when the United Nations takes action against them. Forcing Europe, America and Russian Federation to impose punitive measure on Indian atrocities in Kashmir.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, use that brilliant brain of yours (Pakistanis)!!

Now that you have given your long response, it is my duty to give my reply.
Until now Pakistan had been responding diplomatically and in many cases not even diplomatically if we look at the last 10 years of crooks' administrations. Did it deterred India!!

Nope, its excesses have become more spectacular. Like I and many more wrote, if you give evil a chance it would become more powerful and a bigger headache in the future. That's what India has become.

Secondly you are missing one jigsaw of the puzzle, the Israeli factor and its' influence on India, viz a viz Palestine problem and the solutions applied by Israel.

Israel had urged and it seems have succeeded to convince India to apply the same tactics. Hence we are seeing the huge build up of the military at the moment, soon it would result in the same atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians including changing the ethnic mix of Kashmir, i.e. ethnic cleansing. And settlements like solutions to change the demographics of Kashmir.

The whole world has done nothing against Israel, do you seriously think they are going to do anything against India!!

Now look at the current scenario. First India pressurised Pakistan through USA and with the hanging sword of FATF to ban Hafiz Saeed outfit and arrest him. That was to quell any voices for the Kashmiris to rise within Pakistan, i.e. agitations, rallies etc.

The Indians are moving in Kashmir at a time when Afghan's problem is nearing its end and a comprehensive settlement is in sight, in which Pakistan is taking active part to facilitate USA to extricate itself from the Afghan dilemma, to put it in President Trump's words.

The timing by Indians is very peculiar.

In the past we have always allowed India the elbow room. Our inaction, ignoring the issues etc. has brought us to this point where in the words of Gillani "India is planning the worst Genocide of human history".

Do you seriously want Pakistan to sit quietly and let India do it!!! You are out of your filliping mind my friend.

Diplomatic efforts have already started but I don't think either they are going to do anything under current scenario. You think Indians are going to pay any heed to it!!

Lets looks at it this way, the Russians have even refused to supply "guns" to Pakistan after pressure put by India.
They don't want to lose S 400s and other expensive orders and possibly orders for more fighter jets. Everyone is pitching their hardware to India to make billions. In such scenarios you can try all you want, it wouldn't make an iota of a difference.

As for isolation and pressure on Modi and other Indian leaders, remember the fact that this criminal killer was responsible for over 4000 Muslims deaths. That fact should be enough to open your eyes, if nothing else does.

 

[khansaheeb]

Now that you have given your long response, it is my duty to give my reply.
Until now Pakistan had been responding diplomatically and in many cases not even diplomatically if we look at the last 10 years of crooks' administrations. Did it deterred India!!

Nope, its excesses have become more spectacular. Like I and many more wrote, if you give evil a chance it would become more powerful and a bigger headache in the future. That's what India has become.

Secondly you are missing one jigsaw of the puzzle, the Israeli factor and its' influence on India, viz a viz Palestine problem and the solutions applied by Israel.

Israel had urged and it seems have succeeded to convince India to apply the same tactics. Hence we are seeing the huge build up of the military at the moment, soon it would result in the same atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians including changing the ethnic mix of Kashmir, i.e. ethnic cleansing. And settlements like solutions to change the demographics of Kashmir.

The whole world has done nothing against Israel, do you seriously think they are going to do anything against India!!

Now look at the current scenario. First India pressurised Pakistan through USA and with the hanging sword of FATF to ban Hafiz Saeed outfit and arrest him. That was to quell any voices for the Kashmiris to rise within Pakistan, i.e. agitations, rallies etc.

The Indians are moving in Kashmir at a time when Afghan's problem is nearing its end and a comprehensive settlement is in sight, in which Pakistan is taking active part to facilitate USA to extricate itself from the Afghan dilemma, to put it in President Trump's words.

The timing by Indians is very peculiar.

In the past we have always allowed India the elbow room. Our inaction, ignoring the issues etc. has brought us to this point where in the words of Gillani "India is planning the worst Genocide of human history".

Do you seriously want Pakistan to sit quietly and let India do it!!! You are out of your filliping mind my friend.

Diplomatic efforts have already started but I don't think either they are going to do anything under current scenario. You think Indians are going to pay any heed to it!!

Lets looks at it this way, the Russians have even refused to supply "guns" to Pakistan after pressure put by India.
They don't want to lose S 400s and other expensive orders and possibly orders for more fighter jets. Everyone is pitching their hardware to India to make billions. In such scenarios you can try all you want, it wouldn't make an iota of a difference.

As for isolation and pressure on Modi and other Indian leaders, remember the fact that this criminal killer was responsible for over 4000 Muslims deaths. That fact should be enough to open your eyes, if nothing else does.

Very much like the rise of Nazi Germany, appeasement and diplomacy did not work. They built their military machine and thought they were invincible, but Allah has his ways.

 

[Armchair]

Did a diplomatic offensive help the Rohingya refugees?
Did a diplomatic offensive save Bonsian Muslims?
How hare-brained does one need to be to shut out the plees of the Kashmiris of an impending ethnic cleansing and write garbage about "dipomatic amraams"

 

[Vortex]

Kashmiris brothers and sisters should (have ?) declare(ed) independence from India. And later should have choose if they want be totally independent or integrated with Pakistan or India.

I, as many others, was expecting indians following israeli path... Kashmiris should not follow Palestinians path.

If I’m not mistaken Palestinians have been told by israelis to not declare their independent state. And we are watching silently where Palestinians are today.


I’m not living there so my worlds are only words, it’s easy to say this or that, but what could be done today ?

 

[Tomahawk]

Phir thumahara kya hoga kaalia??

Worry about yourself; you definitely will get a bloody face (kala moun in our language).
A picture speaks a thousand words.
Also notice the big guy on Abhinandan's back.

 

[NA71]

The events of Pulwama incident, 26/2 strike, and latest revoking of 35A law, all are well-planned moves by Modi and his fanatic advisers like Amet Shah and Divol.


Currently, Pakistan has nothing to offer except condemnation & public rallies.

 

[SecularNationalist]

August 4, 2019

Indian forces on toes at forward bases

ISLAMABAD: Extraordinary movement has been watched on the forward bases of India with Pakistan and in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK) by the Indian Air Force (IAF) this week. Keeping in view the activities Pakistan Air Force (PAF) as well ground forces are alerted to thwart any misadventure.

Highly placed sources told The News on Saturday evening that India has created a situation in IHK where chaos and sense of extreme fear is prevailing. The Hurriyat loving leadership of the IHK has warned the world that India has planned to undertake worst genocide of human history in the IHK. The sources reminded that India has created an atmosphere of fear and its preparedness is similar to the post Pulwama situation in February this year when it carried out naked aggression on Balakot through aerial attacks. The attack couldn’t harm Pakistan in any manner but Pakistan had to close the air space with India immediately after the attack in February to avoid any mishap since proximity of the bases of the two sides with the border. Any error in calculation could cause immeasurable huge loss.

The sources warned that Indians are contemplating to enforce undeclared blockade of Pakistan’s air space and for the nefarious purpose they could venture any act. The developments could force Pakistan to clamp embargo on the use of airspace along-with Indian frontiers like it did in early February this year. Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan has already made it clear that the PAF is fully capable to deal with any threat to country’s air frontiers. Pakistan has sensitised the five permanent members of Security Council of the United Nation (P-5), United Nations headquarters and Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) about the Indian evil designs. All other important world capitals are also being approached through diplomatic channels for briefing about the situation.

The Foreign Secretary Sohail Mahmood has also issued instructions. The Foreign Office that kept burning its midnight oil on Saturday evening like four to five previous nights has prepared communications for the world body. Earlier, the foreign secretary hurriedly called P-5 envoys in Islamabad to brief them regarding the Indian designs and activities.

Pakistan’s high commissioner designate for India Moeenul Haq who is in Islamabad and was supposed to leave for New Delhi last week now will embark upon the journey to the Indian capital on August 16 (Friday). He is busy here in high echelon briefings, the sources added.

All this happened because on 5th August they were going to abolish article 370.They knew the biggest crime they were going to commit against kashmiris since 1948 will bring reaction and yes certainly it will cause a lot of shit storm.

 

[Wrath]

Is it confirmed sir ?

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[Nasr]

Now that you have given your long response, it is my duty to give my reply.
Until now Pakistan had been responding diplomatically and in many cases not even diplomatically if we look at the last 10 years of crooks' administrations. Did it deterred India!!

Nope, its excesses have become more spectacular. Like I and many more wrote, if you give evil a chance it would become more powerful and a bigger headache in the future. That's what India has become.

Secondly you are missing one jigsaw of the puzzle, the Israeli factor and its' influence on India, viz a viz Palestine problem and the solutions applied by Israel.

Israel had urged and it seems have succeeded to convince India to apply the same tactics. Hence we are seeing the huge build up of the military at the moment, soon it would result in the same atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians including changing the ethnic mix of Kashmir, i.e. ethnic cleansing. And settlements like solutions to change the demographics of Kashmir.

The whole world has done nothing against Israel, do you seriously think they are going to do anything against India!!

Now look at the current scenario. First India pressurised Pakistan through USA and with the hanging sword of FATF to ban Hafiz Saeed outfit and arrest him. That was to quell any voices for the Kashmiris to rise within Pakistan, i.e. agitations, rallies etc.

The Indians are moving in Kashmir at a time when Afghan's problem is nearing its end and a comprehensive settlement is in sight, in which Pakistan is taking active part to facilitate USA to extricate itself from the Afghan dilemma, to put it in President Trump's words.

The timing by Indians is very peculiar.

In the past we have always allowed India the elbow room. Our inaction, ignoring the issues etc. has brought us to this point where in the words of Gillani "India is planning the worst Genocide of human history".

Do you seriously want Pakistan to sit quietly and let India do it!!! You are out of your filliping mind my friend.

Diplomatic efforts have already started but I don't think either they are going to do anything under current scenario. You think Indians are going to pay any heed to it!!

Lets looks at it this way, the Russians have even refused to supply "guns" to Pakistan after pressure put by India.
They don't want to lose S 400s and other expensive orders and possibly orders for more fighter jets. Everyone is pitching their hardware to India to make billions. In such scenarios you can try all you want, it wouldn't make an iota of a difference.

As for isolation and pressure on Modi and other Indian leaders, remember the fact that this criminal killer was responsible for over 4000 Muslims deaths. That fact should be enough to open your eyes, if nothing else does.

In time you shall learn that in moments of conflict, the cooler heads attain victory.

 

[araz]

`janab, You should remember that I have always addressed you with "sir, janab" .. I'm not expert in Punjabi though I can speak but mostly my friends normally make fun of me..

But to the main subject. I personally think it is a mixture of desperation and strategic thinking. We should not underestimate the hindutva mindset. We are not dealing with normal rational humans. Brahmins arrogance was subdued by Pakistan on Feb 27 and following weeks brought more humiliation and misery for them..they couldn't reply with air strikes, their missile strikes were foiled and then their subs were thwarted back. Pakistan showed a lot of restraint otherwise we could have sunk two of Gangadesh's submarines and also dispatch their top military leadership to hell when we locked on the targets. I think we settled for too little. We should have done more damage.
However, they are burning in anger and any further weakness/procrastination shown by GoP (military and the political leadership) will be construed by the arrogant and hurt enemy as the perfect opportunity. So if we have reply this time....it should be jaw breaking response without fearing escalation. If the hindu does not why the Momin's are afraid of death? If they escalate to next level, we should do it too and even more and in fact, that will bring this hindutva terrorists to their senses.

Thank you for youer post.I try to be rational in my thinking so could not understand the reasons for this aggressive designs of the Dhotis. The yhave previously always been better prepared than us and their polity is much more matured than ours. So why this sign of desperation? Perhaps KAshmir is really slipping out of their hands.
In my humble opinion the PA response was appropriate and more damage would have forced the Dhotis to respond. We did not want that and probably still dont. However, if push comes to shove our response would be proportionate.
The real game is on the internbational front and this is where we have stepped out of the shadows and are making our mark. The Nawaz abnd Zardari regimes have caused us so much setbacks in addition to the rampant corruption so we have a lot to make up for.
I will again say that the struggle for freedom needs to be projected to the world as indegenous rather than extrenuous which India has so far told the world. This is the only reason they are trying to get us to respond so they can turn this struggle into a Pak inspired one. This is the only reason I think we need to keep out of this for as long as is humanly possible. For the poor kashmiris the short sightedness and inactivity of the 65 war is coming to haunt them.
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