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Indian expats in KSA slam MPs who forced Muslim to break fast

You are referring to very old figures and Infact same old figure is being recycles since last 2-3 years but still Punjabis and Muhjairs form more than half of your country's population, do you have any data for rest of them Saraikis, Sindhis, Pashtuns and Baloch who as per my knowledge still live in extreme poverty and backwardness. Most of the times poverty and backwardness is being referred as the main cause of rising extremism in South Punjab among Saraikis, Sindhi nationalism, Baloch insurgency and TTP's insurgency. Punjab was already prosperous due to agricultural boom due to canal system during British rule. India's literacy rate is now 74% from 2011 census while Pakistan will reach 60% literacy target in 2015.

I'm referring to the latest report issued by the UNDP Human Development Report of 2014 - They are neither Pro-Pakistan nor Anti-India to show us in a better light viz a vie India in terms of poverty nor are they Pro-India or Anti-Pakistan to show us a bad light viz a vie India in terms of literacy, both with respect to their previous year findings !

I don't know of any data collected by a credible body either within or with-out Pakistan on ethnic lines so I can't comment on it !

Nor do I know how to gauge rising ethnic nationalism in Pakistan by any barometer that I know of so I can't comment on that either !

Just as I can't comment whether India's internal issues regarding ethnicity are rising or falling !
 
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I'm referring to the latest report issued by the UNDP Human Development Report of 2014 - They are neither Pro-Pakistan nor Anti-India to show us in a better light viz a vie India in terms of poverty nor are they Pro-India or Anti-Pakistan to show us a bad light viz a vie India in terms of literacy, both with respect to their previous year findings !

I don't know of any data collected by a credible body either within or with-out Pakistan on ethnic lines so I can't comment on it !

Nor do I know how to gauge rising ethnic nationalism in Pakistan by any barometer that I know of so I can't comment on that either !

Just as I can't comment whether India's internal issues regarding ethnicity are rising or falling !

I am reading the same data from the last three years as if the same data is being recycled in 2011,2012, 2013 and now 2014.
 
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'Evidence' usually does that though I find 'rhetoric' to be a poor substitute for that !

Yep, 'evidence' in court of accused itself is rejected with a tag of 'rhetoric'.

However international bodies do back 'rhetoric' but then pakistan tag those bodies as "nobodies".
 
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Most of them were doing the dying just as most of them were the biggest supporters of Pakistan - Anyone with half a brain working could look at the pogroms in North India, the Operation in Hyderabad & the results of the '46 Elections !

Its alright - I don't begrudge Indian Muslims saying that India is their country & dishing dirt at Pakistan as if it were a religious obligation to do so - Fine....God Bless !

Does any one of them remotely thinks that their BS is without any counters ? They know that....we know that but whats the point of engaging in it ?

India can either elevate them to the level of some Messianic people or Crucify the lot of them - Makes no difference to me !

I'm more worried about developments in Pakistan; I'm delighted to see that we've reduced poverty in Pakistan by another 4% since previous year's Human Development Report but at the same time I'm sad that this is still not enough !

Lets concentrate on Pakistan....let them do as they will !


I have the blood of freedom fighters in my veins, i cannot allow any altaf, shakil aur haleem from Bharat to use my nation as a grinding stone to grind their low esteemed, third rate Hindu-stani citizenship against.

Please tell me how long till we stop taking crap from Hindustani Muslim?. Why should a 4th generation Pakistani allow an Indian muslim to behave as if we owe them somehing?

Is it our fault that they are having to get a 'patriot certificate' from the Hindutva elite that rules India?
 
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Yeh Guys.....C'mon man thats the spirit.......

Millions are dying in Hunger & I think the most important thing to discuss is Force Feeding Chapatis........

Way to Go................!!!!

Out I Go...........:crazy_pilot:
The issue was not the religion. The communal color was painted after few days when other parties found out that the guy was Muslim.

The issue was bad food quality.

Our media can stoop to a level that it can start riot for news.

To others,

You cant save your own people from Americans and Afghans and here you are lecturing on India and Indian Muslims. Just mind your own business.
 
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I find it enjoyable when you have to justfiy your existence, your identity, your way of life, and your patriotism to your own fellow countrymen, every day of your life. I find it enjoyable that you have to take cheap shots at Pakistan and the Pakistani people to prove your 'loyalty'.

You are like a wife who has to wake up every day and give a written oath of loyalty to your husband every single day of your life that you won't sleep with another man.

Abul Kalam Azad would be so proud of his product.

Really laboured, this enjoyment. 'A' for effort, 'C-' for relevance.
This is not the post to treasure, to remember @Aeronaut by. There've been better, much better.
 
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The issue was not the religion. The communal color was painted after few days when other parties found out that the guy was Muslim.

The issue was bad food quality.

Our media can stoop to a level that it can start riot for news.


To others,

You cant save your own people from Americans and Afghans and here you are lecturing on India and Indian Muslims. Just mind your own business.

When this incident happened - Pious Muslims killed an Indian in Kuwait for drinking Pepsi during Ramzan. No Secular Party nor the Sickular media utter a word against it, as it's not going to give any benefit in coming Maharashtra elections...

CHAPATI ka Rayeta bana diya Media Trial chala key. In today's incident they are accusing BJP, not the 4000 Muslims who killed Sikhs & burnt their shops... Such secularism is going to make India future Iraq.
 
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Really laboured, this enjoyment. 'A' for effort, 'C-' for relevance.
This is not the post to treasure, to remember @Aeronaut by. There've been better, much better.

All right Joe, i'm gonna calm myself down, solely out of shear respect i have for you. However, please do give a thought to what lead me to write what i wrote above.

I'm someone who's always open to being proven wrong with better logic than my own. Helps me in my self development.

Cheers.
 
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Nice subcontracting. We don't give two hoots about Indian Muslims, they are a herd of losers.

They are the ones who have to justify their loyalty to their Hindu master. We rule ourselves, they are ruled by Hindutvadasi establishment. Contrast couldn't be greater.

Umm, just to take the sub-contracting further, and what would Muslim Indians (not Indian Muslims) do with someone else caring two hoots about them? What difference would it make to anyone? Muslim Indians, Hindu Indians, atheist Indians, the lot? Considering that Muslim Indians are Indians, they are winners or losers depending on whether or not India itself is a winner or a loser.

As for justifying their loyalty to their Hindu masters, that is merely spiteful. Hindu Indians also have to prove their loyalty to their Hindu masters, as do Indians of every style, shape or description. That is, if there is any 'have to' in the picture. Nobody cares much for those self-appointed jerks who police the morals, the views, the rights of other Indians.

But let's move on. It might - just might - strike some readers that it isn't such a big deal that some of us here are ruling themselves in isolation, having got rid of the other religions and flavours very efficiently, whereas others here are ruling themselves in concert with others, ruling themselves while being a minority. It isn't such a big deal: there might even be a case that ruling ourselves in isolation is not an end in itself, ruling ourselves in isolation to our own benefit, and towards our progress and increasing prosperity and happiness might be a more appropriate objective.

Pity there hasn't been much progress reaching that objective.

Learn to behave like a moderator,Mr moderator.

That's not fair.

He has a right to write what he feels, without wearing his moderator (actually administrator) cap, when he is writing as a member. He need not behave in an identical manner in both the roles.
 
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All right Joe, i'm gonna calm myself down, solely out of shear respect i have for you. However, please do give a thought to what lead me to write what i wrote above.

I'm someone who's always open to being proven wrong with better logic than my own. Helps me in my self development.

Cheers.


Try to look at it this way, @Aeronaut: I am among those who were angriest when this incident was first reported, but then found I was swamped by a wave of greater anger among many more people, almost each of whom was not Muslim. It isn't that this incident was glossed over, or ignored.

Further, there was, and is, nothing personal about you in my remarks. There wouldn't be anything personal because of my respect for you.

That should not stop me from standing up for what I think is right.

Lastly, I understand deeply what made you write what you did. If I didn't sincerely believe that you were wrong, I would never have written what I did, in turn. I am willing to talk this one through, without any ill feeling or peevishness at all. Please continue if you wish; you will receive only the most cordial and dispassionate, thought-through responses.
 
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Yep, 'evidence' in court of accused itself is rejected with a tag of 'rhetoric'.

However international bodies do back 'rhetoric' but then pakistan tag those bodies as "nobodies".

That doesn't even make any sense ! :crazy:
 
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@Joe Shearer

Since you are among the handful of PDF folk in the last 6 odd years i've been reading this board let me put forthe a few honest thoughts.

1: I sincerely have zero resentment over this event for it didn't come as a shock to me.

2: This is India's internal matter for which i hold nothing against. As a Pakistani, i have no stake in India or what unfolds there. Its for Indian citizens to take care of.

3: Having made this clear. I do get deeply offended when some Indian Muslim comes and spews venom at my people as if we owe tgem something or we are the REASON behind whatever ill they face in THEIR country.

I genuinely feel that just like i'm willing to mind my own business when it comes to Indian affairs, the Indian Muslims will do the same and stop 'drunk calling' us. However i've run out of luck in this matter as they drag my country in business we have nothing to win or lose from.

I only get involved, when my name is dragged and a low esteemed axe is grinded against my nation.

Peace
 
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I am reading the same data from the last three years as if the same data is being recycled in 2011,2012, 2013 and now 2014.

I don't know where you do your reading from but if you've got some issue with how the people at the UNDP collect & process data - Your more than welcome to try & contact them; I, unfortunately, don't speak for them nor do I compute their figures....I simply use them both that go for Pakistan & those that go against Pakistan !
 
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That doesn't even make any sense ! :crazy:

For the same reason as quoted in my post. :lol:

Jab piya bhaye kotwal to kaahe ka darr. When you yourself become judge of your own crime, everything against you sounds rhetoric.
 
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