Indian Brahmos missle crashes in Mian Channo

[Arsalan345]

Just gonna say my pov on this matter.
1) Ispr was vague about many things. Not naming the projectile or clearing it to be missile or drone. Or was it shot down or not.
2) Now why would India do this?
So, from the pictures here it was brahmos and it also collaborate that it was moving at supersonic speed.
Secondly many fellows here especially @Salza are of view that it was not shoot down or where was our AD. Ispr has said it engaged the missile with standard SOPs and has provided the tracking data so our radars detected it even in Indian territory.
Now, why didnt we shoot it down? Ispr has deliberately not said anything about it shooting down but people from the area said they heard TWO explosions. One can guess that Pakistan didnt want to disclose its capabilities because of military hypersecrecy policies.
Second why would India do this. Two possibilities either failed test or to check our AD. Anybody with mechanical or electrical eng knowledge who has know how of control systems would know that missile stabilization is a one of the most imp task. So if it was a failed test missile guidance system would not have been able to stabilize it to be in air and it should have crashed imediately. The way it followed its trajectory seems to me that it was delibrate.
Now our response can and will only be diplomatic as much as i want our military to react in similar manner we simply cannot as 1. it would escalate and with current global crisis we would seem to be aggressor and 2. we are not 100% sure that it was deliberate. What we can do is study the material which can withstand supersonic speed, engine design etc.

Hello. The trajectory, specially turn on right side, they aren't coincidence. path is pre defined. This isn't a joke. You said we simply can't escalate. We are talking here about Indian cruise missile and not about Indian balloon. have we lost our pride? It's now morning. No response. Silence from India clearly shows that they want minimum attention. They did their job. There is nothing more humiliating than this. Indian cruise missile lands in Pakistan and we asked for Explanation from india? Explanation for what? Changing direction at 40 thousand feet and turning right looks pretty well defined path. Rogue missiles can go berserk but they aren't often intelligent. Time to respond now. No explanation from India can save Pakistani pride. only action can save us.

 

[NA71]

From the information available, my idea is that it is Indian test/trial missile, gone astray, because of some technical fault.

Missile testing not happens near border areas

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

So there is still no response from India yet.
Are they pretending that nothing happens?

I suspect India has provided an explanation and tendered their sincere apology in private to Pakistan's establishment.

 

[Jango]

It’s either a test that’s gone really bad or is a probing effort.

Didn't the quote go something like "Why attribute something to cleverness when it can be explained by stupidity?"

 

[M.AsfandYar]

We the internet warriors and arm chair Generals can melt our keyboards all we want.... Until the press conference the warfare experts on PDF couldn’t even determine if it was a Drone or drop tank or drunk superman had crashed into mother earth.
Now the source of the incident has been revealed by those that matter so let us not wash the soap before hands and just wait to see how this pans out.

Except @JamD bhai did

 

[Gul_Khan_Peshawar]

It is cruising like a missile

Interestingly there is no news about this in Indian media. I could find only one in Indian Express and even that is reported as a 'Pakistani claim'.

Hmmm...

Well, Indian media has a history of hiding their failures at the time of incident and glorifying them as a victory at a later stage. No surprises here!

 

[SIPRA]

Missile testing not happens near border areas

I made my assessment, after taking note of different opinions on this thread; otherwise, I don't know much about armaments. My knowledge in these matters is extremely limited.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Were there any clouds or rain during this time? Modi could have sent the missile under the cover of the clouds to evade detection by the Pakistani radars.

 

[PakistaniFirst]

What's your fetish with shooting the Brahmos? DGISPR clearly mentioned, it was not shot down, It fell down on its own

Interior minister said it was shot down. People on the ground has said two explosions were heared. Ispr has said that it was engaged with standard SOPs. Combine this with Pakistan proven AD system it is hard to believe it was not shot down.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

so this is what we know this far:
guaranteed that it was a brahmos, pics posted by are undeniable.

it deliberately followed close to a well known air corridor used by domestic and intl flights, perhaps thinking that Pakistan won't risk shooting an airliner down by mistake.

it was flying at at least mach 3 when it died.

ISPR has not claimed that it was shot down, but has said that it crashed and was unarmed. both are frankly very unbelievable.

well known media persons have said that it was shot down. interior minister has said that it was shot down.

india is mum, absolutely quiet about this debacle of theirs thus far, they weren't expecting an interception oh sorry, a crash.

Especially, the crash site is such that almost no damage occurred! Last time it was few trees and a crow, and this time it's the wall of a common folk (it needs to be compensated though)!! Too good for the missile to choose its own destiny to be true....

If indeed it is shot down at Pak's choice of time and place then now is the time for India to panic...

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Interior minister said it was shot down. People on the ground has said two explosions were heared. Ispr has said that it was engaged with standard SOPs. Combine this with Pakistan proven AD system it is hard to believe it was not shot down.

It is very obvious that we shot the missile but claiming otherwise to keep the Indians guessing.

 

[SIPRA]

Were there any clouds or rain during this time? Modi could have sent the missile under the cover of the clouds to evade detection by the Pakistani radars.

India is a fortunate country, that a theoretical physicist, of international repute, is its PM. Kudos.

 

[NA71]

a million dollar idea

 

[PakistaniFirst]

Hello. The trajectory, specially turn on right side, they aren't coincidence. path is pre defined. This isn't a joke. You said we simply can't escalate. We are talking here about Indian cruise missile and not about Indian balloon. have we lost our pride? It's now morning. No response. Silence from India clearly shows that they want minimum attention. They did their job. There is nothing more humiliating than this. Indian cruise missile lands in Pakistan and we asked for Explanation from india? Explanation for what? Changing direction at 40 thousand feet and turning right looks pretty well defined path. Rogue missiles can go berserk but they aren't often intelligent. Time to respond now. No explanation from India can save Pakistani pride. only action can save us.

If you read my post i have said that i believe it was deliberate. As anyone with eng background would tell you that rockets are very controlled objects. If their guidance system goes rogue they become unstable and the control system fails to stablize it resulting in wobbling and crashing. But this missile trajectory was not that of a unstable rocket.
Secondly, i said that we can and will react diplomatically. Like you emotional me wants to react with our own missile. But this is no game if we shoot missile it will be deliberate and things would go to all scale war very very fast. Current global situation do not allow us to do that, reasons we would seem to be aggressor if there is any loss of life on indian side. Right now escalation btw India and Pakistan would lead to WW3. So, realistically we can make this a diplomatic hell for India. We can also study the material composition of missile, engine design etc or anything we can salvage. We need to think of a long game instead of pandering to our egos.

 

[A1Kaid]

The missile appears to have been intercepted or malfunctioned on its own and crashed landed. It definitely did not crash reaching its target if it had any set target. Either it was guided and was intercepted, it was not guided and intercepted, or it malfunctioned and crash landed on its side. Missile does appear to be one of the Brahmos variants. I think there are enough pieces intact that it will likely be reverse engineered.