Indian arms imports almost triple China, Pakistan: study

[flankerX]

Ok bro, you can go back to your concentration camp



Dafauq ?

Are you real stupid or just pretending one ?

I guess I am real stupid.... I just cant lie , you also understand that india needs to pay attention to eliminate poverty, rather than buy weapons.

Whats the point here !!!!
China need only a few imports and Pak don't have money to import.
India need imports and have the required money. Thats it


The day Pak gets money you will start buying. Wake up from delusion that you are not buying so you can spend on welfare. You just don't have any money for that

We are not as big as india, we are buying weapons to defend ourselves.. If you stop buying we wont buy, you give our establishment that justification to go for a larger defence budget.
India has no external threat, they should come up with good explanation for all that huge military spending.

 

[Sergi]

We are not as big as india, we are buying weapons to defend ourselves.. If you stop buying we wont buy, you give our establishment that justification to go for a larger defence budget.
India has no external threat, they should come up with good explanation for all that huge military spending.

Seriously ???
Your country attacked India 4 times till date and you call it defence !!!!
You are not as big as India but you still make in Top three weapon importers !!!

And your logic is also applied for India. We need to defend us from China as we are not as big as they are. So its also justified !!!!

 

[Manindra]

People in india are dying of hunger and they are busy in buying weapons .. feed ur population... Real shame for india!!



They are probably buying those weapons from around the globe to kill their own people one day, thats one way of lowering poverty, indian logic :p

Despite many years of public welfare recently more than 50 people died & number is still increasing due to hunger in Sindh which is more than 60 years of India's number.

 

[flankerX]

Despite many years of public welfare recently more than 50 people died & number is still increasing due to hunger in Sindh which is more than 60 years of India's number.

That is no reason why you shouldnt concentrate on your own people plus your stats are wrong son.....

 

[ENRL]

There is another big difference, China's GDP is now $9.3 trillion, and India's GDP is still at $1.7 trillion.

We went into a double-digit growth phase for over three decades, and the result is a bigger GDP, which leads to a larger defence budget.

China can afford to invest a lot more in indigenous industries compared to India, which is why we have even become the 4th largest defence EXPORTER in the world.

It's true, India can buy military tech from a greater variety of sources. But the question is... does that hurt or help India's indigenous defence industries? If you can buy it, where the incentive to make it yourself?

Why has china been buying Russian engines? Why not wait until the WS-XX is ready? China is using it as a means of maintaining readiness and reliability. The other major issue that does not get talked about is the actual performance of equipment. Chinese arms are highly spec'd but actual performance is another story. So it is hard to say/judge china's actual capability. It is likely that the actual capability is much less than what is being projected.

China's double digit growth was largely due to western investment. That's how it became the 'factory'. 4th largest defence exporter - China focuses on low-tech (comparatively) exports. China's customers are generally ones that cannot afford western arms. China has still not cut into the market of high-tech arms.

Yes, China can certainly invest more into R&D, no question. India's issue is simple, it won't pay scientists enough. Scientists make better money outside. India will pay more for ToT thinking that will solve the problem, but it wont.

 

[Vinod2070]

Despite many years of public welfare recently more than 50 people died & number is still increasing due to hunger in Sindh which is more than 60 years of India's number.

Mate this whole insistence on their part for some kind of "parity" with India is just amusing.

They should forget trying to maintain any parity with India on any issues. The only race worth having is the development race. They are an economy that is an order of magnitude smaller, trying to maintain military parity will only destroy the economy and so the military as well in the longer term.

 

[Manindra]

That is no reason why you shouldnt concentrate on your own people plus your stats are wrong son.....

Kindly give right statics Grand Pa...

Mate this whole insistence on their part for some kind of "parity" with India is just amusing.

They should forget trying to maintain any parity with India on any issues. The only race worth having is the development race. They are an economy that is an order of magnitude smaller, trying to maintain military parity will only destroy the economy and so the military as well in the longer term.

Don't need to big explanation but I am amazed to see that they are to secure 5% of total import with their $6 billion puny defence budget despite being robust defence industry

 

[longlong]

China's double digit growth was largely due to western investment. That's how it became the 'factory'. 4th largest defence exporter - China focuses on low-tech (comparatively) exports. China's customers are generally ones that cannot afford western arms. China has still not cut into the market of high-tech arms.
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Don't be fooled by your lazy and corrupted politicians,

1) China's double digit growth largely due to the hard working gov and people;
2) FDI to China is contributed mainly by overseas Chinese, from Hongkong, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.;
3) FDI is not free gift or loan. You can not earn $1 when the investor profited less than $10.
4) There're no good heart nation or organization would like to invest you and make you grow better and faster than themselves.
5) China is not the biggest FDI receiver;
6) If China's happy-than-no-other growth is from western investment, why don't you do it?

Go and take more western investment to enjoy a 3 digit growth.

 

[Amaa'n]

Dont know much about IA but IAF &IN have really been quite enthusiastic about Indigenous platforms-IAF have been Inducting Indian developed SAMs & Radar systems,and helicopters,and is eager to operationalise LCA.The same with the navy-They have really shown interest in Naval LCA,Dhruv & LCH.And in case of shipbuilding save for Vikramaditya & Talwar class ,much of India's newer warships are either designed & made in India-Destroyers,Frigates,Aircraft carriers,Scorpene subs manufactured in India,SSBNs-Again proving authors theory -'Indian military doesn't want Indian made systems' wrong.

If this artcle is referring to Mig 21s,then it is widely known that those airframes are really old,upgraded with modern equipment every time and that has caused much of accidents.

And if the author uses that example to prove India's aircraft manufacturing capability as ,he should also have remembered that even Su 30 MKI is also manufactured in house by HAL.Yes,I would say manufactured because even the AL 31 FP turbofan is manufactured here.And much of Indian Airforce aircraft is manufactured in India-Even MMRCA-Rafale would be manufactured in India.


Do you realize these now?

You are overlooking the point in the article I posted above - one of the reasons for not prefering to buy in house product is not the capability or the Quality control but the Price tag that comes with it, the corruption, the willingness, the capability to produce them in large numbers ; here read this

“I don’t think there’s another country in the world that has tried as hard as India to make weapons and failed as thoroughly,” said Pieter D. Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which studies global security.
Mr. Wezeman said he was skeptical that India’s new products would change that history, saying that its fighters, tanks and guns were “of questionable quality.”

India’s main problem as an arms manufacturer is a corrupt and inefficient government sector that has neither the expertise to develop top-notch weapons nor the wherewithal to make them in abundance, said Manoj Joshi, a fellow at the Observer Research Foundation, a policy group based in New Delhi.
In one telling example, India could buy fully assembled Russian Sukhoi fighters for about $55 million each, but instead mostly relies on kits that are sent to the government-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, which assembles them at a cost of about $68 million each — nearly a quarter more. In another example, government labs spent billions trying to develop an aircraft engine, only to abandon the effort and buy engines from General Electric for the recently introduced fighter, the Tejas.