Indian and foreign hand in balochistan : Official report in senate

[sanddy]

Allegation shouldn't be made without proof !!!!
If they really feel that there is an indian involment then proof should be made public as India did for 26/11 .

 

[meena24]

so you think the words of these handful of men which would say anything after getting a few thousand from US or india is more authentic than PAk senators and intelligence official.And you have completely rejected the cables of US ambassadors.

Such high tech weapons aint available at the corner of the streets and needs huge money where from baloch rebels getting that money given no resources and business in that area.kashimiri freedom fighters didnt get hold of SAM in decades coz they were not supported by a state and that was an actual home grown movement but the things in balochistan are accurately planed by outsiders who are funding it as well.

Do you see any difference b/w these balochs and talibans.No then why US is against taliban only and sympathizes with balochs and as said by minister there are human rights violations in all parts of PAk
but only the events of Balochistan are highlighted.

If you want more proofs of indian involvement go here

Govt to give proof of US, Indian role in Baloch insurgency | Pakistan Today | Latest news | Breaking news | Pakistan News | World news | Business | Sport and Multimedia

They are Hi-tech weapons, We agree, Pakistan also provided arms to militants in kashmir, B. Raman has one quoted, if we look at those arms quantity, Pakistan can arm 2 of its army division with these arms. Your support to militant network was to such extend! Pakistan has also provided anza MK-II to militants in kashmir.

 

[Supply&Demand]

Its hard to prove in black and white such state sponsored activities.But the psyche of indian establishment that a Pak busy at home will prevent any khalistan and kashmir trouble is the base of all such terror supporting activities of india why else would india have 25 consulates along with pak border only in afghanistan.China having three times the investment of india has only 2.Anyways wikileaks gave an inside look.

WASHINGTON: A cable from US Embassy in Islamabad leaked by whistle-blower website WikiLeaks disclosed that there were enough evidences of Indian involvement in Waziristan and other tribal areas of Pakistan as well as Balochistan.



The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha’s extension in services was termed as a good omen in one such cable and it was added that his further presence on the scene would enhance the agency’s abilities to combat anti-terror war.

An earlier cable ruled out any direct or indirect involvement of ISI in 26/11 under Pasha’s command while Mumbai’s dossier, based on prime accused Ajmal Kasab’s confessional statement was termed funny and “shockingly immature”.

WikiLeaks revealed that a cable sent from a US mission in India termed former Indian Army chief General Deepak Kapoor as an incompetent combat leader and rather a geek.

His war doctrine, suggesting eliminating China and Pakistan in a simultaneous war front was termed as “much far from reality”. Another cable indicates that General Kapoor was dubbed as a general who was least bothered about security challenges to the country but was more concerned about making personal assets and strengthening his own cult in the army. The cable also suggested that a tug-of-war between Kapoor and the current Indian Army chief had divided the Indian Army into two groups.

General Singh has also been described as “Pakistan, China centric”, with an added aggression towards China. The cable mentioned General Singh as an egotist, self-obsessed, petulant and idiosyncratic general, a braggadocio and a show-off, who has been disliked (and barely tolerated) by all his subordinates.

An earlier cable described Indian Army involved in gross human rights violations in Indian-held Kashmir while some Lt Gen HS Panag, the then GOC-in-Chief of the Northern Command of the Indian Army, was equated with General Milosevic of Bosnia with regard to butchering Muslims through war crimes.

The cable urged Washington to secretly divert UN attention towards the genocide of innocent civilians in held Kashmir at the hands of Indian Army and also suggested that US should avoid holding any joint drill with Indian Army until it stops inhuman activities in Kashmir. The cable termed one Lt Col AK Mathur as “devil’s advocate” at Srinagar.

Another cable indicated involvement of top Indian Army leadership in engaging Hindu extremist militants to carry out certain terror operations to keep Indian Muslims on the back foot and to keep pressure on neighbouring Pakistan’s Army and intelligence agencies, particularly the Inter-Services Intelligence.

The cable confirmed the active presence of ISI in India but it refused to confirm any involvement of ISI in any terror incident across India and did confirm intelligence collection by its agents and operatives. Another cable confirmed that there was a nexus of top Indian Army officials and extremist Hindu outfits. This cable suggested that an Indian police officer, a counter-terror specialist with the name of Hemant Karkare, had exposed this nexus to some extent when he arrested a serving colonel of Indian army, Lt Colonel Purohit, for blazing a Pakistan bound train (Samjhota Express).

The cable suggested that Hemant Karkare held a secret meeting with a senior US diplomat in New Delhi during the national day reception of a friendly country and briefed him about the gravity and the growing depth of the nexus between top Indian Army leadership and the militant Hindu fanatic groups. Karkare sought security for him and his family from the said American diplomat as he feared that the army and establishment would eliminate him as he intended to move further to expose the network. He had further briefed the said US diplomat that a former commander-in-chief of the Central Command of the Indian army, Lt Gen PN Hoon, was heading the militancy wing of the Hindu extremists and was getting full tactical, logistic and financial support from senior army officers. The day, Karkare was eliminated in a pre-planned ambush during the Mumbai attacks, a cable sent to the US read “we have lost an important link and a vital evidence”.

Another cable sent to Washington termed Hindutva brotherhood in general and Shiv Sena in particular, as ticking time bombs with regard to militancy and terrorism. It was suggested that fundraisers like Hindu Students Council of America etc should be banned to raise funds as they were generating funds for the Hindu militant outfits under the garb of charity. Another file dubs Hindutva Brotherhood as a far bigger threat to regional and global peace than Taliban, al-Qaeda and LeT and the later three were declared as “peanuts” if equated with Hindutva Brotherhood and Sangh Parivaar and Washington was urged to take up the issue with New Delhi. Another cable expressed grave concern over the Indian government’s ability to handle Naxal insurgency movement as 80 per cent of Indian nuclear and missile facilities were present in the insurgency hit areas of India while the Indian security forces were totally helpless in ensuring the writ of the government in that particular area, known as the “Red Corridor of India”.

Enough evidence of Indian involvement in Balochistan, Waziristan « Pakistanpal’s Blog

lol!!! that quotes ur **** Leaks !!!! get a authentic source!!

 

[third eye]

Strange title.. " Indian & foreign Hand.."

For Pakistan, an " Indian hand ' also ought to be foreign, unless its considered as an indigenous "hand".

 

[meena24]

Some people are wrong if they think Zia's doctrine is applicable only to India or Kashmir.

 

[pk_baloch]

I STARTED TO HATE INDIA MORE THEN BEFORE ......
THESE INDIANS ARE INVOLVED IN BALOCHISTAN ,REHMAN MALIK HAS GIVEN THE PROOFS ,TODAY I WATCHED......I FORGOTthe NAMES OF THE PERSONS WHO ARE INDIANS .....ND LAHORE MEIN BHI INKE MISSION START HO GAYA HE .......

 

[Night_Raven]

A blog ... haha

Enuf said !!!

 

[INDIC]

I STARTED TO HATE INDIA MORE THEN BEFORE ......
THESE INDIANS ARE INVOLVED IN BALOCHISTAN ,REHMAN MALIK HAS GIVEN THE PROOFS ,TODAY I WATCHED......I FORGOTthe NAMES OF THE PERSONS WHO ARE INDIANS .....ND LAHORE MEIN BHI INKE MISSION START HO GAYA HE .......

Rahman Malik ne kab proof diya.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

I STARTED TO HATE INDIA MORE THEN BEFORE ......
THESE INDIANS ARE INVOLVED IN BALOCHISTAN ,REHMAN MALIK HAS GIVEN THE PROOFS ,TODAY I WATCHED......I FORGOTthe NAMES OF THE PERSONS WHO ARE INDIANS .....ND LAHORE MEIN BHI INKE MISSION START HO GAYA HE .......

even if we are doing something ..we are just returning a favour.

 

[doublemaster]

I STARTED TO HATE INDIA MORE THEN BEFORE ......
THESE INDIANS ARE INVOLVED IN BALOCHISTAN ,REHMAN MALIK HAS GIVEN THE PROOFS ,TODAY I WATCHED......I FORGOTthe NAMES OF THE PERSONS WHO ARE INDIANS .....ND LAHORE MEIN BHI INKE MISSION START HO GAYA HE .......

It is possible that they are doing the same thing as you did. When ***** did the same thing (with or without government control) Indians hated them. If you were thinking Kashmir belongs to you, should have fought directly. These proxy wars polluted islams name and made increasingly difficult for Indian muslims to live.

 

[karan.1970]

Rahman Malik ne kab proof diya.

He is waiting for the right time

 

[SamranAli]

its not first time they are presenting report. Question is when you will take action?

 

[Hulk]

Its hard to prove in black and white such state sponsored activities.But the psyche of indian establishment that a Pak busy at home will prevent any khalistan and kashmir trouble is the base of all such terror supporting activities of india why else would india have 25 consulates along with pak border only in afghanistan.China having three times the investment of india has only 2.Anyways wikileaks gave an inside look.

WASHINGTON: A cable from US Embassy in Islamabad leaked by whistle-blower website WikiLeaks disclosed that there were enough evidences of Indian involvement in Waziristan and other tribal areas of Pakistan as well as Balochistan.



The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha’s extension in services was termed as a good omen in one such cable and it was added that his further presence on the scene would enhance the agency’s abilities to combat anti-terror war.

An earlier cable ruled out any direct or indirect involvement of ISI in 26/11 under Pasha’s command while Mumbai’s dossier, based on prime accused Ajmal Kasab’s confessional statement was termed funny and “shockingly immature”.

WikiLeaks revealed that a cable sent from a US mission in India termed former Indian Army chief General Deepak Kapoor as an incompetent combat leader and rather a geek.

His war doctrine, suggesting eliminating China and Pakistan in a simultaneous war front was termed as “much far from reality”. Another cable indicates that General Kapoor was dubbed as a general who was least bothered about security challenges to the country but was more concerned about making personal assets and strengthening his own cult in the army. The cable also suggested that a tug-of-war between Kapoor and the current Indian Army chief had divided the Indian Army into two groups.

General Singh has also been described as “Pakistan, China centric”, with an added aggression towards China. The cable mentioned General Singh as an egotist, self-obsessed, petulant and idiosyncratic general, a braggadocio and a show-off, who has been disliked (and barely tolerated) by all his subordinates.

An earlier cable described Indian Army involved in gross human rights violations in Indian-held Kashmir while some Lt Gen HS Panag, the then GOC-in-Chief of the Northern Command of the Indian Army, was equated with General Milosevic of Bosnia with regard to butchering Muslims through war crimes.

The cable urged Washington to secretly divert UN attention towards the genocide of innocent civilians in held Kashmir at the hands of Indian Army and also suggested that US should avoid holding any joint drill with Indian Army until it stops inhuman activities in Kashmir. The cable termed one Lt Col AK Mathur as “devil’s advocate” at Srinagar.

Another cable indicated involvement of top Indian Army leadership in engaging Hindu extremist militants to carry out certain terror operations to keep Indian Muslims on the back foot and to keep pressure on neighbouring Pakistan’s Army and intelligence agencies, particularly the Inter-Services Intelligence.

The cable confirmed the active presence of ISI in India but it refused to confirm any involvement of ISI in any terror incident across India and did confirm intelligence collection by its agents and operatives. Another cable confirmed that there was a nexus of top Indian Army officials and extremist Hindu outfits. This cable suggested that an Indian police officer, a counter-terror specialist with the name of Hemant Karkare, had exposed this nexus to some extent when he arrested a serving colonel of Indian army, Lt Colonel Purohit, for blazing a Pakistan bound train (Samjhota Express).

The cable suggested that Hemant Karkare held a secret meeting with a senior US diplomat in New Delhi during the national day reception of a friendly country and briefed him about the gravity and the growing depth of the nexus between top Indian Army leadership and the militant Hindu fanatic groups. Karkare sought security for him and his family from the said American diplomat as he feared that the army and establishment would eliminate him as he intended to move further to expose the network. He had further briefed the said US diplomat that a former commander-in-chief of the Central Command of the Indian army, Lt Gen PN Hoon, was heading the militancy wing of the Hindu extremists and was getting full tactical, logistic and financial support from senior army officers. The day, Karkare was eliminated in a pre-planned ambush during the Mumbai attacks, a cable sent to the US read “we have lost an important link and a vital evidence”.

Another cable sent to Washington termed Hindutva brotherhood in general and Shiv Sena in particular, as ticking time bombs with regard to militancy and terrorism. It was suggested that fundraisers like Hindu Students Council of America etc should be banned to raise funds as they were generating funds for the Hindu militant outfits under the garb of charity. Another file dubs Hindutva Brotherhood as a far bigger threat to regional and global peace than Taliban, al-Qaeda and LeT and the later three were declared as “peanuts” if equated with Hindutva Brotherhood and Sangh Parivaar and Washington was urged to take up the issue with New Delhi. Another cable expressed grave concern over the Indian government’s ability to handle Naxal insurgency movement as 80 per cent of Indian nuclear and missile facilities were present in the insurgency hit areas of India while the Indian security forces were totally helpless in ensuring the writ of the government in that particular area, known as the “Red Corridor of India”.

Enough evidence of Indian involvement in Balochistan, Waziristan « Pakistanpal’s Blog

Its not Wiki Leaks but Faki Leaks, we know fully the fake cables you published.

 

[Hulk]

He is waiting for the right time

Somehow his clock does not have time he is looking. They are successfully fooling gullible people.

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

Intelligence Agencies Doing There Job, ISI is No Saint.
No proof against India , Go cry me a river

I STARTED TO HATE INDIA MORE THEN BEFORE ......
THESE INDIANS ARE INVOLVED IN BALOCHISTAN ,REHMAN MALIK HAS GIVEN THE PROOFS ,TODAY I WATCHED......I FORGOTthe NAMES OF THE PERSONS WHO ARE INDIANS .....ND LAHORE MEIN BHI INKE MISSION START HO GAYA HE .......

Good To Know, Any Proof ?