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Depends on the originally negotiated commercial contractual conditions. In MAP transfers, there is no latitude.
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Depends on the originally negotiated commercial contractual conditions. In MAP transfers, there is no latitude.
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IAF inducts 'Super Hercules' transport aircraft
TNN, Feb 6, 2011, 02.58am IST
NEW DELHI: Even as India on Saturday formally inducted the first of the six C-130J "Super Hercules'' tactical airlift aircraft ordered from US in a $1.2 billion contract, New Delhi and Washington are now on the verge of inking their biggest-ever defence deal till now.
Defence minister A K Antony on Saturday said the deal for 10 C-17 Globemaster-III giant strategic airlift aircraft -- estimated to be around $4.1 billion -- was in the "final stages'' now.
"We plan to substantially increase IAF's transport and airlift fleet, with all kinds of planes. The C-130Js will help IAF to maintain its qualitative edge and enhance its war fighting capabilities,'' said Antony, after formally inducting the first aircraft at the Hindon airbase on the outskirts of New Delhi.
As reported by TOI earlier, India may well order another six C-17s after the first 10. Similarly, there is a plan to order another six C-130Js after the first six are received by IAF's newly-raised 77 `Veiled Vipers' Squadron at Hindon before this year ends. "We are not satisfied with just six,'' said Antony.
The rugged C-130Js and C-17s can even land at small forward airbases on semi-prepared runways, which will be crucial for India to counter China's massive build-up of military infrastructure all along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control, which includes new airfields in Tibet.
The latest version of Hercules with four powerful engines and greater payload-carrying capacity, the C-130Js have been customised for "special and covert operations''.
"These fantastic new machines will boost our capabilities to undertake combat missions...There are the most potent and versatile aircraft in their category,'' said IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik.
At present, IAF has just a dozen Russian-origin IL-76 `Gajraj' aircraft, with its medium-lift fleet comprising around 75 ageing Russian AN-32 aircraft. The induction of C-130Js and the much-bigger C-17s will bolster India's capability to swiftly transport combat-ready soldiers and supplies to forward areas on the western and eastern fronts.
The C-17s, for instance, are capable of carrying a payload of 164,900 pounds after taking off from a mere 7,000-feet airstrip. These four-engine aircraft can transport tanks and combat ready troops over 2,400 nautical miles.
"With a motto of `Kill with Stealth', the C-130Js will be able to undertake quick deployment of special forces in all-weather conditions, including airdrops and landings on unprepared or semi-prepared surfaces even in complete darkness,'' said an officer.
US ambassador Timothy J Roemer, in turn, said, "The sale of the C-130Js to IAF on-time and on-budget is exactly the type of win-win situation President Obama talked about during his historic visit to India last November...A strong defence relationship is a key component of the US-India strategic partnership.''
Source: Times of India
TNN, Feb 6, 2011, 02.58am IST
NEW DELHI: Even as India on Saturday formally inducted the first of the six C-130J "Super Hercules'' tactical airlift aircraft ordered from US in a $1.2 billion contract, New Delhi and Washington are now on the verge of inking their biggest-ever defence deal till now.
Defence minister A K Antony on Saturday said the deal for 10 C-17 Globemaster-III giant strategic airlift aircraft -- estimated to be around $4.1 billion -- was in the "final stages'' now.
"We plan to substantially increase IAF's transport and airlift fleet, with all kinds of planes. The C-130Js will help IAF to maintain its qualitative edge and enhance its war fighting capabilities,'' said Antony, after formally inducting the first aircraft at the Hindon airbase on the outskirts of New Delhi.
As reported by TOI earlier, India may well order another six C-17s after the first 10. Similarly, there is a plan to order another six C-130Js after the first six are received by IAF's newly-raised 77 `Veiled Vipers' Squadron at Hindon before this year ends. "We are not satisfied with just six,'' said Antony.
The rugged C-130Js and C-17s can even land at small forward airbases on semi-prepared runways, which will be crucial for India to counter China's massive build-up of military infrastructure all along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control, which includes new airfields in Tibet.
The latest version of Hercules with four powerful engines and greater payload-carrying capacity, the C-130Js have been customised for "special and covert operations''.
"These fantastic new machines will boost our capabilities to undertake combat missions...There are the most potent and versatile aircraft in their category,'' said IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik.
At present, IAF has just a dozen Russian-origin IL-76 `Gajraj' aircraft, with its medium-lift fleet comprising around 75 ageing Russian AN-32 aircraft. The induction of C-130Js and the much-bigger C-17s will bolster India's capability to swiftly transport combat-ready soldiers and supplies to forward areas on the western and eastern fronts.
The C-17s, for instance, are capable of carrying a payload of 164,900 pounds after taking off from a mere 7,000-feet airstrip. These four-engine aircraft can transport tanks and combat ready troops over 2,400 nautical miles.
"With a motto of `Kill with Stealth', the C-130Js will be able to undertake quick deployment of special forces in all-weather conditions, including airdrops and landings on unprepared or semi-prepared surfaces even in complete darkness,'' said an officer.
US ambassador Timothy J Roemer, in turn, said, "The sale of the C-130Js to IAF on-time and on-budget is exactly the type of win-win situation President Obama talked about during his historic visit to India last November...A strong defence relationship is a key component of the US-India strategic partnership.''
Source: Times of India
C-130J reaches Hindon, induction into IAF today
5 Feb, 2011, 01.47AM IST,IANS
NEW DELHI: A C-130J transport aircraft, India's first acquisition from the US through the foreign military sales route in decades, arrived at its new home at Hindon airbase outside the Capital ahead of its formal induction into the Indian Air Force (IAF) on Saturday.
However, the C-130J Super Hercules airlifter that IAF will operate for Indian armed forces' special operations, will not be the same as the US Air Force's (USAF) in view of India not having signed a crucial communication interoperability agreement with the US, an official of Lockheed Martin , the aircraft manufacturer, said here Friday.
The C-130J, expected to enhance Indian special forces' reach for their specialist operations behind enemy lines, was flown by an IAF crew into India from Lockheed Martin's manufacturing facility at Marietta in Georgia, US.
India had signed a $950 million contract for six C-130Js in 2008. The other five aircraft in this current order are scheduled for delivery to the IAF one after the other by the end of this year. "The first C-130J for the IAF has arrived at its home base last (Thursday) evening after flying through Canada, Europe and West Asia," Lockheed Martin's vice president (business development) Orville Prins said here. "It was very clear that Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) not being signed will affect certain things," Prins said.
Source: Economic Times
5 Feb, 2011, 01.47AM IST,IANS
NEW DELHI: A C-130J transport aircraft, India's first acquisition from the US through the foreign military sales route in decades, arrived at its new home at Hindon airbase outside the Capital ahead of its formal induction into the Indian Air Force (IAF) on Saturday.
However, the C-130J Super Hercules airlifter that IAF will operate for Indian armed forces' special operations, will not be the same as the US Air Force's (USAF) in view of India not having signed a crucial communication interoperability agreement with the US, an official of Lockheed Martin , the aircraft manufacturer, said here Friday.
The C-130J, expected to enhance Indian special forces' reach for their specialist operations behind enemy lines, was flown by an IAF crew into India from Lockheed Martin's manufacturing facility at Marietta in Georgia, US.
India had signed a $950 million contract for six C-130Js in 2008. The other five aircraft in this current order are scheduled for delivery to the IAF one after the other by the end of this year. "The first C-130J for the IAF has arrived at its home base last (Thursday) evening after flying through Canada, Europe and West Asia," Lockheed Martin's vice president (business development) Orville Prins said here. "It was very clear that Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) not being signed will affect certain things," Prins said.
Source: Economic Times
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Hi Kinetic, this one:
Yeah i was aware of one/two Boeing used for VVIP transport I was talking about military aircrafts.
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This will follow in all future aircrafts bought from abroad... So India will never sign CISMOA and we need Indian communication system onboard because communication secrecy and interoperability is crucial. And US personals in any military bases are out of question.
"As with the P-8I, the navy has specified in the RFI that certain pieces of equipment must be indigenous, like Identification Friend or Foe Interrogator with Secure Mode, MSS Terminal, BFE, Datalink and Speech Secrecy Equipment and vendors must indicate their commitment to integrate this equipment into the aircraft."
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That's what it is, because it is in IAF service and I wonder how that deal worked withought CISOMA, because it should have sophisticated com systems as well.
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The Boeing 737 BBJs of the AHQ Commn. Sqdn. were not covered by CISMOA. But these aircraft along with the EMB-135 Legacy jets were covered by a supplementary agreement with the USA for a complete suite of ECM and protection which was installed. The AW-139 choppers being acquired later are also to be fitted under that agreement.
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Why does EMB145 and AW-139 choppers falls under this category?? Both the products are not of US. Please clear this confusion.
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India to award USD 11 bn M-MRCA deal within next one month
India to award USD 11 bn M-MRCA deal within next one month - The Economic Times
BANGALORE: India will pick up by next one month the vendor for its biggest-ever military fighter deal for purchasing 126 Medium-Multirole Combat Aircraft at a cost of USD 11 billion, the contract of which is expected to be finalised by September.
Addressing a press conference here, Air Chief Marshal P V Naik said all the problems related to the offsets proposals have been sorted out and if the bid losers "don't put spokes in the wheel," the deal would be finalised in the given timeframe.
"We hope to start the contract negotiations in the next two to four weeks and the deal may be signed by September," he said.
The IAF had submitted its field evaluation trial report on July 30 last year and the Defence Ministry has been going through it to determine the aircraft meeting IAF's requirement.
Six aircraft including Russian MiG-35, American F-16 and F/A-18, Swedish Gripen, European Eurofighter and French Rafale are in the race for the multi-billion dollar contract.
Naik said "unless dissatisfied vendors put spokes", which may involve getting clearances from the Central Vigilance Commission or legal proceedings, the deal would be finalised by September -- in the next fiscal.
The IAF is planning to induct these aircraft to augment its number and replace the Russian-origin MiG series aircraft, which are on their way out of the service.
Complementing the IAF team involved in the evaluation trials, Naik said the process was a "complicated" one as each aircraft had to be tested for 600 different parameters by the IAF.
Under the procurement process, the Defence Ministry negotiates with the company offering the lowest price for the equipment required by respective services.
Asked about the procurement of new cluster bombs from American firm Textron, he said that would be first put on the Jaguar deep penetration fighters by the IAF.
India to award USD 11 bn M-MRCA deal within next one month - The Economic Times
BANGALORE: India will pick up by next one month the vendor for its biggest-ever military fighter deal for purchasing 126 Medium-Multirole Combat Aircraft at a cost of USD 11 billion, the contract of which is expected to be finalised by September.
Addressing a press conference here, Air Chief Marshal P V Naik said all the problems related to the offsets proposals have been sorted out and if the bid losers "don't put spokes in the wheel," the deal would be finalised in the given timeframe.
"We hope to start the contract negotiations in the next two to four weeks and the deal may be signed by September," he said.
The IAF had submitted its field evaluation trial report on July 30 last year and the Defence Ministry has been going through it to determine the aircraft meeting IAF's requirement.
Six aircraft including Russian MiG-35, American F-16 and F/A-18, Swedish Gripen, European Eurofighter and French Rafale are in the race for the multi-billion dollar contract.
Naik said "unless dissatisfied vendors put spokes", which may involve getting clearances from the Central Vigilance Commission or legal proceedings, the deal would be finalised by September -- in the next fiscal.
The IAF is planning to induct these aircraft to augment its number and replace the Russian-origin MiG series aircraft, which are on their way out of the service.
Complementing the IAF team involved in the evaluation trials, Naik said the process was a "complicated" one as each aircraft had to be tested for 600 different parameters by the IAF.
Under the procurement process, the Defence Ministry negotiates with the company offering the lowest price for the equipment required by respective services.
Asked about the procurement of new cluster bombs from American firm Textron, he said that would be first put on the Jaguar deep penetration fighters by the IAF.
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Those aircraft classify as non-combat aircraft. Most importantly, CISMOA covers US administered equipment systems; which these aircraft do not have. They are independent of US control.
