Indian Air Base at Pathankot under attack by gunmen.

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

"Havilder Jagdish of the DSC chased a terrorist and grappled with him bare-handed, killing him before he died," Air Commodore J S Dhamoon, who commands the base, said.

Why a 'chase and grapple bare-handed'? Was the Havildar completely out of ammo and without even a combat knife?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Why a 'chase and grapple bare-handed'? Was the Havildar completely out of ammo and without even a combat knife?

The terrorists attacked the DSC's mess, he was either preparing a meal or resting when attacked so no weapons to hand.

 

[Abingdonboy]

A new pattern is discernible in recent attacks. Terrorists are being sent in to Punjab to see if the state has become soft and penetrable. In the bargain, there is not even a pretence that this is about Kashmir anymore. It is about India, make no mistake.



Why show the photo of a grieving widow on our front pages? This is exactly what Pakistan wants to see and celebrate – a grieving helpless nation. Why not show a commando in action?

Similarly, this universal desire to rush to interview families, widows and parents of the dead remains inexplicable. We would honour the dead better by letting the families grieve in privacy.

We invite their so-called experts on our prime time television shows, probably pay them handsomely and thus give them lucrative airtime to bad-mouth us and produce all sorts of alibis. A fine example of self-flagellation. Do we seriously expect them to join us in condemning these attacks?

Our editorials the next morning are very erudite and dispassionate as they advocate the big picture of continuing talks with terrorists. It is perhaps easy to be dispassionate when we do not quite know how it is to sit alone crouched behind a bush on a dark cold winter's night waiting for the unseen terrorist. At least for the present we could have spared a thought for those young men who died for us and put some fire and anger in our editorials.

Apart from the editorials, take the reportage in the press: On January 4, the Times of India referred to the terrorists as fidayeen five times in one report. Have the reporters not been told that terrorists on suicide missions use this term to glorify themselves in the name of Allah while on suicide missions?Why do we want to give them this honour when they are brutal murderers? So is the expression mujahedeen. Let's get it right: They are all terrorists, bar none.

VIKRAM SOOD'S PERSPECTIVES


@PARIKRAMA @Levina @danish_vij @SpArK @MilSpec @Capt.Popeye @Koovie @Echo_419 @Parul @ayesha.a @Roybot @kbd-raaf @Star Wars @ranjeet @Bang Galore @Spectre @IndoUS @jaiind @Bombaywalla @Vauban @nair @AUSTERLITZ @scorpionx @Dandpatta

 

[@nline]

This is called politics not cowardly act....or propaganda...Now even though Pakistan is suffering terrorist strikes every month no one considers it has a victim of terrorism...(Even I consider Pakistan has a birth place of terrorism

Now India is the victim here so it is taking every opportunity to score points against Pakistan and India is definitely winning...

I hope now at least the top brass of Pakistani establishment realise that supporting terrorist is not helping Pakistan in anyway but it is hurting Pakistan as a whole....

Pakistan not supporting to terrorisam nor have any interest to do that. Because Pakistan lost 65.000 lives during WAR ON TERROR. Pakistan suffered a lot than India.
India knows that Pak army is doing a great job in Opration Zarb-e-Azzb. Why we (Indian) let the world see that Pakistan in real are against terrorisam. Thats why RSS, RAW, BJP didnt like that and keep making poor propaganda against Pakistan. Well, India is victim of itself with its own poor propaganda against Pakistan all the time. Because if Pak really wanted or had interest into terror in India. Then India had much worest situation that India looks like today.

One thing is 1000000% sure that lot more "India`s own made" terror attacks to come. And as usual India will blame Pakistan

 

[Abingdonboy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/684333352090910720

https://twitter.com/x/status/684333608232865792

 

[noksss]

No @Levina I am not, I am being realistic. Hostrage rescue is just one of the PARA (SF)'s duties (and a minor one at that), their main focus is on offensive direct action. The NSG's entire being is Hostage Rescue, all of their training, equipment and tactics are centred on this premise, to think that the PARA (SF) (or any other force in India) are better at this one core task of the NSG is being a bit naive.

The PARA (SF) are not supermen, they have an incredibly wide skillset and are excellent at all tasks but the NSG is a very specialised force centred around this task and I know for a fact they have equipment specifically for this role that no other force in India posses.

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Inside The Pathankot Air Base, Hours After The Final Gun Battle


Pathankot: Beside a burnt truck in the motor transport section of the Pathankot Air Station, about a kilometer from the imposing, heavily-guarded main gate, lay a crumpled camouflage jacket. This is where Garud commando Gursewak Singh fell fighting terrorists early on Saturday morning.

Not far from there, a group of about 50 commandos of the elite National Security Guards sat on the ground, their weapons on their laps or beside them. Most had removed their masks and none of them was talking.

Their faces betrayed no emotion, only extreme exhaustion. The three-and-a-half day gun battle to eliminate six terrorists who attacked the base had ended only a few hours before.

About a 100 metres away from the motor transport section is a wall of the sprawling air base. In some places it is as high as 10 feet and has concertina wires, a type of barbed wire. In other places, only wiring marks the boundary of the airfield.

Very close to the transport section is a row of neatly painted houses with manicured gardens. These are residential quarters for airmen and their families. On the road in front, chain tracks from armoured vehicles were still fresh. They led to the technical area, where, in an enclosure of about 15 feet by 20 feet neatly marked out by tape, lay the bodies of five terrorists. They were all in green military fatigues.

"There are some dugouts here, part of old structures and had very thick vegetation. Perhaps that is why the terrorists holed up here," a Garud commando in full battle gear, explained to reporters. "We used bulldozers to remove the vegetation as we moved slowly first to corner and then eliminate them."

It was here that Lieutenant Colonel Niranjan Kumar was killed and his buddy seriously injured. A note circulated in the highest levels of the government says, "Lt Col Niranjan died accidentally when handling the dead body of a terrorist."

Most buildings in this part of the base were evacuated. "Had the terrorists got into residential quarters, we could have been looking at a hostage situation and casualties could have been huge," the Garud commando said.

When this reporter asked his name, he smiled and said, "operations are on, we don't wear name or rank tags."

Three blocks of living quarters separate an open ground and the Defence Security Corps (DSC) mess. Four soldiers were killed here when terrorists opened fire. "Havilder Jagdish of the DSC chased a terrorist and grappled with him bare-handed, killing him before he died," Air Commodore J S Dhamoon, who commands the base, said.

Diagonally opposite the DAC mess is the battered two-storied residential building where the last gun battle was fought. A portion of the building came down in the exchange of fire and multiple explosions. Burnt tree parts indicate the intensity of the operation to eliminate the last two terrorists; four had been killed on Saturday.

Firing had suddenly started from the first floor of this building on Monday. Nearly 24 hours later, hundreds of commandos and sniffer dogs were still checking the area for improvised explosive devices and booby traps.

The only question which puzzles me is why they have blown up the whole building for eliminating the last 2 terrorist instead of shooting them or capturing them alive?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

A new pattern is discernible in recent attacks. Terrorists are being sent in to Punjab to see if the state has become soft and penetrable. In the bargain, there is not even a pretence that this is about Kashmir anymore. It is about India, make no mistake.



Why show the photo of a grieving widow on our front pages? This is exactly what Pakistan wants to see and celebrate – a grieving helpless nation. Why not show a commando in action?

Similarly, this universal desire to rush to interview families, widows and parents of the dead remains inexplicable. We would honour the dead better by letting the families grieve in privacy.

We invite their so-called experts on our prime time television shows, probably pay them handsomely and thus give them lucrative airtime to bad-mouth us and produce all sorts of alibis. A fine example of self-flagellation. Do we seriously expect them to join us in condemning these attacks?

Our editorials the next morning are very erudite and dispassionate as they advocate the big picture of continuing talks with terrorists. It is perhaps easy to be dispassionate when we do not quite know how it is to sit alone crouched behind a bush on a dark cold winter's night waiting for the unseen terrorist. At least for the present we could have spared a thought for those young men who died for us and put some fire and anger in our editorials.

Apart from the editorials, take the reportage in the press: On January 4, the Times of India referred to the terrorists as fidayeen five times in one report. Have the reporters not been told that terrorists on suicide missions use this term to glorify themselves in the name of Allah while on suicide missions?Why do we want to give them this honour when they are brutal murderers? So is the expression mujahedeen. Let's get it right: They are all terrorists, bar none.

VIKRAM SOOD'S PERSPECTIVES


@PARIKRAMA @Levina @danish_vij @SpArK @MilSpec @Capt.Popeye @Koovie @Echo_419 @Parul @ayesha.a @Roybot @kbd-raaf @Star Wars @ranjeet @Bang Galore @Spectre @IndoUS @jaiind @Bombaywalla @Vauban @nair @AUSTERLITZ @scorpionx @Dandpatta

The writer is correct in most points except the one part of talks.. Talks are needed bcz further marginalising the GOP PM NS would be counter productive. See the other parties in control of Pakistan like PA wont heed to Indian PM NaMo wishes even one bit.. Army is army.. it thinks on its own logic not about gestures, bonhomie and creating atmosphere type of jargons which are more used in a geo political play. AT least when we interact with PM NS there is a chance that such small display of moving fwd helps the greater cause of providing comfort and momentum.

About Indian Reports i agree we do glorify death, pain and suffering as that seems to be the modus operandi for sales and TRPs. the responsibility of the media being nationalistic is at times counter poductive. The bashing and the way they did autopsy of the Pathankot ops was sadly regrettable.

IF you look from terrorists perspective they have successfully did a much bigger objective of showing their capabilities, iNdia's in capabilities and how their actions wont ever get punished and how Indian masses are feeling the "fear"

Not bcz of their act alone but rather a combination of other factors including media also playing by their side rather than our own..

 

[Indika]

The writer is correct in most points except the one part of talks.. Talks are needed bcz further marginalising the GOP PM NS would be counter productive. See the other parties in control of Pakistan like PA wont heed to Indian PM NaMo wishes even one bit.. Army is army.. it thinks on its own logic not about gestures, bonhomie and creating atmosphere type of jargons which are more used in a geo political play. AT least when we interact with PM NS there is a chance that such small display of moving fwd helps the greater cause of providing comfort and momentum.

Disagree with that. Musharaf planned kargil when he was army chief and then got involved in talks later. As far as India is concerned , we are better off dealing with dictator running the country than a power less PM. In fact a PM gives a good facade to continue indulging in shenanigans without the shred of responsibility/accountability. Instead of Nawaz sharif if it was army running the country explicitly then they certainly would fear repercussions. An dictator at the helm would put India on higher moral ground and provide justification to international community for any strikes atleast on border outposts.

 

[rockstarIN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/684333352090910720

https://twitter.com/x/status/684333608232865792

@Abingdonboy which gun NSG is holding?

Since I'm sure they were not using MP5 there.

 

[Assange]

Pakistan not supporting to terrorisam nor have any interest to do that. Because Pakistan lost 65.000 lives during WAR ON TERROR. Pakistan suffered a lot than India.
India knows that Pak army is doing a great job in Opration Zarb-e-Azzb. Why we (Indian) let the world see that Pakistan in real are against terrorisam. Thats why RSS, RAW, BJP didnt like that and keep making poor propaganda against Pakistan. Well, India is victim of itself with its own poor propaganda against Pakistan all the time. Because if Pak really wanted or had interest into terror in India. Then India had much worest situation that India looks like today.

One thing is 1000000% sure that lot more "India`s own made" terror attacks to come. And as usual India will blame Pakistan

May be you should introspect Pakistan's past record....No country in the world has support Jihadi groups like Pakistan...Didn't you guys form Taliban ???? Didn't you guys form Kashmir focused Jihadi groups??? Do a little bit of Googling then you will know it...

Pakistan is a victim of its own policy...India is merging as a winner when it comes to propaganda war...may be you should see the reality first...Just travel around the world and ask about Pakistan the first thing that will come to their mind is terrorism...

Don't blame RSS, BJP and Raw etc etc...they are Indian entities they will definitely make propaganda against Pakistan...

Unless and until Pakistan stops proxy war or supporting proxies it will be biggest looser in the international arena...

 

[Abingdonboy]

@Abingdonboy which gun NSG is holding?

Since I'm sure they were not using MP5 there.

Operator on the far left has a SIG-552, middle has a MP-5 and on the left a M98B sniper rifle. These are part of the sniper team.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The Pathankot attack has given India a unique handle to slam us with. For now facts seem to be on Delhi’s side. So is the collective voice of the international community whose heavy hitters, like the US, China, Russia and Europe want Islamabad to cooperate with its aggrieved neighbour and bring to justice those behind the audacious and suicidal episode.


Government and state officials in Islamabad reluctantly admit that some members of the group might have gone inside India from Pakistan to cause what has to be the most embarrassing recent event in our ties with India. If the world weren’t consumed by the grim crisis in the Middle East and the Moscow-Washington cold war, our embarrassment would have been much larger than what we are facing now. But even then what we have on our face is bad enough – and we got to deal with it.

Pathankot lessons | Opinion | thenews.com.pk




@PARIKRAMA @Levina @danish_vij @SpArK @MilSpec @Capt.Popeye @Koovie @Echo_419 @Parul @ayesha.a @Roybot @kbd-raaf @Star Wars @ranjeet @Bang Galore @Spectre @IndoUS @jaiind @Bombaywalla @Vauban @nair @AUSTERLITZ @scorpionx @Dandpatta @Syed.Ali.Haider @noksss @AgNoStiC MuSliM @arp2041

 

[Jason bourne]

3 JeM man arrested in connection with pathankot attack...

 

[@nline]

May be you should introspect Pakistan's past record....No country in the world has support Jihadi groups like Pakistan...Didn't you guys form Taliban ???? Didn't you guys form Kashmir focused Jihadi groups??? Do a little bit of Googling then you will know it...

Pakistan is a victim of its own policy...India is merging as a winner when it comes to propaganda war...may be you should see the reality first...Just travel around the world and ask about Pakistan the first thing that will come to their mind is terrorism...

Don't blame RSS, BJP and Raw etc etc...they are Indian entities they will definitely make propaganda against Pakistan...

Unless and until Pakistan stops proxy war or supporting proxies it will be biggest looser in the international arena...

These people you call today "Taliban" once were HERO for you all called "Mujaheedin" after they fought war against former U.S.S.R. When you talk about "Jihaad" you even dont understand what does it mean.

10.00.000 indian army is in Indian Occupied Jammu & Kashmir since mid 1980s. More than 250.000 Innocent Kahsmiri men were killed by World 3rd largest army from India. 200.000 (Kasmiri Young Boys) were captured by Indian army and NEVER return back to their home! Lots of rape vicoms ladies from Indian army. Now you will defend all that Shame on you. Shame on you . . . . . !

RSS & RAW are India`s biggest Number 1 Terrorist Organization! They are fully active to destabilize Republic Pakistan with the support of Afghani/Afghanistan. Why India got 15 or 16 Genral Consular in Afghanistan????? It is to destabilize Pakistan via Afghanistan!

India always cry like little babies that "Mar gya Pakistan, Mar gya Pakistan" Keep cry. Because this is your poor nature. All the terrorist are in India tranned by RSS & RAW and they use them against Pakistan!

When you talk about "International Arenea" Then I can understand that why "International Arena" improve "VISA`S" to Modi while having blood om his hand of 2000 Innocent Muslims in Indian State Gujurat. Because even that time his VISA application were reject to many countries!!! Keep making poor propaganda against Pakistan!

 

[Jason bourne]

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