Indian Air Base at Pathankot under attack by gunmen.

[Maler]

There were reports of heavy smoke ov.............So can't say anything!!!!!

Yes they do if that is taken as an independent question, but the Indians on ANY online thread will rape and kill their own mothers before they can see a single positive about Pakistan. Regardless, the attacks do not seem to be sanctioned by either state's agencies.

Three strike policy is also for senior moderators!!!!!!

 

[Ankit Kumar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/683859748395982849

 

[noksss]

So you are quoting Wikipedia .. Which says 16 hours?

BC .. If the same number of terrorists,armed with syicide vests and heavy weapons had entered iaf base ... Im sure India would have remained constipated for a month rather than 3 (probably will take another 3 days)..

No one knows the no of terrorist except what media is reporting but as per the info there are 2 groups of terrorists, armed with suicide vests have entered iaf base the NSG Causality on IED describes the fact and despite being in heavy number and having suicide vest they haven't done any damage to assets and for you guys some terrorist managed to escape as well.

At least there' everything is fine for now

https://twitter.com/x/status/683857359060381696

Whats written can you explain? and any update on when the ops will be over

 

[Ankit Kumar]

It says everyone is safe now , the attackers were repelled last night. No further info.

https://twitter.com/x/status/683861442639065088

https://twitter.com/x/status/683862350785462273

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Some points by Ex IA/IAF ppl

Major General (retired) Satbir Singh

• How can this operation, he asked, be called a professional operation when the terrorists managed to come 25 km inside near the area where we have vital air assets and seven people were killed in 36 hours and 20 seriously injured.
• "It means our intelligence agencies are not working at all. There is no co-ordination. There is no actionable intelligence,”
• "The responsibility of the IB does not stop after merely issuing alerts. Its responsibility is to ensure that actionable intelligence goes all over.
• And mind you, I am not isolating military when I said it was the failure of all intelligence and executing agencies. The entire system has failed.”

Air Vice Marshal (retired) Kapil Kak

• "You (the government) had specific inputs 24 hours in advance that Punjab is going to be struck, why was security of vital installations was not beefed up?
• You did not coordinate well enough to prevent terrorists from getting inside the airbase.
• You got 24 hours. It takes only six hours to deploy a battalion around the perimeter.
• Had they been deployed in time, the terrorists would have never dared to climb the wall and cross the concertina wire and get inside.
• Had there been action in time, seven lives would have been saved,”
• "Where were the police? They knew the last position. So, the police and decision making at the highest level were below par because they had all the time, security forces to decide to protect the airbase.
• There could have been three-layer security.
• This is a disaster at the strategic level,”

The fact is the IAF and the NSG lost their one officer each. Four DSC guards were apparently gunned down in their mess and one DSC jawan was killed after he killed a terrorist.

@ranjeet :Seems India Today picture was correct. The Ex IAF person also talked about the same mess/langar as depicted in this. Pasting it here again

• AVM Kak Said, "The Pakistan Army or the ISI do not have a hand in this incident. Though it goes against the grains of public opinion in India, but I say it very openly and with firmness. I don't say it in psychological or instinctive terms but in analytical term,”

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Oscar @Levina @deckingraj @Ankit Kumar @others

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Kiya drama hai its 2 days already ?

 

[mpk1988]

It's a complex political situation. It could be a war of tussle between the Civilian govt, Military, ISI and independent terrorist groups. The military backing paved way for civilian talks recently. Raheel sharif also wants to be the one who brought peace and stability to Pakistan. The ISI could have seen this as a threat and also previous strategic partners and terrorist outfits like Jaish, Let etc. Peace may not suit these elements.

It's an intricate power struggle within Pak establishment that would decide whether the peace process may move forward or not. If the civilian govt (Nawaz and Co) and the military (Raheel and Co) find an effective way to deal with this, it would be great. We cannot totally discount rogue elements in these too, like anywhere in the world.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/683864545505349633

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Nope.. But yes we do believe that Indians support terrorism in Pak.



3 days damn.

3 days? Wow it's not even a Mumbai terror attack scale. Kya drama banare hai?

 

[Ankit Kumar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/683865858003828736

https://twitter.com/x/status/683866513233686529

https://twitter.com/x/status/683867384306733057

https://twitter.com/x/status/683867992237584384

 

[PARIKRAMA]

IMHO
The party responsible has chiefly 3 issues

1. It does not want India -Pakistan relationship normalized under any pretense
2. Its not home grown or under any State Agencies control of either country. Especially since as per my understanding it seems Nawaz Sharif, Raheel Sharif and Narendra Modi all are under some mutual geo political pressure (read USA, China, Russia etc) to have a peace engagement. Thus the parties (GOI, GOP, RAW, ISI, PA etc) will not act out of turn and against respective senior management directives.
3. The attackers also tried attacking Indian Consulate in Afghanistan ydy night. Now this opens a new frontier. Someone does not want India Afghanistan relationship also

So logically who could benefit the most from such a attack
1. Fringe elements within respective nations or intelligence agencies? Difficult but if found they know their lives are over as they have gone against their own command.. no false flag ops for sure.

2. Terror elements who want to make a comeback like say HAfiz Saeed or Masood Azhar.. - Possible but desperation seems a bit out of sync. Mr Saeed also likes to take quick accolades and would have announced like we made Indian army suffer in pathankot. The lack of any statement indicates its not his doing. Surely he may be on his way to secured hiding.

3. ISIS? Again they like propaganda and publishing claims.. Not seen

4. Taliban? Pathankot helos were shifted to Afghanistan if i am correct.. was it a revenge attack for that? Does Taliban have enough to come cross Pakistan and execute this mission? A line of thought can be discussed further

5. Kashmiri freedom fighters? Ruled out.. They always wanted India Pakistan talks. They can say IA issues but they dont attack outside J&K. nor to Airbases.. Freedom struggle outside J&K rules them out

Can there be elements who gain a lot if India Pakistan and India Afghanistan basically all 3 are not having a good cordial relations..
Can folks here post some more on this.. Also on Taliban angle..

 

[Zarvan]

#PathankotAttack: Highly trained commandos fail to kill all the terrorists
Sources said the Army launched a final assault to neutralise two terrorists who were still alive and were engaging the security forces by firing shots. Heavy fire exchange took place between the terrorists and the forces till evening.

Manjeet Sehgal
Pathankot, January 4, 2016 | Posted by Bihu Ray | UPDATED 09:39 IST

The battery of commandoes and security forces - which was pressed into service to neutralise the terrorists - who struck Pathankot Air Force station in the wee hours on Saturday - failed to kill all the terrorists even after a 48 hour-long combing and search operation. The Air Force and other security personnel continued the operation throughout Saturday night. Locals said they were scared when the attack helicopters which continuously hovered over the Air Force Station and flashed flood lights on the Air Force Station at midnight. The search and combing operation gained momentum after sunrise.

A grenade blast was heard at 9 am when the bomb disposal squad was busy diffusing the arms. One IED went off when the commandoes were handling the body of a slain terrorist. One senior army officer was killed and four others were Injured in the blast. "Four terrorists have been killed during the operation which is still on and will continue till we are sure that there are no more intruders at the Air Force station. Seven people have been martyred, one Garud, five DSC jawans and one NSG," AOC Pathankot JS Dhamoon said. Sources said the Army launched a final assault to neutralise two terrorists who were still alive and were engaging the security forces by firing shots. Heavy fire exchange took place between the terrorists and the forces till evening.

The commandoes even blew up a portion of the Army canteen where the terrorists took position and attacked the security personnel. The terrorists continued to exchange fire even after the canteen was blown. A thick black smoke cloud appeared from the centre of the station after the building was blown by the commandoes to kill the terrorists.


The National Investigation Agency (NIA), mandated to probe terror cases, will register a case on Monday to probe the conspiracy of Pakistan-based terrorist group, believed to be Jaish-e-Mohammed, behind the strike at the IAF base in Pathankot in Punjab.

A team of NIA was at the spot on Saturday as per the standard operating procedure and on Sunday the Government decided to hand over the case to the NIA after taking concurrence from the Punjab government, official sources said. The mandate of the NIA probe will include entry of the militants into India, killing of a taxi driver Ikagar Singh, kidnapping of Superintendent of Police-rank officer of Punjab Police, who was later released and entry into the IAF campus, the sources said. They said the investigators will also try and ascertain the conspiracy that was hatched on the Pakistani soil by the terrorists and if possible find out the state and non-state actors in that country.

#PathankotAttack: Highly trained commandos fail to kill all the terrorists : Mail Today, News - India Today

 

[PARIKRAMA]

BTW update from Afghanistan

ANI ‏@ANI_news 3m3 minutes ago
Final assault by Afghan forces underway in Afghan city Mazar-i-Sharif.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

@noksss

https://twitter.com/x/status/683868522070413312

 

[Maarkhoor]

Pathankot terror attack: India wants strong action against JeM within 72 hours
New Delhi: The Indian government is likely to raise the issue of the Pathankot terror attack with the Pakistani government on Monday.
As per reports, India is likely to Pakistan to take tough action against terror group Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), which is widely believed to have orchestrated the attack.



As per sources, the Indian side is expecting a response from the Pakistani establishment against JeM within 72 hours.

During today's meeting, India will reportedly press Pakistan to act on the intelligence inputs and the evidence gathered against the terror group.

The Indian side is likely to tell Pakistan in clear terms to raid these groups and wants the military court to act against them. The investigating officials have recovered a note that points to the JeM role in the attack.

The future of the Foreign Secretary level talks now depends on Pakistan's action JeM. India is likely to inform Pakistan that terror and talks can't go further without action on these groups.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi yesterday chaired a high-level meeting with National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Jai Shankar and other top officials to take stock of the Pathankot attack.

External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj also yesterday met two former foreign secretaries and five former envoys to Pakistan as the government sought wider consultation over its policy towards Pakistan in the wake of the terror attack on the Indian Air Force base in Pathankot that claimed 13 lives, including those of seven Indian security personnel.

Sushma Swaraj met Shiv Shankar Menon, former foreign secretary and national security adviser; Shyam Saran, former foreign secretary; Satinder Lambah, former envoy to Pakistan and former special envoy to the prime minister who conducted back channel talks with Pakistan; and four former envoys to Pakistan, T.C.A. Raghavan, Sharad Sabharwal, Satyabrata Pal and G. Parthasarathy.
Pathankot terror attack: India wants strong action against JeM within 72 hours | Zee News




Day 3: Combing operation resumes at Pathankot air base; heavy firing under way