India working to make Bangladesh a desert

[Skies]

Sadly you have wrong idea about greedy India. India is not building fence 150m inside India’s territory, also India cannot do this for its hungry nature.

 

[eastwatch]

That's why I said that "as you (He/East Watch Bhai) suggested". I'm more or less sure that India will not allow BD to make water reserver inside India even by BD's money. Or if they will allow then somehow those reservoirs will not work!!

But his suggestions about inside BD could solve the problems more or less.

I suggest BD to build its own reservoir inside BD border. Think of two small height barrages across the two Meghna channels that sandwich Bhola island. 20m high barrages there and 5 or 6 metre high levies (embankments) along the two sides of this river will make a vast reservoir from Rajshahi to Bhola, and from Rangpur to Aricha.

Now, build sluice gates across all the mouths of contributories and distributories to this river. At the end of rainy season, close all these small gates and the large gates at the Bhola Barrage. It becomes a big water reservoir. Use this water to irrigate the winter crop fields.

Note that it is not possible to take this water directly through canals to all the paddy fields. However, water that is reserved in the Jamuna, Ganges/Padma and Meghna river system will also flow horizontally underground. We will not see it, but it will happen because it is a natural phenomenon.

When this happens, the underground water table throughout the country will rise. It means more water will be available at lower pump-up costs during the crop season.

 

[lhuang]

I hear a lot about India stopping Pakistani waters, never Bangladeshi waters.

Can anyone link me to a neutral, non Indian, non Pakistani, non Bangladeshi source for research?

 

[ramu]

Sadly you have wrong idea about greedy India. India is not building fence 150m inside India’s territory, also India cannot do this for its hungry nature.

If you go on and on without any proof ... you are not making any contribution to this thread. Can you give me links about why you think so. Don't come up with blind generalisation as you are not in a position to understand Indian foreign policy.

 

[Skies]

If you go on and on without any proof ... you are not making any contribution to this thread. Can you give me links about why you think so. Don't come up with blind generalisation as you are not in a position to understand Indian foreign policy.

No one should talk without proof. Look at that posts quoted below. If you do not believe me then ask for detail to them. India and Bangladesh had entered into a Boundary Accord in 1974 which is commonly known as the Mujib-Indira treaty. This bilateral treaty stipulates that no defence works can be built within 150 metres of the no man's land. But India violated that rule in some places and there is the conflict.

We do not have any problem if you build fence in your land but it has come in the news that you have try to build border out side 150 boundary. Stay in within 150 feet and build 5 fence as fer bd concern however if you try to build fence outside than we have problem. Simple.

BD never objected on building fence on Indian side. But we do object if you build it in our land... Genious...

Plus: Border talks begin today

Bangladesh will raise strong objection against the Indian project of fencing within 150 yards of the zero-line, killing of innocent Bangladeshis by the BSF, sheltering of Bangladeshi criminals in India, among other issues, BDR sources said.

 

[ramu]

No one should talk without proof. Look at that posts quoted below. If you do not believe me then ask for detail to them. India and Bangladesh had entered into a Boundary Accord in 1974 which is commonly known as the Mujib-Indira treaty. This bilateral treaty stipulates that no defence works can be built within 150 metres of the no man's land. But India violated that rule in some places and there is the conflict.

Links please ...

 

[Skies]

Bangladesh should get transit to Pakistan, China via India

Bangladesh should get transit to Pakistan, China via India

Muhammad Afsar Ali Farajee

Bangladesh is a very small country having population of 150 million. Though Bangladesh is a poor country yet her physical position is of great importance for many big powers and India. A great debate is going on about the question of providing transit/corridor to India through Bangladesh. The nation is already divided on many issue like whether we are Bangalee or Bangladeshi, trial of Bangladeshi war criminals without trial of Pakistani war criminals, question of spirit of Liberation War and other problems.
I was a principal and lecturer of political science of non-govt Degree College for more than three decades; but I always consider myself to be a student and an observer of different current affairs of Bangladesh and the world. As a citizen my comments are as follows:
The nation should know the difference between transit and corridor. Trade between Nepal and Bangladesh crossing India or between Bhutan and Bangladesh is called transit.
Trade between western portion of India with eastern seven sisters of India using the territory of Bangladesh is never transit but corridor. India is demanding not transit but corridor.
All people are not fools: There may be a group of people of our country who may be fools but all people of Bangladesh are never fools and it is the legal and moral duty of the present Awami League Govt. to disclose total proposal of India in the Jatio Sangsad. The Govt. must also publish a whitepaper very soon. Moha Jote or Mega Alliance led by Sheikh Hasina may have vast majority in the Sangsad but they are not the owners of Bangladesh. We the common people are the actual owners. People will not tolerate any treaty with India or any other country if our very sovereignty and independence are threatened.
The foreign policy of Bangladesh versus the foreign policy of India: Our foreign policy is fully based on the principle of "friendship to all and malice to none"; but in the foreign policy of India there is always a big brotherly attitude. The Govt. should be aware of it.
There are some outstanding irritats between India and Bangladesh which need just, amicable and peaceful solution. These are noted below:
Barbed wire fencing in the border: Electrified barbed wire fencing on the India Bangladesh border is never a solution to smuggling, trans-border trafficking, illegal trade and trespassing. So our Govt. and India have to stop all these practice.
Exchange of enclaves: As per Mujib-Indira Treaty of 1974, exchange of enclaves between India and Bangladesh is a must but the treaty has not yet been implemented. The matter should be expedited as the exchange of enclaves is of great importance to Bangladesh.
Sovereignty over Tin-Bigha corridor: Pakistan was fully sovereign over Tin-Bigha till 1971; as per the above treaty India is supposed to restore sovereignty to Bangladesh. But that has not been implemented.
Demarcation of maritime boundary: There should be just, amicable and judicious solution to maritime boundary between India and Bangladesh through UN or international arbitration.
Sovereignty over South Talpatty: This is a Bangladesh territory so India should disclaim it. Bangladesh may refer the issue to the UN.
Killing by BSF: India has killed several hundred Bangladeshi innocent civilians. This practice must be stopped by India.
Destruction of infrastructure: railway, Road, port and such other infrastructure should be counted.
National security and sovereignty: National security and sovereignty must be counted by Bangladesh
Tradability: Tradability of Bangladesh with India should be minimized.
Demand of Bangladesh goods Indian sever sisters: Bangladesh may incurr loss to these areas
Transit/corridor is a trump card: Bangladesh should demand Transit via India with Pakistan and China and vice versa. Bangladesh should take proper action for it.

The writer is an advocate based at Kaunia, Rangpur.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Bangladesh should get transit to Pakistan, China via India

Bangladesh should get transit to Pakistan, China via India

Muhammad Afsar Ali Farajee

Bangladesh is a very small country having population of 150 million. Though Bangladesh is a poor country yet her physical position is of great importance for many big powers and India. A great debate is going on about the question of providing transit/corridor to India through Bangladesh. The nation is already divided on many issue like whether we are Bangalee or Bangladeshi, trial of Bangladeshi war criminals without trial of Pakistani war criminals, question of spirit of Liberation War and other problems.
I was a principal and lecturer of political science of non-govt Degree College for more than three decades; but I always consider myself to be a student and an observer of different current affairs of Bangladesh and the world. As a citizen my comments are as follows:
The nation should know the difference between transit and corridor. Trade between Nepal and Bangladesh crossing India or between Bhutan and Bangladesh is called transit.
Trade between western portion of India with eastern seven sisters of India using the territory of Bangladesh is never transit but corridor. India is demanding not transit but corridor.
All people are not fools: There may be a group of people of our country who may be fools but all people of Bangladesh are never fools and it is the legal and moral duty of the present Awami League Govt. to disclose total proposal of India in the Jatio Sangsad. The Govt. must also publish a whitepaper very soon. Moha Jote or Mega Alliance led by Sheikh Hasina may have vast majority in the Sangsad but they are not the owners of Bangladesh. We the common people are the actual owners. People will not tolerate any treaty with India or any other country if our very sovereignty and independence are threatened.
The foreign policy of Bangladesh versus the foreign policy of India: Our foreign policy is fully based on the principle of "friendship to all and malice to none"; but in the foreign policy of India there is always a big brotherly attitude. The Govt. should be aware of it.
There are some outstanding irritats between India and Bangladesh which need just, amicable and peaceful solution. These are noted below:
Barbed wire fencing in the border: Electrified barbed wire fencing on the India Bangladesh border is never a solution to smuggling, trans-border trafficking, illegal trade and trespassing. So our Govt. and India have to stop all these practice.
Exchange of enclaves: As per Mujib-Indira Treaty of 1974, exchange of enclaves between India and Bangladesh is a must but the treaty has not yet been implemented. The matter should be expedited as the exchange of enclaves is of great importance to Bangladesh.
Sovereignty over Tin-Bigha corridor: Pakistan was fully sovereign over Tin-Bigha till 1971; as per the above treaty India is supposed to restore sovereignty to Bangladesh. But that has not been implemented.
Demarcation of maritime boundary: There should be just, amicable and judicious solution to maritime boundary between India and Bangladesh through UN or international arbitration.
Sovereignty over South Talpatty: This is a Bangladesh territory so India should disclaim it. Bangladesh may refer the issue to the UN.
Killing by BSF: India has killed several hundred Bangladeshi innocent civilians. This practice must be stopped by India.
Destruction of infrastructure: railway, Road, port and such other infrastructure should be counted.
National security and sovereignty: National security and sovereignty must be counted by Bangladesh
Tradability: Tradability of Bangladesh with India should be minimized.
Demand of Bangladesh goods Indian sever sisters: Bangladesh may incurr loss to these areas
Transit/corridor is a trump card: Bangladesh should demand Transit via India with Pakistan and China and vice versa. Bangladesh should take proper action for it.

The writer is an advocate based at Kaunia, Rangpur.

Well china is building a SUPER SPEED TRAIN service from China , may be BD (East Pakistan) should get that train , that way we will also get on train to our borders ....

Bangladesh - China - Pakistan ... thru the vally !!! May be even all the way to Afghanistan and Iran ...

I suggest China - Banglades - Paskistan should discuss this in detail ...

India is too busy ... planning its world domination it does not cares for nothing else , damn building and weapon buying

 

[indianarmy2020]

i don't know why bangladeshi hate india..india always help bangladesh. and india will give 250 mw electricity to bangladesh in compensation of dam. and india recently give 1 billion dollar to bangladesh as a loan at 1.5 % interest for 20 year.
so i think bangladeshi and indian has no reason to hate each other. and don't forget india give freedom to bangladeshi so why india will try to do something wrong with bangladesh.

 

[Skies]

i don't know why bangladeshi hate india..india always help bangladesh. and india will give 250 mw electricity to bangladesh in compensation of dam. and india recently give 1 billion dollar to bangladesh as a loan at 1.5 % interest for 20 year.
so i think bangladeshi and indian has no reason to hate each other. and don't forget india give freedom to bangladeshi so why india will try to do something wrong with bangladesh.

Mate, you are new here. So have a look to learn about India-BD relationship. BTW, hope we will like India one day!

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/19363-bsf-killing-bangladeshi-civilians.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...ngladesh-doing-overcome-indian-dominance.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/21826-india-working-make-bangladesh-desert.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...-rs-420-000-deport-one-bangladeshi-assam.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...sidyl-industry-destroy-bangladeshi-youth.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...mi-govt-proved-again-they-indian-stooges.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...esh-started-new-begining-election-2008-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/19050-book-review-india-doctrine-1947-2007-a.html


Now look at below:

A UNB report says: At the function, RHEAR, a Turkish company, signed an MoU with its Bangladeshi counterpart DANA to offer US$ 1 billion in soft loan to the Bangladesh government to finance infrastructure projects like flyovers and bridges.
If the government accepts the credit line, RHEAR will donate US$ 5 million to healthcare and education projects in Bangladesh.
BTW, I can not understand

S::: The Daily Independent Bangladesh :.. Internet Edition

Both Turkey and India offered BD 1 billlion US$ but how many times Turkey members said us, lo! we helped BD by 1 billion dollar, lo! we helped BD by 1 billion dollar, lo! we helped BD by 1 billion dollar,lo! we helped BD by 1 billion dollar, But the Indians..................................ufff we dont want loan at high Interest rate from India to build road to transit them.

We know why India give loan, Why India helped 71, why they sell electricity and how is India is!......

 

[ramu]

Mate, you are new here.

We know why India give loan, Why India helped 71, why they sell electricity and how is India is!......

Good to know why you hate us. Blame everyone but yourself. Maybe that will help make BD better.

 

[ramu]

i don't know why bangladeshi hate india..india always help bangladesh. and india will give 250 mw electricity to bangladesh in compensation of dam. and india recently give 1 billion dollar to bangladesh as a loan at 1.5 % interest for 20 year.
so i think bangladeshi and indian has no reason to hate each other. and don't forget india give freedom to bangladeshi so why india will try to do something wrong with bangladesh.

I thought of the same when I joined this forum but have realised lately that the BD members on this forum are a tiny minority and the true picture of BD is very different. BD people are not judgemental but have issues with water sharing and boundary flares b/w the armies. India has issues with illegal immigration. The issues are being sorted one after another. However, rare bread of BD use this forum as a anti frustration tool to bash India and Indian policies to vent out their frustration. Let me tell you that no amount of convincing will change a few of them. Some of them were smart and understood the core issues and also had some valid issues and concerns that were an eye opener. But a lot of others are just gas and have this heard mentality and hate for the sake of hating.

 

[eastwatch]

I hear a lot about India stopping Pakistani waters, never Bangladeshi waters.

Can anyone link me to a neutral, non Indian, non Pakistani, non Bangladeshi source for research?

Out of 54 common rivers between BD and India, India has built quite a few barrages, the number I do not remember. But, the largest barrage is across the Ganges at Farakka. India diverts this precious water in dry season to improve the flow of water in the Haldia Port near Calcutta.

There is another big barrage across the river Teesta. India diverts water unlawfully to deprive us during the dry but crop season. Note that our engineers had also built another barrage downstream to hold water in this river for use during the crop season. But, now there is not enough water there.

There are other small barrages like this, but I do not have the list.

 

[eastwatch]

The River Teesta is full of Water. Click the link below to see the picture. The news says that the farmers are very happy with this availability of water. A trial Teesta Treaty is supposed to be signed between BD and India on March 20. So, people are happy that India finally may yeild to our demand to release 4000 cubic feet per second (cfs). Now, the rate of flow is about 3000 cfs to 3750 cfs.

The Daily Ittefaq - March 17, 2010

 

[Spring Onion]

River linking project of india

by Halima Neyamat

The Government of India is implementing a mega project, National River Linking Project for Inter-basin water transfer. The project will have major impact on the livelihood of people, environment, socio-economic conditions of Bangladesh and will have adverse impact on the every sector. In simple word it will cause a disaster to Bangladesh. Halima Neyamat explains.

'Water' should be looked upon as a social and environmental resource. Freshwater have remained the life-blood for our nation, communities and individuals. The universal concept, without freshwater, nature cannot sustain itself and life, cannot be imagined. In this sense, water as the universal solvent and sustenance of the very fabric of life has always remained an inevitable substance for the survival of the people as well as their socio-economic development. We have already faced serious socio-economic losses and environmental degradations due to the unilateral withdrawal of the waters of the Ganges. Bangladesh and India entered into a 30-year Ganges Water Sharing Treaty in 1996 to share the waters of the Ganges available at Farakka during dry season. In this 30-year long Treaty, India agreed to share the waters of some of the border rivers such as the Teesta, the Dharala, the Dudhkumar, the Manu, the Muhuri, the Khowai and the Gumti, the modalities of which will be determined after negotiation between the two countries. It was expected that the contentious and complex conflicts between Bangladesh and India would be resolved. However, we dissatisfed over the allocation of water, particularly in the dry season: in the event of unexpectedly diminished flow, there is no provision to regulate it, as it had been set out in the previous agreement of 1977.
The Government of India claims that the main idea of the National River Linking Project is to transfer the waters from the areas of surplus traversed by the Himalayan rivers in the north to the areas of deficit in the peninsular south by linking 37 rivers. The main area from where the waters are to be diverted is the Ganga-Brahmaputra-Barak basin, which accounts for 60% of the surface water resources of the country and is also rich in groundwater. However, the rivers that comprise this mega-basin are international watercourses and naturally, international politics as well as international law are bound to be explicitly involved in this undertaking.

It has been roughly estimated that minimum 20% of the total land area of Bangladesh (figure may become far more than this) will be directly affected due to the river linking project. The harmful effects will be on: environmental degradation, availability of both surface and ground water, quality of water, salinity in soil, agriculture, fisheries, industries, environment, flushing of pollutant, supply and sanitation, public health, navigation etc,. It will have adverse impact on every sector.

The transfer of waters from the Himalayans rivers through the implementation of the present River linking Project will seriously aggravate the situation of Bangladesh further more and will cause a massive disaster. We should clearly know and realize that the National River Linking Project is no more in 'proposed' stage; it is already in the implementation level. The Government of India has the Order from the Supreme Court in support of the project and they have to establish these links within the year 2016. So, we should not wait and watch. We should protest in every-level from national to international. Take actions and fight for our right to water. Bangladesh have to handed over its protest to India and strongly opposed it at the highest political level. We have to criticize, that the concept is politically unsound, technically infeasible and very wrong from the viewpoint of international water law and practice. We have to safe us and our future generation from this upcoming disaster.

http://www.meghbarta.org/nws/nw_main_p01b.php?issueId=6&sectionId=18&articleId=500