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India, US close to inking military sharing pact


India and the US are close to inking a pact under which their militaries can refuel ships and aircraft in cashless transactions that are balanced at the end of year, a senior US officer said on Saturday.

Under the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) that is currently with the Cabinet Committee on Security, the two countries can also "borrow" military equipment wherever this is required instead of having to cart it all the way from home, Lt General Jeffrey Kohler, director of the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency, told reporters in the Capital.

The US, which had proposed the pact some four years ago during the previous National Democratic Alliance (NDA) regime, has similar agreements in place with some 65 countries.

In most cases, it is called the Acquisition and Cross Servicing Agreement (ACSA) that was formerly known as the NATO Mutual Support Act. It was enacted to simplify exchanges of logistic support, supplies, and services between the US and other NATO forces. It was amended in 1986, 1992 and 1994 to permit ACSAs with non-NATO countries.

Kohler explained how the agreement works.

"There's an Indian Navy ship in the US that needs refuelling. It does so for free. Sometime during the year, US military aircraft will land in India or our navy vessels will visit your ports and refuel in similar manner. At the end of the year, we balance the books," he said.

"Let's say India is sending troops to country X on a UN peacekeeping mission. You can borrow vehicles and even armoured personnel carriers but not weapons from the assets we might have in the neighbourhood. Here too, we'll balance the books at the end of the year," Kohler added.

Had such an agreement been in force, India could have saved some $1 million in the Indian Navy's acquisition of the troop carrier USS Trenton, now renamed the INS Jalashva.

"Since the LSA was not in place, India had to pay extra for the fuel that we put on board (before handing over the vessel to the Indian Navy last month)," Kohler pointed out.

Kohler, who retires in September, is on his seventh visit to India. While in the Capital, he met Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt, Secretary (Defence Production) KP Singh, Director General (Acquisitions) Sheelbhadra Banerjee, Indian Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta, and Indian Air Force (IAF) vice chief Air Marshal BN Gokhale among others.

Vice Admiral-designate Jeffrey Wieringa, currently deputy assistant secretary of the US navy and director of the international programmes office, will succeed Kohler.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?id=2081b12a-9584-4d49-968e-1a2262950c22
 
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While India has the ambition as well as the potential to be another pole in a multi-polar world, this action is obviously against what it is striving for, reflecting its immaturity and myopia in achieving the strategic grandeur.
 
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gpit, if you have got to reach the top of a 10 level building, and there is an elevator available, why take the stairs ? You can always dump the elevator once its use is finished.
 
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military sharing of resources, that is mostly fuel and logistical support. How does that affect one's capacity as an independent player. It makes sure our ships can use the fuel stations of americans from around the world.
 
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military sharing of resources, that is mostly fuel and logistical support. How does that affect one's capacity as an independent player. It makes sure our ships can use the fuel stations of americans from around the world.

quote from the original post:

"In most cases, it is called the Acquisition and Cross Servicing Agreement (ACSA) that was formerly known as the NATO Mutual Support Act. It was enacted to simplify exchanges of logistic support, supplies, and services between the US and other NATO forces."

quote fron Kaplan:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/challenges/competitors/2005/june05fightchina.htm


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... NATO is ours to lead ...

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And India to follow.

As a follower, you don't have the independence, only the leader enjoys.
 
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We have no problem in fighting China if the need be. If the US is our ally in it, then so be it.
 
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While India has the ambition as well as the potential to be another pole in a multi-polar world, this action is obviously against what it is striving for, reflecting its immaturity and myopia in achieving the strategic grandeur.

Incorrect conclusion from you.

Giving an example of the benefits of ACSA (or LSA), he said Indian fighters and warships on overseas deployment can take fuel from U.S. facilities and not pay for it immediately. Similarly U.S. fighters could also tank up at Indian military bases in a cash-less deal. A book balancing exercise at the end of the year would settle the outstanding amount owed by either side.

Or during U.N. peacekeeping work, Indian troops in need of equipment such as armoured personnel carriers could get them from U.S. troops nearby and pay later.

On his seventh and last visit to India as the Director of the Defence Cooperation Agency Lt. Gen Kohler also said there was no provision for storage of U.S. military supplies at Indian military bases. “There is no provision for storage. It is simply a logistics sharing arrangement. No offensive equipment is given. It is normally things like fuel, trucks, blankets and tents.”
 
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We have no problem in fighting China if the need be. If the US is our ally in it, then so be it.

This is what I called "myopia".

I don't believe the winsdom of Indian strategists only limits them to the mere complacence of "fighting China", instead of more ambitiously "being a pole of the world". If so, it is too bad for India.
 
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Incorrect conclusion from you.

According to the whole agreement, the best India can be treated is like "NATO forces" in a limited sector of logistics.

To all, Americans never give away free lunch, much less free "elevator".
 
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I have showed you what the actual agreement is about, however there are obvious clauses, Why do you think we will give them berth incase they wants to attack china? thats a big no no, nor will US gives us birth incase we want to attack Peaceful Canada will they?

This agreement is to make life simpler for forces in UN where there is a very string Indian contingent. There isnt too much complicacy in this.
 
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When you make a complication out of simple issue to just make an arguement
 
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