I wish I could congratulate you on a well-thought-through train of logic. I can't.
I do not want anyone's congratulations.I just want my fellow debaters to speak freely and to tell me on my face that they think I've been wrong on so and so points.So it's me who should thank you a ton for delivering the same.
In this net that you propose to create, to entangle and eventually blunt the PLAAF offensive, what do you think the MiG 21 could have done?
Not much,in fact I would go as far as to say they would have become nothing other than road kills if faced by something as strong as the PLAAF,given its inability to mount a large enough radar antenna and latest avionics and self protection suits due to its very limited (non existent would probably be a better expression) space in its air frame.But same is not true with Tejas,since it was designed from day one with keeping those upgrades in mind.
What do you think the MiG 27 could have done?
You mean in an aerial warfare??Against PLAAF J10Bs and J 11s??Not a fuckking damn thing!!Again,more road kills.
Are you at all aware of the vastly different roles that the two types had been designed for,
Sure I am.The 21 is a pure interceptor which was designed with shorter delta wings so as to make them able to rise up fast like a rocket and engage the high altitude recon aircraft and strategic bombers,quickly launch their missiles and then turn tails.
The 27 on the other hand was designed as a pure CAS air craft,with the pilot housed into an armored 'tub' and wasn't fitted with any radars.So basically they wouldn't have made any contribution to the IAF's interception missions against intruding PLAAF formations.
or are these just names to scatter around?
Come one sir,I may be an ignorant fool but I ain't that big of a effing ignorant fool!!
Please explain what precisely a short-range light-weight fighter, essentially an interceptor with a limited range, at the opposite with limited armament could have done against Su30 type aircraft.
First of all,I don't believe LCA to be an interceptor,rather it's a light MRCA,with interception being one of its intended roles but not the only one!!It can definitely perform in other roles like CAS and limited air dominance missions(if fitted with all those upgrades I mentioned in my earlier comment) on a local theater.
And coming to your other point,as to what this tiny thing can do against a giant like the Su 30,well,if they are supported by other heavy fighters and ground based air defence systems,then I would say a lot!!Because then the PLAAF elements will have to fight all of them at once,which will hopefully exhaust them and eventually blunt their attacks.And besides,due to the altitude of the PLAAF bases in the TAR,the PLAAF planes can only take off with only about 60-65% of their normal payload,which also negates their advantage to a certain degree.
But yes,if the LCAs are to face the PLAAF J 11s alone,with no AWACS or ground support,then I don't think the former can hold their own for long.
Please do help me to understand why a variable-geometry ground attack fighter would have accomplished against troops well-protected by anti-aircraft missiles of the latest sort at a higher elevation than the ground attack plane's take-off airfield.
Nothing much.But then again,I doubt whether a detachment of Dassault Rafales with all their technological edge would have fared much better against such an well-armed adversary!!And that's the reason I said we would be better off to use the resources to acquire more VLO fighters like FGFA,which will have better chances of surviving against the same.
Is it your contention that making a thick soup of aircraft in the sky would dishearten the PLAAF and that they would then head sadly back to their bases to run their aircraft into the ground?
Yes and not.Yes to the notion,that IAF should built up a sizable force of Tejas MkIIs and upgraded SU 30MKIs along with a setting up a dense network of advanced air defence missiles and guns of different ranges and calibers.
But will it be enough to make the PLAAF to "head sadly back to their bases to run their aircraft into the ground" - FUCKK NO!!But at least it will make this whole thing too god damn costly an affair to them!!And that's all we can hope for the time being.
Making up the numbers in this situation seems quite silly to me,
In my opinion,the number of fighters would be of as much importance as would be the numbers of SAMs deployed on the ground!!Cause if not properly backed by friendly fighters,no ground based air defence network,no matter how much dense or advanced,can not last for long, against an enemy as numerous and as strong and advanced as the PLAAF.But I would like to hear your analysis on this,so can you kindly amplify your statement a bit further??It would be really great to hear your thoughts of how to counter the PLAAF threat,which is a very serious threat given the odds right now.
but no doubt you have convincing arguments to explain why this should be a blow from which the opponent would not recover.
Apnader thekei shikh6i Sir ji!!