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:frown::frown::frown:We should live in Complete Isolation. In tight compartments. It will boost over thinking and will make us socially broadminded.

Only communication shold be throgh PDF and that too violet one where the superior is the one who puts his foot in others mouth.

Only then at Night we will sleep peacefully.

regards:pdf::pdf::pdf:

13 post old, you seem to know lot about PDF, did some put his foot in your mouth? were you Banned?
 
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Yeah India is not fighting a war on terrorism on a scale Pakistan is, Indian army is not attacking or re-taking their own cities back from taliban, they dont have to worry about suicide bomb blasts every other day, they have nothing else to worry about than to progress. So let them be.

Its really become a convinient excuse for the state of Pakistani economy. The rot started much earlier than 2007-8 when you started attacking TTP. Its just that the WOT has brought it under focus..
 
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Its really become a convinient excuse for the state of Pakistani economy. The rot started much earlier than 2007-8 when you started attacking TTP. Its just that the WOT has brought it under focus..

I totaly disagree, the leap india has now is just because of the reasons i stated in my previous post, pre 9/11 compare the rupee exchange rates and you will know.
 
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I totaly disagree, the leap india has now is just because of the reasons i stated in my previous post, pre 9/11 compare the rupee exchange rates and you will know.

jonasad, The leap India has made is because of its economic centric policy and neutral approach and as you talk about Pak's economy is down because of WoT then this is faulty assumptions. India's expense on Army for north eastern region and In Kashmir impacts heavily to economy but we are living with it and moving ahead with faster pace.

WoT has impacted Pak for human lives in terms of Army but if you talk about money/ammo then that comes from US.
 
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Yeah India is not fighting a war on terrorism on a scale Pakistan is, Indian army is not attacking or re-taking their own cities back from taliban, they dont have to worry about suicide bomb blasts every other day, they have nothing else to worry about than to progress. So let them be.

india has its own share of terrorism to tackle - maoists, n.e. insurgencies , militancy in kashmir . so dont say india has nothing else to worry about. still we are progressing . so your argument that wot hinders economic growth is lame.
 
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13 post old, you seem to know lot about PDF, did some put his foot in your mouth? were you Banned?

that was sarcasm. I was just elaborating the mentality here.
In this world where Taiwan can invest in Chaina why we cant work togather.
We just have to take first step then other will automatically follow.
But none of us is even ready to look to each other.
You yourself know how well placed your country was, it would have been South Korea if it has access to vast indian markets. But you want to compete in Chaina or in Turkey and how well you are doing there you know well.
 
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Ziada koosh na ho America ko nahe bakashtay hum tum kis kheet ke moli hoo.. route PAkistan kay andar say bahir say nahe... isliye guzrayga beech may say 10 crore awaam kay beech may say punjab kay raastay woh chorengay tu bacha kucha shayad kuch afghanistan tak pohanch jaye lol@ Indian dream!
 
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Now india could trade with Afganistan by making use of pakistans seaport as well as Pakistans Air-space:yahoo::yahoo:



The Pak-Afghan pact was signed between Pakistan and Afghanistan under pressure from the USA on July 18. Under this pact, Pakistan will provide transit trade between Afghanistan and India through its air space.

Pakistan had denied its land route to India but it agreed to provide air space which may benefit the latter but will cause damage to Pakistan's security as well as its economy.

India has been successful in attaining Pakistani air space for trade with Afghanistan by coaxing the US to put pressure on Pakistan.

Both India and Afghanistan stand to gain while Pakistan is bound to be at a loss in more ways than one.

The government seems to have taken an important decision overnight by approving and signing the deal without consulting the parliament, leave alone the nation. Is this how foreign policy decisions are taken by a democratic government?

What is the difference between a dictator and a democratic government then?

Is there any need for India to negotiate further when it has acquired what it wanted? It never holds discussions over India-held Kashmir which it claims to be its internal issue.

It has been said that Afghanistan would facilitate Pakistan a transit trade route to Central Asian states. Did Pakistan really need a transit route to these countries via Afghanistan when we have China on our north which can easily give us access?

Last but not the least the media stated that Pakistan denies land access to India, but conveniently evaded the news that Pakistan agrees to provide air space to India.

FAHMIDA ABDUL SATTAR
Karachi

DAWN.COM | Letters to the Editor | Implications of Pak-Afghan pact

This is a letter to the editor of newspaper. Not a confirmed news. Letters to editors is the feedback received from the readers. I am sure you know that. :what:
Any other source?
 
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You people along with the Yankees started all this mess and no you are facing the full brunt of your own misdoings. :agree:
Instead of whining and complaining:blah::blah: Deal with it.:azn::azn:
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I thin k you are forgetting india offered their services as well.
What i don't understand is indian contractors are all across the limited border of FATA but never had a once atatcked by terrorists!!!!!!!!!
BTW.... FATA or NW is a small border area and if US or NATO wish they can insulate this small area quite effectively single handidly.
In reality on Pakistan side heavy war is going on and terrorists are moving in and out in large numbers using humvees.
 
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Ziada koosh na ho America ko nahe bakashtay hum tum kis kheet ke moli hoo.. route PAkistan kay andar say bahir say nahe... isliye guzrayga beech may say 10 crore awaam kay beech may say punjab kay raastay woh chorengay tu bacha kucha shayad kuch afghanistan tak pohanch jaye lol@ Indian dream!

Kya karoge Chori, Dakaiti?? Bade afsoos ki baat hai,Kuch Acha to kabhi jindagi mai soocha nahi.
 
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Kya karoge Chori, Dakaiti?? Bade afsoos ki baat hai,Kuch Acha to kabhi jindagi mai soocha nahi.

nahie iske zaroorat nahe parayge pehli baat kay ye pakistan hey doosri baat kay tumnay usmay weapons kay ilawa aur bhejena kya hey udar lol :rofl:
 
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THIS IS ALL FALSE, TRADE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BUT INDIA IS N-O-T GOING TO USE OUR AIRSPACE OR SEAPORTS. AFGHAN GOODS WILL BE DELIVERED TO INDIA BY PAKISTAN BUT NOT VICE VERSA. PAKISTAN IS NOT GOING TO ASSIST INDIA IN SALES TO AFGHANS

THESE INCOMPETENT PAKISTANI REPORTERS NEED TO BE FIRED.

It makes no sense for India to use our seaports or airspace. Think logically people.

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No Indian goods to be allowed to Afghanistan through Pakistan: Kaira

ISLAMABAD, Jul 20 (APP): Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Qamar Zaman Kaira on Tuesday said that under the Pak-Afghan transit trade arrangement, only transport of trade goods from Afghanistan would be allowed and that too up to Wagah border only while no Indian goods would be transported to Afghanistan through this route.While addressing a press conference at the Prime Minister Secretariat here, he said that only a Letter of Understanding has been signed for this purpose so far.

“Confusion is prevailing from the very first day in this regard and reports, editorials and special reports contrary to the facts and against the interests of the country are being published,” said the minister.

“The Letter of Understanding has been signed for one way transit trade facility for Afghan goods up to Wagah border, and not for reverse trade from India. This would be a bilateral agreement under which Pakistan would allow Afghan goods export to India via Wagah border and Kabul will provide transit facility to Pakistani goods to Central Asians States (CARs),” he said.

Kaira said that it was regrettable that despite the fact that even though the government made it very clear right at the outset that the transit facility would only be for Afghan goods, now on the third day of the news, a section of press has carried editorial comments and special reports on the assumption that Indian trade though Pakistan would be against our interests.

To a question, he said that Pakistan Customs would evaluate the Afghan goods at the Torkham border, seal the containers and issue bank bonds which would only be returned after the goods are handed over to India at Wagah border.

He also made it clear that only a letter of understanding in this regard has been signed till now and an MoU would be signed only after approval of the cabinet after which it would become a bilateral agreement, but it has been decided that no Indian goods would be allowed to be imported from India through this route.
Further elaborating, Kaira said under this arrangement, Pakistan would benefit more because in Afghanistan there is no industrial set up, while our goods being exported to CARs by air cargo or by sea route would become more competitive by transit trade through Afghan land route.

He added that Afghanistan is also using Pakistani seas to export goods to India so it is not a new phenomenon.
To a question, the minister said the federal government has the authority to sign bilateral agreement with any country.
However, he said the government has taken into confidence PML-N leader Mian Nawaz Sharif and other stockholders on the issue.
He said that Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani had talked to the Chief of PML-N and discussed various issues including Pakistan-Afghanistan transit trade and Pak-US strategic dialogue.

He said that he himself and Minister for Commerce Makhdoom Amin Fahim had already clarified the issue and even issued a press release to explain the factual situation but even after that the negative comments continued.

While responding to a query over the reservations of transporters, the minister said that the government would take the transporters into confidence on the issue. He opined that by transit trade through Afghanistan and Pakistani transporters would greatly benefit.
Kaira said that Pakistan also desires to enhance its trade with neighboring India but before that it was necessary to settle outstanding issues including Kashmir.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - No Indian goods to be allowed to Afghanistan through Pakistan: Kaira
 
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I agree what you say mate, and dont doubt what you say cause you have presented the source..the reason for my confusion is that the Pak-Afghan pact that you are talking about which was signed on 18th...was decalared after it was signed and there was no such mentioning of India using the air route..if there was any such agreement,this would have been the most important point of discussion in Indian media and most imp point of criticism in pakistani media....

If there was such a declaration, then why just two lines from the editor ?? if it were the lines from the editor,show me the article where it was written, to whom the subscribers or the readers are replying to throu the letters to the editor...the only credibility , the news has that the source is from DAWN, which I belive is like a news from "THE HINDU' which we just cant deny, but we surely have some reasons to raise the doubts.

as I said..we should wait for atleast one more day..if its true indeed..it will be in front of us through different sources as well..and I'll be more than glad to have my doubts rejected.

Well after DAWN NEWS, even Geo news had reported that India would Trade via AIR.
check this out
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/38920-afghan-pak-transit-trade-10.html

The first Post on this page.


So are you Glad that your doubts are on way to be rejected.
:cheers:
 
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